Re: Use of Stackoverflow for Question/Answer forum

2014-12-24 Thread Ted Lemon
On Dec 24, 2014, at 12:52 PM, Paul Morris wrote: > I wonder... Why are there so many different archives of the lilypond mailing > list? Would there be a way to prevent some of them from showing up in > google search results? (e.g. by having them indicate "no index" in > robots.txt) Attracting s

Re: Use of Stackoverflow for Question/Answer forum

2014-12-24 Thread Paul Morris
Ted Lemon wrote > Yeah, so, this is intensely frustrating for anybody who tries to google > for help with lilypond, because there are several dozen archives of the > lilypond mailing list, each slightly different, so that if you do > virtually any google search for help with lilypond, it returns a

Re: Use of Stackoverflow for Question/Answer forum

2014-12-24 Thread Shane Brandes
Not that I have a lot to add on the subject, but it seems like stack overflow type forums are really concerned with providing definitive answers to questions. LilyPond is certainly not a static apparatus. Things are in a constant state of flux, and maybe in most areas minimal at this point, it is s

Re: Use of Stackoverflow for Question/Answer forum

2014-12-24 Thread Rob Torop
This is an interesting discussion. From the point of view of functionality, I agree with the "Stack Overflow" approach. I find it hard to agree that one really can get as much out of the content that's been posted if it's shared in email digest form. Certainly we have many powerful tools at our

Re: Use of Stackoverflow for Question/Answer forum

2014-12-24 Thread Helge Kruse
2014-12-23 23:24 GMT+01:00 Johan Vromans : > > Maybe google 'VPN' ? > > Sorry, don't understand how that helps anbody that is the exclusive club of long lear readers of this list. And VPN wouldn't help when I am off home. (I am one of the humans that save power by switching PCs off when I don't us

Re: Use of Stackoverflow for Question/Answer forum

2014-12-23 Thread Ted Lemon
On Dec 23, 2014, at 5:46 PM, Jim Long wrote: > Use the Google search tip above to search only the archive you > want results from. The beauty of Google Search is that it searches everywhere, not just one place, so it'll return results from mailing lists, stack exchange, random blogs, etc. So

Re: Use of Stackoverflow for Question/Answer forum

2014-12-23 Thread Jim Long
On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 06:58:58PM +0100, Noeck wrote: > Am 22.12.2014 um 22:26 schrieb Garrett Fitzgerald: > > It's actually been discussed on meta - consensus is that people should > > actually come over here for help. :-) > > > > http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/168297/on-which-site-are-

Re: Use of Stackoverflow for Question/Answer forum

2014-12-23 Thread Johan Vromans
On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 21:07:43 +0100 Helge Kruse wrote: > That's true as long I am at home with my PC. When I am visting somebody > and need my folder I am lost. So I have to use google like any nooby. Maybe google 'VPN' ? -- Johan ___ lilypond-user

Re: Use of Stackoverflow for Question/Answer forum

2014-12-23 Thread Helge Kruse
Am 23.12.2014 um 08:23 schrieb Johan Vromans: The list is a 'push' model interaction. SO and other forums are 'pull' - I need to visit them and ask for questions. I'm subscribed to 50+ forums, and 20+ mailing lists. It would take hours just to visit all forums. Browsing the messages from the ma

Re: Use of Stackoverflow for Question/Answer forum

2014-12-23 Thread Noeck
Am 22.12.2014 um 22:26 schrieb Garrett Fitzgerald: > It's actually been discussed on meta - consensus is that people should > actually come over here for help. :-) > > http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/168297/on-which-site-are-lilypond-questions-on-topic ... or here http://osdir.com/ml/lily

Re: Use of Stackoverflow for Question/Answer forum

2014-12-23 Thread Mike Kilmer
To save other ignorant folks like me the trouble: Scores of Beauty is the lilypond blog at http://lilypondblog.org/ Scheme is a programming language used by lilypond: http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/extending/scheme-tutorial I wonder if http://en.wikibooks.org/wi

Re: Use of Stackoverflow for Question/Answer forum

2014-12-23 Thread Ted Lemon
On Dec 23, 2014, at 5:45 AM, Phil Holmes wrote: > Definitive answers are frequently found by learning to use the manuals and > their indices. HAH! :) Believe me, if I hadn't RTFM'd, you'd have had such a barrage of silly questions from me yesterday you would have plotzed. But the manual is

Re: Use of Stackoverflow for Question/Answer forum

2014-12-23 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Ted Lemon" To: "Garrett Fitzgerald" Cc: Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 10:21 PM Subject: Re: Use of Stackoverflow for Question/Answer forum On Dec 22, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Garrett Fitzgerald wrote: It's actually been discussed on

Re: Use of Stackoverflow for Question/Answer forum

2014-12-22 Thread Federico Bruni
2014-12-23 8:23 GMT+01:00 Johan Vromans : > On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 16:52:45 -0600 > "Christopher R. Maden" wrote: > > > Personally, I *like* the mailing list, because I scan the discussion > > going by, even when it’s not currently relevant to me, and often > > something rings a bell later when I ne

Re: Use of Stackoverflow for Question/Answer forum

2014-12-22 Thread Federico Bruni
2014-12-22 23:52 GMT+01:00 Christopher R. Maden : > On 12/22/2014 04:36 PM, Federico Bruni wrote: > > I can understand your frustration. > > I think that LilyPond team's choices are sometimes a bit > > "conservative". > > > > Q&A websites are just way better than a traditional mailing list. > > Pe

Re: Use of Stackoverflow for Question/Answer forum

2014-12-22 Thread Johan Vromans
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 16:52:45 -0600 "Christopher R. Maden" wrote: > Personally, I *like* the mailing list, because I scan the discussion > going by, even when it’s not currently relevant to me, and often > something rings a bell later when I need it. Exactly. The list is a 'push' model interacti

Re: Use of Stackoverflow for Question/Answer forum

2014-12-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
Ted, you wrote Monday, December 22, 2014 10:21 PM > On Dec 22, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Garrett Fitzgerald > wrote: >> It's actually been discussed on meta - consensus is that people should >> actually come over here for help. :-) > > So essentially, when you give this as the answer to the question

Re: Use of Stackoverflow for Question/Answer forum

2014-12-22 Thread Christopher R. Maden
On 12/22/2014 04:36 PM, Federico Bruni wrote: > I can understand your frustration. > I think that LilyPond team's choices are sometimes a bit > "conservative". > > Q&A websites are just way better than a traditional mailing list. > Period. My 2¢: Nothing is stopping anyone from asking and answeri

Re: Use of Stackoverflow for Question/Answer forum

2014-12-22 Thread Federico Bruni
Il 22/dic/2014 23:21 "Ted Lemon" ha scritto: > > On Dec 22, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Garrett Fitzgerald wrote: > > It's actually been discussed on meta - consensus is that people should actually come over here for help. :-) > > Yeah, so, this is intensely frustrating for anybody who tries to google for

Re: Use of Stackoverflow for Question/Answer forum

2014-12-22 Thread Ted Lemon
On Dec 22, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Garrett Fitzgerald wrote: > It's actually been discussed on meta - consensus is that people should > actually come over here for help. :-) Yeah, so, this is intensely frustrating for anybody who tries to google for help with lilypond, because there are several dozen

Re: Use of Stackoverflow for Question/Answer forum

2014-12-22 Thread Garrett Fitzgerald
It's actually been discussed on meta - consensus is that people should actually come over here for help. :-) http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/168297/on-which-site-are-lilypond-questions-on-topic On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Urs Liska wrote: > We've had this discussion a year or so. >

Re: Use of Stackoverflow for Question/Answer forum

2014-12-22 Thread Urs Liska
We've had this discussion a year or so. The main argument against SO was twofold: - only parts of what is discussed here is suitable for SO - our community is too small to be split up between different forums Urs Am 22. Dezember 2014 22:07:56 MEZ, schrieb Mike Kilmer : >Hi and Happy Holidays

Re: Use of Stackoverflow for Question/Answer forum

2014-12-22 Thread Mike Solomon
> On Dec 22, 2014, at 11:14 PM, Rob Torop wrote: > > Mike, I like the idea. The ability to have some formatting is good (e.g. to > highlight code fragments) and being able to search is nice. Of course the key > thing is to have the people who know lilypond really well using it too :-) > (t

Re: Use of Stackoverflow for Question/Answer forum

2014-12-22 Thread Rob Torop
Mike, I like the idea. The ability to have some formatting is good (e.g. to highlight code fragments) and being able to search is nice. Of course the key thing is to have the people who know lilypond really well using it too :-) (that excludes me!) On Mon Dec 22 2014 at 4:08:18 PM Mike Kilmer

Use of Stackoverflow for Question/Answer forum

2014-12-22 Thread Mike Kilmer
Hi and Happy Holidays all. I had posted a few initial lilypond questions on StackOverflow.com and received some good responses. I’ve found S.O. to be a very user-friendly format for coding questions and answers (in terms of ease of posting and reading code/syntax) and am curious that the lilyp