Re: Appoggiatura in bass clef at start of piece

2022-10-27 Thread Peter Mitton
Excellent explanation and many thanks Jean (and apologies again Harm for failing to understand the significance of the placement of the time and clef in your suggestion). I was indeed misunderstanding the significance of where I was placing the time and clef expressions. I now have a better un

RE: Appoggiatura in bass clef at start of piece

2022-10-27 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Appoggiatura in bass clef at start of piece Thanks, Harm, Sorry, I seemed to have missed out the most important part of the challenge! Apologies. This is a simplified extract of the lower staff from the start of a two staff piano arrangement that

Re: Appoggiatura in bass clef at start of piece

2022-10-27 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 27/10/2022 à 11:17, Peter Mitton a écrit : Thanks, Harm, Sorry, I seemed to have missed out the most important part of the challenge! Apologies. This is a simplified extract of the lower staff from the start of a two staff piano arrangement that requires 4 voices. It’s the addition of the

Re: Appoggiatura in bass clef at start of piece

2022-10-27 Thread Peter Mitton
Thanks, Harm, Sorry, I seemed to have missed out the most important part of the challenge! Apologies. This is a simplified extract of the lower staff from the start of a two staff piano arrangement that requires 4 voices. It’s the addition of the second voice that causes the additional treble c

Re: Appoggiatura in bass clef at start of piece

2022-10-26 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Mi., 26. Okt. 2022 um 19:27 Uhr schrieb Peter Mitton : > > Hi, > > I’m wondering if there is a better way of writing this code: > > \version "2.22.2" > > \new Staff { > << > % \time 6/8 > % \clef bass > \new Voice = "a" { >

Re: Appoggiatura before barline

2019-01-20 Thread Urs Liska
Hi Harm, thank you for pointing me to that (and actually now I recall having seen this hack some day). Am 18.01.19 um 21:14 schrieb Thomas Morley: Am Fr., 18. Jan. 2019 um 19:14 Uhr schrieb Urs Liska : Is there any convenient and semantically acceptable way of engraving an appoggiatura (or o

Re: Appoggiatura before barline

2019-01-18 Thread Valentin Villenave
On 1/18/19, Thomas Morley wrote: > you could try to use David K's cheat: Neat! I’ve added it to the LSR, and also tagged it as doc: http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=1083 V. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/m

Re: Appoggiatura before barline

2019-01-18 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Harm, Thanks. I tend to adjust rest positions manually anyway, so that's not an issue for me personally. With a bar full of notes it also usually looks pretty good. Andrew On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 at 12:20, Thomas Morley wrote: > > Spacing is a little off. The R1 is not really centered: > > ___

Re: Appoggiatura before barline

2019-01-18 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Sa., 19. Jan. 2019 um 02:03 Uhr schrieb Andrew Bernard : > > Hi Harm, > > I have been using this heavily thanks to David K for a very long time. > Although it may be a cheat, it works just fine. I see no drawbacks. What is > the downside here? Hi Andrew, Spacing is a little off. The R1 is no

Re: Appoggiatura before barline

2019-01-18 Thread Andrew Bernard
I should add that this works for grace notes also, which is actually what I use the technique for. Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Appoggiatura before barline

2019-01-18 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Harm, I have been using this heavily thanks to David K for a very long time. Although it may be a cheat, it works just fine. I see no drawbacks. What is the downside here? Andrew On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 at 07:15, Thomas Morley wrote: > > you could try to use David K's cheat: > > { > R1 > %

Re: Appoggiatura before barline

2019-01-18 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Fr., 18. Jan. 2019 um 19:14 Uhr schrieb Urs Liska : > > Is there any convenient and semantically acceptable way of engraving an > appoggiatura (or other grace notes) *before* the barline? I know that > usually one is pointed to \afterGrace to achieve something like that but > that seems semantic

Re: Appoggiatura slur not crossing beam

2019-01-15 Thread Urs Liska
Hi Mark and Aaron, thanks for your suggestions. I'll go with Aaron's because a) it does'n't rely on changing an unrelated element (the stem direction) and forces me to deviate from the source and b) because it seems to surgically remove the layout constraint that caused the issue. Thanks Urs

Re: Appoggiatura slur not crossing beam

2019-01-14 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2019-01-14 4:08 am, Urs Liska wrote: In an appoggiatura with the main note having the stem downwards the appoggiatura's slur will cross the stem, see the first of the two instances in this example: {   \appoggiatura d''4 c''   \appoggiatura d'4 c' } A client requests me to shorten the slurs

RE: Appoggiatura slur not crossing beam

2019-01-14 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Urs, Forgot something { \slurUp \stemDown \grace d''4 (c'') \stemUp \appoggiatura d'4 c' } Mark -Original Message- From: lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Urs Liska Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 4:08 AM To: lilypond-user

RE: Appoggiatura slur not crossing beam

2019-01-14 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Urs, Perhaps { \slurUp \stemDown \grace d''4 (c'') \appoggiatura d'4 c' } Mark -Original Message- From: lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Urs Liska Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 4:08 AM To: lilypond-user Subject: Appoggiatur

Re: appoggiatura problem

2016-07-07 Thread Michael Rivers
Encountering this bug for the first time is a right of passage. It will probably not be fixed in our lifetimes. Congratulations, you are now a Lilyponder! -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/appoggiatura-problem-tp192328p192353.html Sent from the User mailing

Re: appoggiatura problem

2016-07-07 Thread bb
Many tahnks! Have understood the problem. Regards Am 07.07.2016 um 17:42 schrieb David Kastrup: bb writes: I tried to write a treble line and a bass line. The treble line has an appoggiatura at the beginning, the bass line has not. If you compile that attached snippet you will find the appog

Re: appoggiatura problem

2016-07-07 Thread David Kastrup
bb writes: > I tried to write a treble line and a bass line. The treble line has an > appoggiatura at the beginning, the bass line has not. If you compile > that attached snippet you will find the appoggiatura before the time > definition. in the second measure/bar it is not. > > There is also a

Re: appoggiatura that goes into acciaccatura

2015-06-23 Thread tisimst
Luca, On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:09 AM, Luca Danieli [via Lilypond] < ml-node+s1069038n178112...@n5.nabble.com> wrote: > Hello Lilypond-ers again! > > How can I write an appoggiatura, which goes into an acciaccatura, and then > into the main note? > More or less this is what I thought: > > appoggi

Re: Appoggiatura or no

2013-07-20 Thread David Kastrup
kli...@yahoo.com writes: > David, > > Yes I like your approach much better. I had forgotten about the > difference between using \times and using multiplication to show a > tuplet. > > --John K > > Sent from my iPod > > On Jul 16, 2013, at 2:52 AM, lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote: > >> Send

Re: Appoggiatura or not appoggiatura?

2013-07-15 Thread David Rogers
John Kliewe writes: > Many thanks to the lilypond-user group for their advice on measure #47 > of the Chopin Nocturne #3 (Op 9 No 3). Urs' article on voices was > particularly helpful. > > My next challenge appeared in measure #69. This is working for me : > > \version "2.16.0" > \relative c' > {

Re: Appoggiatura in Anacrusis

2013-06-03 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude
Le 03/06/2013 17:32, Mark Stephen Mrotek disait : Good Day! A piece begins with an anacrusis – see attached file “without.ly.” When the “g” is notated as an appoggiatura to the “f” – see attached file “with.ly” – some dreck appears. Both hands don't have the same duration since one of them (R

Re: Appoggiatura before the bar line

2013-04-27 Thread Ralph Palmer
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Andrew Bernard wrote: > > Don't know if this works in 2.16, but here you are: > > > > \version "2.17.14" > > > > treble = \relative c'' { > > \clef treble > > \time 3/4 > > s2 g,8( a) | > > 2 4 > > } > > > bass = \relative c { > > \clef bass > > \time 3/4 >

Re: Appoggiatura before the bar line

2013-04-27 Thread Nathan
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Ralph Palmer wrote: > Greetings - > > I'm running Ly 2.16.2 under Win7. > > I'm trying to reproduce the appoggiatura below. I've looked in the > Notation Reference, the Snippet Repository, and the mailing list archives, > and I haven't found anything that helps. Ca

Re: Appoggiatura help

2012-11-29 Thread Thomas Morley
2012/11/30 Noeck : > Am 29.11.2012 23:56, schrieb Nick Payne: >> \version "2.17.6" >> >> \relative c'' { >> \once \override Slur #'direction = #UP >> \appoggiatura f8 fis, >> \once \override Slur #'direction = #UP >> \shape #'(0.7 -2.5 0.5 -2.3 0.3 -3 0 -4) Slur \appoggiatura f'8 fis, >

Re: Appoggiatura help

2012-11-29 Thread Noeck
Am 29.11.2012 23:56, schrieb Nick Payne: > \version "2.17.6" > > \relative c'' { > \once \override Slur #'direction = #UP > \appoggiatura f8 fis, > \once \override Slur #'direction = #UP > \shape #'(0.7 -2.5 0.5 -2.3 0.3 -3 0 -4) Slur \appoggiatura f'8 fis, \once \override Slur #'direc

Re: Appoggiatura help

2012-11-29 Thread Nick Payne
On 30/11/12 09:32, David Kastrup wrote: Nick Payne writes: See http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=777: \version "2.17.6" A rather new version. shapeSlur = #(define-music-function (parser location offsets) (list?) #{ \once \override Slur.control-points = #(alter-slur-curve of

Re: Appoggiatura help

2012-11-29 Thread Noeck
>> I guess, perhaps I could just leave the slur "as is" in my original post and >> just tweak the final output in Inkscape? No? Not ideal, but maybe? > > See http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=777: > > \version "2.17.6" > > #(define ((alter-slur-curve offsets) grob) > ;; get default control

Re: Appoggiatura help

2012-11-29 Thread SoundsFromSound
David Kastrup wrote > Nick Payne < > nick.payne@.on > > writes: > >> See http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=777: >> >> \version "2.17.6" > > A rather new version. > >> shapeSlur = #(define-music-function (parser location offsets) (list?) >> #{ >> \once \override Slur.control-point

Re: Appoggiatura help

2012-11-29 Thread David Kastrup
Nick Payne writes: > See http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=777: > > \version "2.17.6" A rather new version. > shapeSlur = #(define-music-function (parser location offsets) (list?) > #{ > \once \override Slur.control-points = #(alter-slur-curve offsets) > #}) And the above def

Re: Appoggiatura help

2012-11-29 Thread Nick Payne
On 30/11/12 08:59, SoundsFromSound wrote: shutterfreak wrote Hi, First, I suppose the last note in that 5/16 measure should be a fis8 and not a fis4, otherwise the measure should last 9/16 and not 5/16. I tried entering this in MuseScore. The default grace note gets no slur, adding a slur with

Re: Appoggiatura help

2012-11-29 Thread SoundsFromSound
shutterfreak wrote > Hi, > > First, I suppose the last note in that 5/16 measure should be a fis8 and > not a fis4, otherwise the measure should last 9/16 and not 5/16. > > I tried entering this in MuseScore. The default grace note gets no slur, > adding a slur without modifying a thing yields th

Re: Appoggiatura help

2012-11-29 Thread Olivier Biot
Hi, First, I suppose the last note in that 5/16 measure should be a fis8 and not a fis4, otherwise the measure should last 9/16 and not 5/16. I tried entering this in MuseScore. The default grace note gets no slur, adding a slur without modifying a thing yields the result in measure 1, inverting

Re: Appoggiatura help

2012-11-29 Thread SoundsFromSound
Nick Payne-3 wrote > On 29/11/12 18:32, SoundsFromSound wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Is there a way to flip the grace note/appoggiatura marking so it's above >> the >> note, instead of where it is now? It's all messy and overlapping; I'd >> like >> to move it to be above the notes. > > If you mean the

Re: Appoggiatura help

2012-11-29 Thread SoundsFromSound
Nick Payne-3 wrote > On 29/11/12 18:32, SoundsFromSound wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Is there a way to flip the grace note/appoggiatura marking so it's above >> the >> note, instead of where it is now? It's all messy and overlapping; I'd >> like >> to move it to be above the notes. > > If you mean the

Re: Appoggiatura help

2012-11-29 Thread Nick Payne
On 29/11/12 18:32, SoundsFromSound wrote: Hello, Is there a way to flip the grace note/appoggiatura marking so it's above the note, instead of where it is now? It's all messy and overlapping; I'd like to move it to be above the notes. If you mean the slur, use \once \override Slur #'direction

Re: Appoggiatura appears between two repeats

2011-12-11 Thread George_
Damn. Really should have seen that. Thanks. Xavier Scheuer wrote: > > On 12 December 2011 00:30, George_ wrote: >> >> http://old.nabble.com/file/p32957263/Untitled.jpg >> >> What I want is for the appoggiatura to be on the same side of the double >> bar >> line as the D#. What I wrote looks so

Re: Appoggiatura appears between two repeats

2011-12-11 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 12 December 2011 00:30, George_ wrote: > > http://old.nabble.com/file/p32957263/Untitled.jpg > > What I want is for the appoggiatura to be on the same side of the double bar > line as the D#. What I wrote looks something like what is below (at the > end). As you can see I've put the volta repea

Re: appoggiatura

2009-09-19 Thread Nick Didkovsky
Thank-you Carl Adding a spacer to staff 2 solves the corrupt layout when two staves are laid out. However when I convert just staff 1, whose first quarter note has a grace note, the resulting score displays a big distance between the grace note and the quarter note, which is not good. Note t

Re: appoggiatura

2009-09-19 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/19/09 1:39 PM, "Nick Didkovsky" wrote: > Hello James > > Thanks for your prompt reply. No, I assume the contents of staff 2 does > not need to be altered depending on the contents of staff 1. > > Staff 2 simply contains: > \time 4/4 > \clef treble > R4*4 > > How are you suggesting Sta

Re: appoggiatura

2009-09-19 Thread Nick Didkovsky
Hello James Thanks for your prompt reply. No, I assume the contents of staff 2 does not need to be altered depending on the contents of staff 1. Staff 2 simply contains: \time 4/4 \clef treble R4*4 How are you suggesting Staff 2's content need be altered? Thanks Nick Didkovsky James E. Bail

Re: appoggiatura

2009-09-19 Thread James E. Bailey
Have you added the spacer appoggiatura to the other staff? On 19.09.2009, at 21:07, Nick Didkovsky wrote: Hello, Can someone point out what I am doing wrong? I have a staff where the first note has an appoggiatura (see below) When this staff is converted, the layout looks good although ther

Re: appoggiatura and clef woes

2004-05-25 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Stan Sanderson wrote: On May 24, 2004, at 3:56 AM, Erik Sandberg wrote: On Monday 24 May 2004 04.30, Stan Sanderson wrote: Erik- I'm looking for a workaround for another bug reported earlier. Acciaccaturas before 32nd note runs apparently throw off the midi timing. This bug was added to our bug d

Re: appoggiatura and clef woes

2004-05-25 Thread Julien Salort
Erik Sandberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This could be considered a bug. You can, however, compare it to the following > situation; and suddenly it's not so obvious what the expected behaviour would > be: > \notes << > \new Staff { > r1 \clef bass r2 > } >

Re: appoggiatura and clef woes

2004-05-25 Thread Stan Sanderson
Stan On May 25, 2004, at 4:23 AM, Mats Bengtsson wrote: Stan Sanderson wrote: On May 24, 2004, at 3:56 AM, Erik Sandberg wrote: On Monday 24 May 2004 04.30, Stan Sanderson wrote: Erik- I'm looking for a workaround for another bug reported earlier. Acciaccaturas before 32nd note runs apparently th

Re: appoggiatura and clef woes

2004-05-24 Thread Stan Sanderson
On May 24, 2004, at 3:56 AM, Erik Sandberg wrote: On Monday 24 May 2004 04.30, Stan Sanderson wrote: Erik- I'm looking for a workaround for another bug reported earlier. Acciaccaturas before 32nd note runs apparently throw off the midi timing. This bug was added to our bug database (& you will be n

Re: appoggiatura and clef woes

2004-05-24 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Monday 24 May 2004 04.30, Stan Sanderson wrote: > Erik- > > I'm looking for a workaround for another bug reported earlier. > Acciaccaturas before 32nd note runs apparently throw off the midi > timing. This bug was added to our bug database (& you will be notified when it's fixed). Since this i

Re: appoggiatura and clef woes

2004-05-23 Thread Stan Sanderson
On May 23, 2004, at 5:58 PM, Erik Sandberg wrote: On Wednesday 19 May 2004 18.41, Julien Salort wrote: Hi, I don't understand why the following snippet does not give the desired result. I get two clefs one after the other... This could be considered a bug. You can, however, compare it to the follo

Re: appoggiatura and clef woes

2004-05-23 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Wednesday 19 May 2004 18.41, Julien Salort wrote: > Hi, > > I don't understand why the following snippet does not give the desired > result. > I get two clefs one after the other... This could be considered a bug. You can, however, compare it to the following situation; and suddenly it's not s

Re: Appoggiatura + Double Bar Line

2004-01-19 Thread Kieren Richard MacMillan
Will: \appoggiatura a,8( fsharp'8\p) r fsharp2 e16[( d fsharp a]) | (Bonus points for identifying what music it is!) It's almost exactly a quote from "Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back" (Han Solo's theme, I think), so I'm going to guess Richard Strauss... Best wishes, Kieren. ___