Re: Spacing for s4

2016-12-05 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-12-04 17:50 GMT+01:00 Carl Sorensen : > > > On 12/3/16 7:12 AM, "PMA" wrote: > >> >>With such a simple solution (my using 'r' instead & setting >>rests to transparent), I'm not inclined to pursue the issue. > > I suspect (although I haven't tried it) that using 'r' and setting the > stencil t

Re: Spacing for s4

2016-12-05 Thread PMA
My apologies, Simon. Just now registered your first request. Will reform. On 12/05/2016 03:42 PM, Simon Albrecht wrote: I don’t understand why you keep going off-list with this. Best, Simon ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https:

Re: Spacing for s4

2016-12-05 Thread Simon Albrecht
I don’t understand why you keep going off-list with this. Best, Simon ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Spacing for s4

2016-12-05 Thread Carl Sorensen
In this code, the spacer rest takes up space in the proportional spacing code. (modified from http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/proportional-notation) So I'm not sure what happened to your code. %%% \score { << \new RhythmicStaff { c2 16 16 16 16 \tuplet 5/4 { 16 1

Re: Spacing for s4

2016-12-05 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 05.12.2016 18:58, PMA wrote: On 12/05/2016 11:51 AM, Carl Sorensen wrote: On 12/5/16 8:52 AM, "PMA" wrote: On 12/04/2016 12:40 PM, PMA wrote: Come to think of it, "*spacer rest*" instead actually comes closer -- assuming anyway somewhere a strict definition. P ..."closer", i.e., in de

Re: Spacing for s4

2016-12-04 Thread PMA
On 12/04/2016 11:50 AM, Carl Sorensen wrote: ... Until I reread the manual I had forgotten that spacer rests are really called "invisible rests", which exactly describes what they do. Perhaps we should change the documentation to have most of the text read "invisible rest". Well, to my mind, t

Re: Spacing for s4

2016-12-04 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/3/16 7:12 AM, "PMA" wrote: > >With such a simple solution (my using 'r' instead & setting >rests to transparent), I'm not inclined to pursue the issue. I suspect (although I haven't tried it) that using 'r' and setting the stencil to #f would produce exactly the same output as using s.

Re: Spacing for s4

2016-12-03 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > how did you implement those functions? Below is a snippet that contains the three functions, and an example usage. Hope this helps! Kieren. %% SNIPPET BEGINS \version "2.19.49" \language "english" ignoreH = #(define-music-function (parser location item) (symbol-list-or-music?) #

Re: Spacing for s4

2016-12-03 Thread David F.
On Dec 3, 2016, at 8:19 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Right now, I have the syntactic sugar \ignoreH, \ignoreV, and \ignore (both H > and V) which I put in front of objects when I want to adjust their effect on > spacing — but it would be nice to have a built-in and less verbose way of > doi

Re: Spacing for s4

2016-12-03 Thread PMA
Hear hear! P On 12/03/2016 10:19 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi all, Or perhaps have a distinction between things like { s4 } and { c4\rest } ? I think we should distinguish between “skips” [which take up no space, horizontal or vertical], “spacers” [which take up space, but are invisible],

Re: Spacing for s4

2016-12-03 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, > Or perhaps have a distinction between things like { s4 } and { c4\rest } ? I think we should distinguish between “skips” [which take up no space, horizontal or vertical], “spacers” [which take up space, but are invisible], and visible objects (like rests, notes, etc). My suggestion:

Re: Spacing for s4

2016-12-03 Thread Karlin High
On 12/3/2016 5:06 AM, Simon Albrecht wrote: > I think it would be a valid request to have s-rests take up the > respective space with proportional spacing. Or perhaps have a distinction between things like { s4 } and { c4\rest } ? -- Karlin High Missouri, USA

Re: Spacing for s4

2016-12-03 Thread PMA
On 12/03/2016 06:26 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Simon Albrecht writes: On 03.12.2016 02:36, PMA wrote: The score setup already calls for proportional notation. I think it would be a valid request to have s-rests take up the respective space with proportional spacing. I don't think s rests sh

Re: Spacing for s4

2016-12-03 Thread David Kastrup
Simon Albrecht writes: > On 03.12.2016 02:36, PMA wrote: >> The score setup already calls for proportional >> notation. > > I think it would be a valid request to have s-rests take up the > respective space with proportional spacing. I don't think s rests should mess with the spacing of other no

Re: Spacing for s4

2016-12-03 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 03.12.2016 12:06, Simon Albrecht wrote: On 03.12.2016 02:36, PMA wrote: The score setup already calls for proportional notation. I think it would be a valid request to have s-rests take up the respective space with proportional spacing. P.S. I don’t know any other use cases, though, so I

Re: Spacing for s4

2016-12-03 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 03.12.2016 02:36, PMA wrote: The score setup already calls for proportional notation. I think it would be a valid request to have s-rests take up the respective space with proportional spacing. Would you mind sending a concise request, with a small example, to bug-lilyp...@gnu.org? Best,

Re: Spacing for s4

2016-12-02 Thread PMA
On 12/02/2016 08:36 PM, PMA wrote: On 12/02/2016 07:08 PM, Simon Albrecht wrote: On 02.12.2016 23:39, PMA wrote: Hi All! I notice that the spacer command (e.g., "s4"), though always accounting rightly for the TIME it commandeers (here a quarter-note's worth), does not always insert ACTUAL HORI

Re: Spacing for s4

2016-12-02 Thread PMA
On 12/02/2016 07:08 PM, Simon Albrecht wrote: On 02.12.2016 23:39, PMA wrote: Hi All! I notice that the spacer command (e.g., "s4"), though always accounting rightly for the TIME it commandeers (here a quarter-note's worth), does not always insert ACTUAL HORIZONTAL SPACE in the score. How can

Re: Spacing for s4

2016-12-02 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 02.12.2016 23:39, PMA wrote: Hi All! I notice that the spacer command (e.g., "s4"), though always accounting rightly for the TIME it commandeers (here a quarter-note's worth), does not always insert ACTUAL HORIZONTAL SPACE in the score. How can I ensure that it'll do that too? (I.e., what s