Re: PDF Problem (SVG output)

2007-07-20 Thread Vivian Barty-Taylor
ecified, so it should "just work", right? Thanks for any tips. Vivian. - Original Message From: Valentin Villenave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Steve Schow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Friday, 20 July, 2007 3:46:25 AM Subject: Re: PDF Problem 2007/7

Re: PDF Problem

2007-07-19 Thread Steve Schow
Rune. THANKS FOR TRACKING THAT DOWN BRUTHA! -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/PDF-Problem-tf4114229.html#a11702477 Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond

Re: PDF Problem

2007-07-19 Thread Rune Zedeler
Rune Zedeler skrev: I understand why the viewers have problems with lilypond's pdfs: For some reason lilypond does loads of conversions to and from millimeters. Oh, I never learn not to post comments late at night. The above really had nothing (afaics) to do with the problem. It should be fai

Re: PDF Problem

2007-07-19 Thread Rune Zedeler
Okay, I took a look. I understand why the viewers have problems with lilypond's pdfs: For some reason lilypond does loads of conversions to and from millimeters. I think it has something to do with lily defining one point to be 1/72.27 inch, whereas a postscript (and pdf) point is 1/72 inch. The

Re: PDF Problem

2007-07-19 Thread Steve Schow
and here are a couple PDF's. I can't share the last one from Overture yet due to licensing issues. http://www.nabble.com/file/p11701415/test_ghost_direct.pdf test_ghost_direct.pdf http://www.nabble.com/file/p11701415/test_ghost_manual.pdf test_ghost_manual.pdf http://www.nabble.com/file/p117

Re: PDF Problem

2007-07-19 Thread Rune Zedeler
Steve Schow skrev: Ok, here is a short example. Would you please post a /pdf/ (or ps)? -Rune ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: PDF Problem

2007-07-19 Thread Steve Schow
Ok, here is a short example. This is using windows ghostscript, and using the pre-compiled postscript file from Finale: http://www.nabble.com/file/p11701393/ScreenHunter_03%2BJul.%2B19%2B19.33.jpg This is using windows ghostscript direct from finale, through the print driver: http://www.nabbl

Re: PDF Problem

2007-07-19 Thread Rune Zedeler
Steve Schow skrev: I use ghostscript to produce overture and finale PDF's which look spectacular on screen on windows. Would you please post a small pdf created by finale, so that we have something to compare? -Rune ___ lilypond-user mailing li

Re: PDF Problem

2007-07-19 Thread Steve Schow
> For what it's worth, here's my screenshot of the same snippet > (Linux64). It's not perfect, but not so ugly though. Couldn't see your image? > Honestly, I don't think LilyPond developers *can* fix it (maybe > GhostScript guys could, I totally disagree. I use ghostscript to produce ove

Re: PDF Problem

2007-07-19 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/7/20, Steve Schow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Unfortunately I can't, which is why I am now reduced to begging, pleading, groveling and anything else that will influence the developers of Lilypond to consider fixing it. For what it's worth, here's my screenshot of the same snippet (Linux64). It's

Re: PDF Problem

2007-07-19 Thread Steve Schow
Unfortunately I can't, which is why I am now reduced to begging, pleading, groveling and anything else that will influence the developers of Lilypond to consider fixing it. Graham Percival-2 wrote: > > > If you can contribute any code that addresses > these issues, great. > > - Graham > >

Re: PDF Problem

2007-07-19 Thread Graham Percival
Steve Schow wrote: Seems to me that lilypond is producing some form of postscript that is not resiliant enough, or portable enough to display well in all viewers and platforms. I repeat: Please search the mailists (user, devel, and possibly bug) for previous discussions about this. If you can

Re: PDF Problem

2007-07-19 Thread Steve Schow
Using a different PDF viewer is not really an acceptable solution for work that will be published on the internet. It needs to be acceptably viewable in ANY pdf viewer on any platform. I will point out again, that if a PDF is created on the mac(with finale), it looks fine on windows. Also if

Re: PDF Problem

2007-07-19 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/7/20, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Because your on-screen PDF viewer lies to you. Particularly on windows. Yes, this is something I noticed. On windows for example, the JPedal viewer which is included in LilyPondTool produces awfuls results ; Adobe is not very good either. I used

Re: PDF Problem

2007-07-19 Thread Graham Percival
Steve Schow wrote: Ok, here's a question. I know this question comes up occasionally. I have been one of the people bringing it up. Why do lilypond PDF's look crappy on-screen, even though they print fine? particularly on windows. Because your on-screen PDF viewer lies to you. Particularl