flats will
be right there for me to see. I have actually found myself wishing for this on
occasion, so all is well. đź‘Ť
From: David Kastrup
Sent: 14 May 2024 19:33
To: Giles Boardman
Cc: msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca ; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Key signatures
Giles Boardman writes:
> Hello,
>
> I have figured "it" out - Cakewalk expects Key Signature to be in
> Track 0 of a Midi file and Lilypond puts it in whichever track has it
> in, which is much more sensible. I realized this while compiling the
> cry for help below, so I've left my workings out i
M and
the Key Sigs stand out because there's more than one.
So, Cakewalk expects Key Signatures in Track #0 and Lilypond doesn't put them
there and how data is brought into Lilypond won't change that.
From: David Kastrup
Sent: 11 May 2024 20:22
To:
On Sat 11 May 2024 at 15:14:47 (+), Giles Boardman wrote:
> You are, of course, right. Your evidence is clear. The position of the \key
> command seems a strong candidate but I can't get it into the .MID even in the
> simplest of snippet.
>
> As I mentioned I also have other behaviour I can'
Giles Boardman writes:
> You are, of course, right. Your evidence is clear. The position of the \key
> command seems a strong candidate but I can't get it into the .MID even in the
> simplest of snippet.
>
> As I mentioned I also have other behaviour I can't explain so it could also
> be versi
rt2v1.ly"
\score {
\time 4/4
\key d\major
{ \mark "1K002-1a-" { \partial 8 g''8 fis''16 d''8. b'8. d''16 a'4 fis'4
fis'16 a'8. d''8. fis''16 g''16 e''8. e''8. g'
On Sat, 11 May 2024, Giles Boardman wrote:
> I have now been more systematic in my approach and conclude that \key is not
> reflected in MIDI output. I tried various positions for events and in each
Well, it definitely is reflected in the output in my own tests. The
example code I posted, when r
msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca writes:
> On Sat, 11 May 2024, Giles Boardman wrote:
>
>> When I create MIDI output from Lilypond, if I have imported a MIDI file and
>> then resaved it with changes made in LilyPond, the output is like that, too.
>
> Lilypond as such does not import MIDI files. I think y
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To: Giles Boardman
Cc: Hans Ă…berg ; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Key signatures in MIDI output
On Sat, 11 May 2024, Giles Boardman wrote:
> When I create MIDI output from Lilypond, if I have imported a MIDI file and
> then resaved it with changes made in LilyPond, the output is li
On Sat, 11 May 2024, Giles Boardman wrote:
> When I create MIDI output from Lilypond, if I have imported a MIDI file and
> then resaved it with changes made in LilyPond, the output is like that, too.
Lilypond as such does not import MIDI files. I think you must be using
some piece of software ot
> On 10 May 2024, at 22:21, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote:
>
> On Fri, 10 May 2024, Hans Ă…berg wrote:
>
>>> signature. The MIDI file does not contain that information; it is up to
>>> whatever software reads the MIDI file, to display it appropriately.
>>
>> So to go back to staff notation f
Giles Boardman writes:
> However, when I create new files, I am getting output that is as if I
> have chosen to write everything in C major, with all the flats and
> sharps shown explicitly. Nevertheless, the screen and pdf output are
> written in, for example G, with no sharps on the individual
nippets to the forum.
Thanks for your interest.
From: msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca
Sent: 10 May 2024 21:21
To: Hans Ă…berg
Cc: Giles Boardman ; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Key signatures in MIDI output
On Fri, 10 May 2024, Hans Ă…berg wrote:
> > sign
Giles Boardman writes:
> Hello,
>
> I am reading that I can create MIDI output which is different from the
> printed output. For example, I can unfold repeats in the midi output
> but use alternative endings and double barlines in my score. Awesome!
>
> So, I tried it and I notice that my MIDI ou
On Fri, 10 May 2024, Hans Ă…berg wrote:
> > signature. The MIDI file does not contain that information; it is up to
> > whatever software reads the MIDI file, to display it appropriately.
>
> So to go back to staff notation from MIDI, one must know what enharmonic
> equivalences that have been app
> On 10 May 2024, at 21:50, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote:
>
> On Fri, 10 May 2024, Hans Ă…berg wrote:
>
>> Programs like ABC work so that one writes the music without accidentals,
>> and then apply a key signature to get them. It was my reading that the
>> OP asked for that.
>
> Okay. I didn
On Fri, 10 May 2024, Hans Ă…berg wrote:
> Programs like ABC work so that one writes the music without accidentals,
> and then apply a key signature to get them. It was my reading that the
> OP asked for that.
Okay. I didn't read it that way because the OP said he was getting
correct output in the
> On 10 May 2024, at 20:18, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote:
>
> On Fri, 10 May 2024, Hans Ă…berg wrote:
>
>> To change the MIDI output, you will need to change the notes, say by
>> transposing or something else.
>
> MIDI files can include events ("key-change meta messages") for key
> signatures
On Fri, 10 May 2024, Hans Ă…berg wrote:
> To change the MIDI output, you will need to change the notes, say by
> transposing or something else.
MIDI files can include events ("key-change meta messages") for key
signatures, each specifying a root and whether it's major or minor (which
actually make
> On 10 May 2024, at 16:26, Giles Boardman wrote:
>
> I am reading that I can create MIDI output which is different from the
> printed output. For example, I can unfold repeats in the midi output but use
> alternative endings and double barlines in my score. Awesome!
>
> So, I tried it and I
2018-04-17 7:47 GMT+02:00 Lukas-Fabian Moser :
> Am 17.04.2018 um 01:24 schrieb Torsten Hämmerle:
>
> Even if my opinion may differ from the general opinion here, I think that
>> in
>> popular music, one would use standard D major key signature.
>> Reason: Two sharps clearly show D major tonic and
>> Even if my opinion may differ from the general opinion here, I think that in
>> popular music, one would use standard D major key signature.
>> Reason: Two sharps clearly show D major tonic and the characteristic mixo
>> tone C (flat seventh) stands out in the sheet music by the accidental used
Am 2018-04-17 um 07:47 schrieb Lukas-Fabian Moser :
> Am 17.04.2018 um 01:24 schrieb Torsten Hämmerle:
>
>> Even if my opinion may differ from the general opinion here, I think that in
>> popular music, one would use standard D major key signature.
>> Reason: Two sharps clearly show D major tonic
Am 17.04.2018 um 01:24 schrieb Torsten Hämmerle:
Even if my opinion may differ from the general opinion here, I think that in
popular music, one would use standard D major key signature.
Reason: Two sharps clearly show D major tonic and the characteristic mixo
tone C (flat seventh) stands out in
Peter Crighton wrote
> I am transcribing a song in D Mixolydian
> [...]
> in this case it is a pop song
Hi Peter,
Even if my opinion may differ from the general opinion here, I think that in
popular music, one would use standard D major key signature.
Reason: Two sharps clearly show D major tonic
The music is forced to have one sharp or it will be unreadable to musicians.
I would say suppress the key name. Musicians know what key it is in already.
Al.
Original message
From: Peter Crighton
Date: 4/16/18 2:36 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: LilyPond User Mailing List
Subject:
> On 16 Apr 2018, at 21:18, Peter Crighton wrote:
>
> I am transcribing a song in D Mixolydian and am wondering which key signature
> to notate it in – d \mixolydian (because that is the mode it is in) or d
> \major (because a D major chord clearly is the tonic of the song). I’d rather
> nota
Peter Crighton writes:
> Hello all,
>
> my question is not exclusive to LilyPond, but I hope you can enlighten me
> anyway.
>
> I am transcribing a song in D Mixolydian and am wondering which key
> signature to notate it in – d \mixolydian (because that is the mode it is
> in) or d \major (becaus
2018-04-16 21:18 GMT+02:00 Peter Crighton :
> Hello all,
>
> my question is not exclusive to LilyPond, but I hope you can enlighten me
> anyway.
>
> I am transcribing a song in D Mixolydian and am wondering which key
> signature to notate it in – d \mixolydian (because that is the mode it is
> in)
On 16/04/17 02:36, David Wright wrote:
> Quite understandable though. No page turns, so every inch of real
> estate is precious. You lose the clef too.
Which explains my occasional :-) moans on this list about trying to get
rid of wasted space and pack everything in on one page with lilypond.
Tha
On Sat 15 Apr 2017 at 23:12:36 (+0100), Wols Lists wrote:
> On 15/04/17 21:55, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
> > Hi Wol,
> >
> >> > most of the music I see from the turn of last century does NOT.
>
> > Does not repeat the key signature? Fascinating! What field/genre are you
> > working in?
>
> Mostly
On 15/04/17 21:55, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
> Hi Wol,
>
>> > most of the music I see from the turn of last century does NOT.
> Does not repeat the key signature? Fascinating! What field/genre are you
> working in?
Mostly published by either Boosey, or Hawkes. They merged about 1920 ... :-)
I th
Hi Wol,
> most of the music I see from the turn of last century does NOT.
Does not repeat the key signature? Fascinating! What field/genre are you
working in?
I studied, and now work in the classical (both “old” and “new”), jazz
(instrumental and vocal/choral), and musical theatre worlds, and
On 15/04/17 15:55, Malte Meyn wrote:
May I ask how much sheet music you have seen so far? All (!) classical
sheet music repeats key signature at every line. And many editions of
pop/jazz/… do that also.
And most of the music I see from the turn of last century does NOT.
However, imho, it makes
[...]
>But yes, it’s self-explaining this time.
Thank's God! :-)
>> On my scores, the key signature appears on every beginning of a staff.
>Not only on yours.
>> I wonder if it's right or if it SHOULD be avoided. In the latter case,
>> what
>> should I do?
> May I ask how much sheet music you
Am 15.04.2017 um 16:41 schrieb Son_V:
> I dare to try a minimal example! :-)
> But I hope it's self-explaining.
\version "2.18.2"
{
\key d \major
R1*20
}
That’s not too hard ;)
But yes, it’s self-explaining this time.
> On my scores, the key signature appears on every beginni
2014-10-07 20:16 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup :
> Peter Crighton writes:
>
> > 2014-10-05 16:38 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup :
> >> >
> >> > Okay, thanks for explaining. For now I am content with using “\omit
> >> > Staff.KeySignature” and “\revert Staff.KeySignature.stencil”
> respectively
> >> > to get r
Peter Crighton gmail.com> writes:
> As you can see in the following code and the attached image, there is a
possible bug when using \RemoveEmptyStaves with voices in different keys
(such as in a score with transposing instruments): key signatures appearing
only in hidden empty staves are still
Peter Crighton writes:
> 2014-10-05 16:38 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup :
>> >
>> > Okay, thanks for explaining. For now I am content with using “\omit
>> > Staff.KeySignature” and “\revert Staff.KeySignature.stencil” respectively
>> > to get rid of the problem.
>> >
>> > What I found strange, though,
2014-10-05 16:38 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup :
> Peter Crighton writes:
>
> > 2014-10-05 11:15 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup :
> >
> >> Simon Albrecht writes:
> >>
> >> > Am 04.10.2014 um 23:13 schrieb Peter Crighton:
> >> >> As you can see in the following code and the attached image, there
> >> >> is a
Peter Crighton writes:
> 2014-10-05 11:15 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup :
>
>> Simon Albrecht writes:
>>
>> > Am 04.10.2014 um 23:13 schrieb Peter Crighton:
>> >> As you can see in the following code and the attached image, there
>> >> is a possible bug when using \RemoveEmptyStaves with voices in
>>
2014-10-05 11:15 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup :
> Simon Albrecht writes:
>
> > Am 04.10.2014 um 23:13 schrieb Peter Crighton:
> >> As you can see in the following code and the attached image, there
> >> is a possible bug when using \RemoveEmptyStaves with voices in
> >> different keys (such as in a sc
Simon Albrecht writes:
> Am 04.10.2014 um 23:13 schrieb Peter Crighton:
>> As you can see in the following code and the attached image, there
>> is a possible bug when using \RemoveEmptyStaves with voices in
>> different keys (such as in a score with transposing instruments):
>> key signatures ap
Am 04.10.2014 um 23:13 schrieb Peter Crighton:
As you can see in the following code and the attached image, there is
a possible bug when using \RemoveEmptyStaves with voices in different
keys (such as in a score with transposing instruments): key signatures
appearing only in hidden empty staves
GReetings,
You wrote:-
+
I'm currently working on a bit of music with a key signature in the
ossia that is not in the main voice. The typesetting is meh due to the
large gap to accommodate the key signature. Is there any way t
Hi Kieren,
Many thanks, ah... i copied music from another file, where time, key, cleff,
etc... & music are put into the staff and put together in score.
Best,
Eby.
--- On Fri, 3/26/10, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
> From: Kieren MacMillan
> Subject: Re: key signatures and partcombine
Hi Eby,
> What should i do to show key signatures when using \partcombine ? you can see
> it doesn't render any key signature when \partcombine is used.
Yes it does -- you haven't put the \global (with the key signature) into your
partcombine-d staff:
> \new Staff \with { printPartCombineTexts
On Wed 13 September 2006 14:42, Markus Schneider wrote:
> Hi Karen,
>
> > appears without an accidental sign before it. That's OK for notes
> > needing accidentals, but in keys with 2 or more sharps or flats it's a
> > lot more
>
> typing!!
>
> if you want to save typing, you can always use your t
Hi Karen,
> appears without an accidental sign before it. That's OK for notes needing
> accidentals, but in keys with 2 or more sharps or flats it's a lot more
typing!!
if you want to save typing, you can always use your text editor's search and
replace after you put in all your notes. Maybe eve
On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 12:16:52PM +, Karen wrote:
> Hello
>
> I have recently started using Lilypond to typset quite a lot of songs and
> have a
> comment...
>
> When a key signature has been entered, it would be great if the notes could
> automatically be recognised as they would appear on
ul
Thanks,
Michael.
- Original Message - From: "Paul Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Michael Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc:
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: Key Signatures
Michael Phillips wrote:
I don't seem to be able to g
ginal Message -
> From: "Ramana Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Michael Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc:
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 9:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Key Signatures
>
>
> show us your .ly code
>
> On 2/11/06, Michael
Michael Phillips wrote:
I don't seem to be able to get the Key Signatures to show on the bar line after
I enter the command - just the Clef, time signature (a default, I belive),and
the notes and accidentals as I've netered them. This even from following the
tutorial instructions.
Please te
Please always tell what version of LilyPond you use and preferably also
include an example of what you tried.
The following example, for example, works excellently in version 2.6.5.
\version "2.6.0"
\score{
\relative c'{
c d e f |
\key d \major
d e fis g }
}
/Mats
Quoting Micha
Hi.
> I don't seem to be able to get the Key Signatures to show on the bar line
> after
> I enter the command - just the Clef, time signature (a default, I belive),and
> the notes and accidentals as I've netered them. This even from following the
> tutorial instructions.
>
Please insert a s
show us your .ly code
On 2/11/06, Michael Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't seem to be able to get the Key Signatures to show on the bar line
> after
> I enter the command - just the Clef, time signature (a default, I belive),and
> the notes and accidentals as I've netered them. This
On Friday 16 September 2005 20.59, nirly (sent by Nabble.com) wrote:
> i'm using lilypond right now jut to make very simple scores by a program
> i'm making my files are pretty much just a bunch of...
> { c d e f g }
> { c e f d }
> etc...
>
> what is the simplest way to add key signatures and time
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As far as I can see, this behaviour is hard-coded into LilyPond (since
it corresponds to normal typesetting practice). However, I send a copy
of your question to bug-lilypond, to turn it into a feature request.
added to CVS (\set Staff.prin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> As far as I can see, this behaviour is hard-coded into LilyPond (since
> it corresponds to normal typesetting practice). However, I send a copy
> of your question to bug-lilypond, to turn it into a feature request.
added to CVS (\set Staff.printKeyCancellation = ##f)
As far as I can see, this behaviour is hard-coded into LilyPond (since
it corresponds to normal typesetting practice). However, I send a copy
of your question to bug-lilypond, to turn it into a feature request.
/Mats
James Fay wrote:
In a line of music with a different key signature each measure
On Sunday March 21 2004 16:25, James Fay wrote:
> In a line of music with a different key signature each measure (music
> theory quiz), is there a way to prevent naturals from showing up in each
> new key signature.
I don't know if there is a way to suppress displaying the naturals in
keysignatu
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