Re: Help getting started with Danny Boy

2008-05-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Jay Peek wrote In addition, I read somewhere that there are 4 basic books to the "manual". The "learning manual" is different than 10 mos. ago, true? True! The Learning Manual in particular has been largely rewritten since then and is the place to start. The manuals for the development rel

Re: Help getting started with Danny Boy

2008-05-04 Thread plasmacarwash
Hey Folks, I read through much of the discourse here and appreciate it all. Directly after posting the 1st time, I started in on the "new manual". I experienced the typical sensation of being away from Lilypond for over 10 mos. If ya don't use it, ya lose it. In addition, I read somewhere that th

Re: Help getting started with Danny Boy

2008-05-04 Thread Paul Scott
On May 4, 2008, at 12:38 AM, James E. Bailey wrote: Am 04.05.2008 um 05:59 schrieb Paul Scott: On May 3, 2008, at 6:44 PM, plasmacarwash wrote: Dear James, Actually I was wondering, once we set the time signature and choose which value our notes will be (half, quart, eighth) -does th

Re: Help getting started with Danny Boy

2008-05-04 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/5/4 Peter Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 04/05 09:38:29, James E. Bailey wrote: > > Am 04.05.2008 um 05:59 schrieb Paul Scott: > [ snip plasmacarwash's questions ] > > >> Have you read the tutorial? > >> > >> We can help you better if you show us what you have tried. > I think Paul's s

Re: Help getting started with Danny Boy

2008-05-04 Thread Peter Wright
On 04/05 09:38:29, James E. Bailey wrote: > Am 04.05.2008 um 05:59 schrieb Paul Scott: [ snip plasmacarwash's questions ] >> Have you read the tutorial? >> >> We can help you better if you show us what you have tried. > > I'm sorry, if this is rude, but this is a real pet peeve of mine. > Rather th

Re: Help getting started with Danny Boy

2008-05-04 Thread James E. Bailey
Am 04.05.2008 um 05:59 schrieb Paul Scott: On May 3, 2008, at 6:44 PM, plasmacarwash wrote: Dear James, Actually I was wondering, once we set the time signature and choose which value our notes will be (half, quart, eighth) -does the program automatically create the desired bars? The ap

Re: Help getting started with Danny Boy

2008-05-03 Thread James E. Bailey
Am 04.05.2008 um 03:44 schrieb plasmacarwash: Dear James, Actually I was wondering, once we set the time signature and choose which value our notes will be (half, quart, eighth) -does the program automatically create the desired bars? The appropriate measures? I assume it does after that i

Re: Help getting started with Danny Boy

2008-05-03 Thread Paul Scott
On May 3, 2008, at 6:44 PM, plasmacarwash wrote: Dear James, Actually I was wondering, once we set the time signature and choose which value our notes will be (half, quart, eighth) -does the program automatically create the desired bars? The appropriate measures? I assume it does after tha

Re: Help getting started with Danny Boy

2008-05-03 Thread plasmacarwash
Dear James, Actually I was wondering, once we set the time signature and choose which value our notes will be (half, quart, eighth) -does the program automatically create the desired bars? The appropriate measures? I assume it does after that input. Also I need help fetching a "vertical squiggl

Re: Help getting started with Danny Boy

2008-05-03 Thread James E. Bailey
Am 03.05.2008 um 04:24 schrieb plasmacarwash: Hey Forum, I am transcribing Danny Boy from this mans arrang. http://www.home.earthlink.net/~markdlew/shw/DannyBoy.htm (Mark D. Lew) . (3 pages short) It is from key 'D' to 'C' that I desire. I need only help on the vocal. I already have th

Re: Help getting started

2004-06-04 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >>I opened up changing-defaults.itely, > >>added "@cindex Hello" to some random node and did "make doc", but the > >>resulting index (I browsed to it from index.html in the out-www > >>directory) didn't reflect my changes. What am I doing wrong? > >> > >> > > >

Re: Help getting started - lilypond structure

2004-06-04 Thread Mats Bengtsson
If you want to implement a new parser, I recommend that you look at the parser in LilyPond, lily/parser.yy. There, you will at least learn that the full syntax is a fairly complex creature. Joe Neeman wrote: This is a follow-up on the question of lilypond structure. Here is how I think a lilypond

Re: Help getting started - lilypond structure

2004-06-04 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Friday 04 June 2004 14.36, Joe Neeman wrote: > This is a follow-up on the question of lilypond structure. Here is how I > think a lilypond file is organised. It is fairly important that I get > this right, because I am trying to rewrite the lily parser in denemo. > Please correct me if I'm wrong

Re: Help getting started

2004-06-04 Thread Joe Neeman
I opened up changing-defaults.itely, added "@cindex Hello" to some random node and did "make doc", but the resulting index (I browsed to it from index.html in the out-www directory) didn't reflect my changes. What am I doing wrong? try doing make in Documentation/user the change should

Re: Help getting started - lilypond structure

2004-06-04 Thread Joe Neeman
This is a follow-up on the question of lilypond structure. Here is how I think a lilypond file is organised. It is fairly important that I get this right, because I am trying to rewrite the lily parser in denemo. Please correct me if I'm wrong. A Voice consists of a sequence of notes and variou

Re: Help getting started

2004-06-04 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >Lilypond works. Someone just needs to plow through > >Documentation/user/*.itely (in the source archive) and add lots of > >relevant > > > > @cindex > > > >entries. > > > >Would you be willing to take up that task? > > > > > Sure, if you'll tell me how :). I opened u

Re: Help getting started

2004-06-04 Thread Joe Neeman
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: etc". The second thing is the expansion of the unified index. The index is a great way of finding what section something is is, but it's not big enough. For example, the "<<" operator isn't there and neither is "#". It does have a link to the

Re: Help getting started

2004-06-03 Thread Jim Sabatke
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: etc". The second thing is the expansion of the unified index. The index is a great way of finding what section something is is, but it's not big enough. For example, the "<<" operator isn't there and neither is "#". It does have a link to the Sch

Re: Help getting started

2004-06-03 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > etc". The second thing is the expansion of the unified index. The index > is a great way of finding what section something is is, but it's not big > enough. For example, the "<<" operator isn't there and neither is "#". > It does have a link to the Scheme tutorial, bu

Re: Help getting started

2004-06-03 Thread Joe Neeman
I have a question to you; how can the manual be changed so that it is easier to find the answer to your questions? There are two things. The first is a short overview of the structure of a lilypond file. Something that says "A lilypond file consists, at the top level, of these blocks. This block

Re: Help getting started

2004-06-03 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I agree. I asked before "what is the structure of an ly file?" I never got an answer. That leaves me guessing from examples. I was using 2.3.1 for a while, until I found out that some of the formatting doesn't work yet. When I went back to 2.2.1, I had to make major changes to a simple lay

Re: Help getting started

2004-06-03 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Hopefully, the answer to most of your questions can be founds in Chapter 4 "Changing defaults" of the manual. Regarding the original question, look at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.2/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Selecting-font-sizes.html#Selecting%20font%20sizes especially the last line about p

Re: Help getting started

2004-06-02 Thread donald_j_axel
On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 20:37:50 +0200 Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The discussion about lacking quality of the user-manual is a recurring > theme. The last time, it gave rise to the wiki, whose popularity has > been rather disappointing IMO. Yes, unfortunately. I would like to strike

Re: Help getting started

2004-06-01 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >>place the commands. I've tried searching the lilypond wiki > >>site, but the searches returns mostly hits on how to setup > >>the wiki. > > > > > > You hit a weak point here. Your criticism is a little over the > > target though. Some Lilypond writers think it is

Re: Help getting started

2004-06-01 Thread dax2
Thanks for your kind reaction, On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 06:48:59 -0500 Jim Sabatke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If documentation is usable, then it is good. Grammar and > word choices can always be modified by others. I don't find > such language very disturbing anyway; it's the content that

Re: Help getting started

2004-06-01 Thread Jim Sabatke
donald_j_axel wrote: On Mon, 31 May 2004 19:48:40 -0500 Jim Sabatke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm researching "how do I make a note head smaller" because I need to fit a few more notes on a line to keep it from Many techniques can be found in the documentation, this is one of them. [...] plac

Re: Help getting started

2004-06-01 Thread Hendrik
Joe Neeman wrote: >>> I don't think it's possible to use lilypond without lots of painful >>> research. I haven't been able to find an index, or google search >>> that will reliably return simple information. >> >> In my opinion, the most important piece of missing documentation is >> one that de

Re: Help getting started

2004-06-01 Thread David Boersma
Hello Donald, On Tue, 1 Jun 2004, donald_j_axel wrote: > You will soon find out that it is very difficult to write decent > documentation and that many Lilyponders actually write useable but > annoying (wrong) English. This will of course bounce back to you: if you are a native English speaker t

Re: Help getting started

2004-06-01 Thread donald_j_axel
On Mon, 31 May 2004 19:48:40 -0500 Jim Sabatke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm researching "how do I make a note head smaller" because > I need to fit a few more notes on a line to keep it from Many techniques can be found in the documentation, this is one of them. [...] > place the commands

Re: Help getting started

2004-05-31 Thread Joe Neeman
I'm researching "how do I make a note head smaller" because I need to fit a few more notes on a line to keep it from going nuts and extending lines way past explicit "\break" commands. I've googled and grep'd tons of documents, and I still don't know how to do it. I've found possible solutio

Re: Help getting started

2004-05-31 Thread Jim Sabatke
Joe Neeman wrote: I don't think it's possible to use lilypond without lots of painful research. I haven't been able to find an index, or google search that will reliably return simple information. In my opinion, the most important piece of missing documentation is one that describes the basic

Re: Help getting started

2004-05-31 Thread Joe Neeman
I don't think it's possible to use lilypond without lots of painful research. I haven't been able to find an index, or google search that will reliably return simple information. In my opinion, the most important piece of missing documentation is one that describes the basic syntactic and gram

Re: Help getting started

2004-05-31 Thread Jim Sabatke
Hendrik wrote: Hello, I'm trying to make my first file with Lilypond. What I have so far: \version "2.2.0" \include "espanol.ly" \header { title = "Una Caricia" author = "Eduardo D. Bensadon" } melodie = \relative la''' {si-2 la#-1 si fa2-4 sol-4} begeleiding = \relative sol' {r <> <> r <> <>} b