Re: spacing problem

2008-08-14 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Did you try setting \override Score.SpacingSpanner > #'average-spacing-wishes = ##f It gives exactly the same result with both ##f and ##t. Such formatting must never happen IMHO. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org htt

Re: spacing problem

2008-08-14 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Did you try setting \override Score.SpacingSpanner #'average-spacing-wishes = ##f /Mats Quoting Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I've just found a wonderful example which demonstrates what I want to fix. Look at the fourth and fifth quarter: It's *really* ugly. On the other hand I'm n

Re: spacing problem

2008-08-14 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I've just found a wonderful example which demonstrates what I want to fix. Look at the fourth and fifth quarter: It's *really* ugly. On the other hand I'm not sure whether this is a different spacing bug. Joe? Werner <>___ lilypond-user mailing

Re: spacing problem

2008-08-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > Where shall I look? BTW, is there a documentation how rods and > > springs interact? > > Look at simple-spacer.cc to see how the aggregrate works. Aah, so rods are horizontal constraints which can't compressed further. > >> (If you do anything, please make sure it does the right thing for >

Re: spacing problem

2008-08-13 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 3:17 AM, Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> In tight situations, the rods take over the spacing. I think there >> is a small threshold that makes sure they don't touch. > > Where shall I look? BTW, is there a documentation how rods and > springs interact? Look a

Re: spacing problem

2008-08-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > A dotted, beamed note gets automatically more horizontal space due > > to the dot(s); I think nothing should change in this case. This > > holds for beamed notes in general. Regarding flagged notes, I'm > > not sure, but many flagged notes in succession are rather rare. > > Not in vocal musi

Re: spacing problem

2008-08-12 Thread James E. Bailey
Am 13.08.2008 um 08:17 schrieb Werner LEMBERG: I am not sure if you should use durations rather than dottedness. Should a dotted 64th need a lot of space to accomodate for the dot, or should it be treated like a very short note? A dotted, beamed note gets automatically more horizontal space

Re: spacing problem

2008-08-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > Isn't this too small in tight situations? Note heads might > > (almost) touch... > > In tight situations, the rods take over the spacing. I think there > is a small threshold that makes sure they don't touch. Where shall I look? BTW, is there a documentation how rods and springs interact?

Re: spacing problem

2008-08-12 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You're looking for whatever goes into the 2nd argument of the Spring >> constructor. > > Hmm. In file note-spacing.cc, function Note_Spacing::get_spacing, > which is used in Spacing_Spanner::musical_column_spacing, I se

Re: spacing problem

2008-08-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > I can't see anything in this file which influences the minimum > > value of a note's fixed-length part. get_duration_space() is > > obviously not what I'm looking for; it rather produces a default > > value which can still be squeezed by a spring, right? > > You're looking for whatever goes i

Re: spacing problem

2008-08-12 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
You're looking for whatever goes into the 2nd argument of the Spring constructor. On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > You mean a factor for base_note_space (at least this is what I >> > understand at looking at this code)? What about making it >> > conf

Re: spacing problem

2008-08-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > You mean a factor for base_note_space (at least this is what I > > understand at looking at this code)? What about making it > > configurable? > > It already is to some extent; look at lily/spacing-options.cc I can't see anything in this file which influences the minimum value of a note's fi

Re: spacing problem

2008-08-12 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > It's not specific to dotted notes but to notes which have longer >> > durations, and which get squeezed far too much -- the same problem >> > occurs for, say, half notes and whole notes. I simply want to >> > control t

Re: spacing problem

2008-08-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > It's not specific to dotted notes but to notes which have longer > > durations, and which get squeezed far too much -- the same problem > > occurs for, say, half notes and whole notes. I simply want to > > control these squeezing values globally. > > The spacing is controlled by 2 values in t

Re: spacing problem

2008-08-04 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Joe Neeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The spacing is controlled by 2 values in the end: the ideal length of >> the spring, and the width of the fixed part (the remaining is the >> stretchable part). I guess you want to increase the fixed width for >> these notes

Re: spacing problem

2008-08-04 Thread Joe Neeman
On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 11:34 -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's not specific to dotted notes but to notes which have longer > > durations, and which get squeezed far too much -- the same problem > > occurs for, say, hal

Re: spacing problem

2008-08-04 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's not specific to dotted notes but to notes which have longer > durations, and which get squeezed far too much -- the same problem > occurs for, say, half notes and whole notes. I simply want to control > these squeezin

Re: spacing problem

2008-08-03 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> AFAIK, the spacing engine does not treat dotted notes specially. > You may want to isolate the file to just the dotted note and set > breakpoints in gdb in notespacing.cc to get a better idea of what is > happening. It's not specific to dotted notes but to notes which have longer durations, and

Re: spacing problem

2008-08-03 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Hi, AFAIK, the spacing engine does not treat dotted notes specially. You may want to isolate the file to just the dotted note and set breakpoints in gdb in notespacing.cc to get a better idea of what is happening. On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You

Re: spacing problem

2008-08-03 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> You can tweak the 'extra-spacing-width property like so: [...] Thanks. I was unclear, sorry: I want to control it globally -- all such occurrences are bad; IMHO a dotted half note must never have so little vertical space (but this is both a matter of taste and the circumstances: within a part i

Re: spacing problem

2008-08-03 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please have a look at the attached PDF file, generated from this code: > > [snip] > > This is the `natural' spacing as provided by lilypond. However, IMHO, > the horizontal spacing of the dotted half note is too small.

Re: Spacing problem

2007-07-26 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/7/26, Siska Ádám <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I've sent the score to the list a few time ago, but it didn't arrive for me, although normally I get a copy of my own messages posted to the list. Did it arrive, or is there some restrictions for attachment type and/or size on this list? AFAIK, the ma

Re: Spacing problem

2007-07-26 Thread Siska Ádám
Hello, I've sent the score to the list a few time ago, but it didn't arrive for me, although normally I get a copy of my own messages posted to the list. Did it arrive, or is there some restrictions for attachment type and/or size on this list? Thank you, Adam Siska Ádám

Re: Spacing problem

2007-07-26 Thread Trevor Bača
On 7/26/07, Siska Ádám <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, I'm now getting some spacing errors with noteheads. I attach an image. Is this some positioning bug in 2.11? (In 2.10 I didn't notice it.) If not, is there some possible workaround for cases like these? (Both are produced at beam endings,

Re: spacing problem

2005-11-24 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Andreas Rittershofer wrote: I have two drumvoices, both are in 5/8. voiceTwo has five eights, this is easy. voiceOne has six eights in the same time, made with \times 5/6. The layout is ugly, the spacing of the notes isn't equidistant in neither voice nor are the first and last notes aligned

Re: Spacing Problem

2004-09-22 Thread Michael Lakes
Michael Lakes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Spacing Problem Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 10:34:05 +0200 New attempt to answer the original question! I played a bit with your example. If you really want all the 8th notes spaced as if there was a regular set of 16th notes in ano

Re: Spacing Problem

2004-09-22 Thread Mats Bengtsson
New attempt to answer the original question! I played a bit with your example. If you really want all the 8th notes spaced as if there was a regular set of 16th notes in another voice, you can easily fake that using an invisible voice with all 16th notes, as shown in the second bar of my example be

Re: Spacing Problem

2004-09-21 Thread Michael Lakes
Jack O'Quin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Michael Lakes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Spacing Problem Date: 21 Sep 2004 09:54:47 -0500 "Michael Lakes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yeah, fixed note spacing base on

Re: Spacing Problem

2004-09-21 Thread Jack O'Quin
"Michael Lakes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yeah, fixed note spacing base on note duration would not be good. I > thought of that as a fix for this problem, which would look better > than what's currently produced. > > > Notes in a measure probably should have the same spacing if they're > th

Re: Spacing Problem

2004-09-21 Thread Michael Lakes
AIL PROTECTED]> To: Michael Lakes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Spacing Problem Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:52:28 +0200 Have your read http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.2/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Horizontal-spacing.html I guess the main authors of LilyPond would say that

Re: Spacing Problem

2004-09-20 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Have your read http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.2/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Horizontal-spacing.html I guess the main authors of LilyPond would say that they didn't implement it to be able to produce such an ugly layout, you may still be able to get fixed note spacing by adjusting these paramete