Re: [slightly OT] polymeter (was "Re: chopin example")

2013-08-30 Thread David Rogers
Kieren MacMillan writes: > This thread reminded me that I wanted to let you all see the first few pages > of a recent commission, which ended up requiring polymetrics across line > breaks, etc. > > I love the way it turned out, and I can't imagine how difficult it would be > to engrave in some

Re: chopin example

2013-08-27 Thread Urs Liska
Am 27.08.2013 20:22, schrieb Martin Tarenskeen: On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Urs Liska wrote: Are there any biographical notions that Chopin used that Nocturne (page 2) as a resource bin for the f minor piano concerto? Yes there are. I don't know the exact story. I remember having read somewhere i

Re: chopin example

2013-08-27 Thread Urs Liska
Am 27.08.2013 19:42, schrieb Martin Tarenskeen: On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Urs Liska wrote: My Chopin score can be found here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zqnsijhiwp2ebgr/op8gtlOx9N (Let me know if the link doesn't work) So you don't want to know _that_ the link works? ;-) Nice score. Inter

Re: chopin example

2013-08-27 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Urs Liska wrote: Are there any biographical notions that Chopin used that Nocturne (page 2) as a resource bin for the f minor piano concerto? Yes there are. I don't know the exact story. I remember having read somewhere it was written for his sister, as a pre-study for

Re: chopin example

2013-08-27 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Urs Liska wrote: My Chopin score can be found here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zqnsijhiwp2ebgr/op8gtlOx9N (Let me know if the link doesn't work) So you don't want to know _that_ the link works? ;-) Nice score. Interesting use of polymetric notation. And interestin

Re: chopin example

2013-08-27 Thread Urs Liska
Am 27.08.2013 11:15, schrieb Martin Tarenskeen: Am 26.08.2013 13:45, schrieb Martin Tarenskeen: P.S. I am typesetting a lesser known and lesser played, yet Chopin autograph, version of this Nocturne, with some interesting typesetting issues. For example at some point in the score

Re: chopin example

2013-08-27 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
Am 26.08.2013 13:45, schrieb Martin Tarenskeen: P.S. I am typesetting a lesser known and lesser played, yet Chopin autograph, version of this Nocturne, with some interesting typesetting issues. For example at some point in the score I have to combine two 3/4 bars in the right han

Re: [slightly OT] polymeter (was "Re: chopin example")

2013-08-26 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/8/26 Kieren MacMillan : > Hello all, > > This thread reminded me that I wanted to let you all see the first few pages > of a recent commission, which ended up requiring polymetrics across line > breaks, etc. > > I love the way it turned out, and I can't imagine how difficult it would be > t

Re: [slightly OT] polymeter (was "Re: chopin example")

2013-08-26 Thread Mike Solomon
On 26 août 2013, at 17:11, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hello all, > > This thread reminded me that I wanted to let you all see the first few pages > of a recent commission, which ended up requiring polymetrics across line > breaks, etc. > > I love the way it turned out, and I can't imagine how

Re: chopin example

2013-08-26 Thread Urs Liska
Am 26.08.2013 15:30, schrieb David Kastrup: Urs Liska writes: Am 26.08.2013 13:45, schrieb Martin Tarenskeen: For example at some point in the score I have to combine two 3/4 bars in the right hand with one 2/2 bar in the left hand. polymetric music from 1830! BTW: Schubert had a manner of p

Re: chopin example

2013-08-26 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Am 26.08.2013 13:45, schrieb Martin Tarenskeen: >> For example at some point in the score I have to combine two 3/4 >> bars in the right hand with one 2/2 bar in the left hand. polymetric >> music from 1830! > BTW: Schubert had a manner of playing with 'weakening' metrics thr

Re: chopin example

2013-08-26 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013, Thomas Scharkowski wrote: Hi Martin, this is very interesting! Is it intentional, that the beginning is in 2/2, and after the 3/4 you have 4/4? I don't know , but this is what I copied from the Henle Urtext edition. It is strange because the complete piece starts as a

Re: chopin example

2013-08-26 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Mon, 26 Aug 2013, Urs Liska wrote: In the attached example "chopin-example.ly" (two bars from Chopin's Nocturne in C# minor) the horizontal spacing of some of the little notes is ugly. Watch for example in the first bar where the ottava jump starts. How can I

Re: chopin example

2013-08-26 Thread Urs Liska
Am 26.08.2013 13:45, schrieb Martin Tarenskeen: For example at some point in the score I have to combine two 3/4 bars in the right hand with one 2/2 bar in the left hand. polymetric music from 1830! BTW: Schubert had a manner of playing with 'weakening' metrics through the use of accents. I ha

Re: chopin example

2013-08-26 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
Original-Nachricht > ... > > P.S. I am typesetting a lesser known and lesser played, yet Chopin > autograph, version of this Nocturne, with some interesting typesetting > issues. For example at some point in the score I have to combine two 3/4 > bars in the right hand with

Re: chopin example

2013-08-26 Thread Urs Liska
Am 26.08.2013 13:45, schrieb Martin Tarenskeen: Hi, In the attached example "chopin-example.ly" (two bars from Chopin's Nocturne in C# minor) the horizontal spacing of some of the little notes is ugly. Watch for example in the first bar where the ottava jump starts. How can I manually impr