Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet

2015-03-12 Thread Kaj
Hi Joram, Yes, of course, I can say now after your replay and explanation. Why didn't I see this myself? For what you point out, of course I have seen this with hierarchy and different kinds of staff grouping a lot of times when reading the documentation. But I did not realize the consequence

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet

2015-03-11 Thread Noeck
Dear Kaj, you are brave to really dig through all this! That's a good thing. I think I can help you here, too: It is correct (and it works like expected) if you do \override StaffGroup.StaffGrouper.staff-staff-spacing.padding = 30 like I wrote. But only (!) if your grouping context is a StaffGrou

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet

2015-03-11 Thread Kaj
Hi Joram, Time has gone since you helped me to understand the vertical spacing mystery in LilyPond. Well I am not ready yet for the big battle, but a lot has been clear since. And a lot of thanks for your very valuable sheet compiling the different items. But not always I have got things work

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet

2015-02-23 Thread Noeck
Hi Trevor, thanks I missed that paragraph. > See > http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/flexible-vertical-spacing-paper-variables Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/li

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet

2015-02-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
Noeck wrote Sunday, February 22, 2015 9:05 PM > I would also be interested in how the stretchability value is used. > I assumed it would be someting like \vfill in LaTeX, in this case only the > relative value with respect to other spacings would be significant – i.e. the > available extra space

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet

2015-02-22 Thread Noeck
Hi, I would also be interested in how the stretchability value is used. I assumed it would be someting like \vfill in LaTeX, in this case only the relative value with respect to other spacings would be significant – i.e. the available extra space would be shared in proportions of the stretchabilit

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet

2015-02-21 Thread Kaj
Thanks Trevor! So this with stretching demands to be the next thing to put your teeth into. /Kaj Den 2015-02-21 23:15, skrev Trevor Daniels: Kaj wrote Saturday, February 21, 2015 9:10 PM One thing (among others) I still do not understand: why are there three keys describing the distance betwee

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet

2015-02-21 Thread Kaj
Hi Kieren! Thanks for the info. You might be correct in what you suggest. However so far I have not seen any complete description of stretchability. There are some words in the paragraphs about "Structure of flexible vertical spacing alists" (the link I gave in my previous note), but those ar

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet (was: How to increase the distance betweensystems?)

2015-02-21 Thread Trevor Daniels
Kaj wrote Saturday, February 21, 2015 9:10 PM > One thing (among others) I still do not understand: why are there three > keys describing the distance between staves and systems? In the Notation > Reference > (http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/flexible-vertical-spacing-p

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet (was: How to increase the distance between systems?)

2015-02-21 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Kaj (et al.), > if I understand it correct, the effective (resulting) distance will always be > the biggest of the three, hence >effective_distance = max(minimum-distance; basic-distance; padding). > Is there any reason to use three, one should be sufficient. If I understand correctly, th

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet (was: How to increase the distance between systems?)

2015-02-21 Thread Kaj
Hi Joram! I will say that compilations and overviews like this are most valuable and usable tools for people (like me) in the state where the different objects and concepts begin to come out of the shadows, but still you do not know the connections between them or their exact roles. So thank y

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet

2015-02-21 Thread Noeck
Hi, I've seen it once – didn't realize it is so similar. It doesn't contain the spacing within a score, though, which was the issue of the original thread. >> http://joramberger.de/files/LilypondSpacing.pdf > Here's another visual guide that Abraham Lee created that's similar: > http://lilypond.1

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet (was: How to increase the distance between systems?)

2015-02-21 Thread Paul Morris
Noeck wrote > To make the use of spacing settings easier, I put the most relevant > settings on > this page: > http://joramberger.de/files/LilypondSpacing.pdf Thanks Joram, this is very helpful! Here's another visual guide that Abraham Lee created that's similar: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabbl

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet

2015-02-21 Thread Colin Campbell
On 2015-02-21 06:04 AM, Noeck wrote: Hi Kaj, hi Lilypond users, I also would like to say that again that spacing is a bit daunting. But I hope with the help you got here, it is possible to adjust the spacing you need. The deeper understanding will come with time and it is difficult if one wants

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet (was: How to increase the distance between systems?)

2015-02-21 Thread Ralph Palmer
On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 8:04 AM, Noeck wrote: > Hi Kaj, hi Lilypond users, > > I also would like to say that again that spacing is a bit daunting. But I > hope > with the help you got here, it is possible to adjust the spacing you need. > The > deeper understanding will come with time and it is d

Re: Spacing Cheat Sheet (was: How to increase the distance between systems?)

2015-02-21 Thread Peter Danemo
Hi Joram! Thanks a lot! This is most helpful for a Lily newbie like myself! /Peter Peter Danemo +46-70-653 21 91 E-post: petedom...@gmail.com Web: danemo.com > 21 feb 2015 kl. 14:04 skrev Noeck : > > Hi Kaj, hi Lilypond users, > > I also would like to say that again that spacing is a bit d

Spacing Cheat Sheet (was: How to increase the distance between systems?)

2015-02-21 Thread Noeck
Hi Kaj, hi Lilypond users, I also would like to say that again that spacing is a bit daunting. But I hope with the help you got here, it is possible to adjust the spacing you need. The deeper understanding will come with time and it is difficult if one wants to understand everything at once. To m