Re: 17th century English kbd ornaments

Just my opinion, but I think it is usually a good idea to use an original source such as Purcell's mentioned in the original post, rather than rely on a secondary source such as Dolmetsch. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/17th-century-English-kbd-ornaments-

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execution. > > > > Mark > > > > *From:* lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark= > ca.rr@gnu.org] *On Behalf Of *Pierre Perol-Schneider > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 19, 2016 1:06 AM > *To:* Andrew Bernard > *Cc:* Michael Rivers ; lilypond-user < >

RE: 17th century English kbd ornaments

: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 1:06 AM To: Andrew Bernard Cc: Michael Rivers ; lilypond-user Subject: Re: 17th century English kbd ornaments BTW, I found this : http://home.insightbb.com/~cratonkiwi/music/orn3.jpg Are these glyphs and explanation accurate? (Actually, the example taken to draw my glyph

Re: 17th century English kbd ornaments

On Tue, 2016-07-19 at 12:08 +0200, Simon Albrecht wrote: > On 19.07.2016 09:56, Richard Shann wrote: > >> If we did them as > >> ornaments the possibility would arise of being able to use them to set > >> English Virginal Music which uses the slash and double slash, > > those behave rather differen

Re: 17th century English kbd ornaments

On 19.07.2016 09:56, Richard Shann wrote: If we did them as ornaments the possibility would arise of being able to use them to set English Virginal Music which uses the slash and double slash, those behave rather differently from ornaments, being as you say, through the stem. through the stem,

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On Tue, 2016-07-19 at 05:34 +0500, Andrew Bernard wrote: > Hi Pierre, > > > Wouldn’t it be better to do these are actual ornaments instead of just > markup? I say this because there is a page on the lilyond blog > regarding this, but it is only partially complete. If we did them as > ornaments th

Re: 17th century English kbd ornaments

BTW, I found this : http://home.insightbb.com/~cratonkiwi/music/orn3.jpg Are these glyphs and explanation accurate? (Actually, the example taken to draw my glyph was: http://imslp.nl/imglnks/usimg/c/c7/IMSLP351896-PMLP568401-Purcell_CorantZ644.pdf ) Cheers, Pierre 2016-07-19 9:49 GMT+02:00 Pierre

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Hi Andrew, Interesting question. I'm not familiar with Purcell's work but what I found on IMSLP was that this shake is used as (e.g.) a trill. So how about : \version "2.19.45" purcell-shake-glyph = \markup\stencil #(make-path-stencil '(M -0.20 0.05 L 1.55 0.51 M -0.31 0.43 L 1.45 0

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Or even: shake = -\tweak stencil #(lambda (grob)(grob-interpret-markup grob purcell-shake-glyph)) \trill Cheers, Pierre 2016-07-19 9:44 GMT+02:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider < pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com>: > Hi Andrew, > > Interesting question. > I'm not familiar with Purcell's work but what I

Re: 17th century English kbd ornaments

Hi Pierre, Wouldn’t it be better to do these are actual ornaments instead of just markup? I say this because there is a page on the lilyond blog regarding this, but it is only partially complete. If we did them as ornaments the possibility would arise of being able to use them to set English Virgi

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You're welcome Michael. However, I noticed I made a typo. So please change the code so: purcell = ^\markup\stencil #(make-path-stencil '(M -0.20 0.05 L 1.55 0.51 M -0.31 0.43 L 1.45 0.90 ;; uncomment the line hereunder if necessary: ;; M -0.69 -0.10 L -1.15 1.70

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That looks great. Thanks so much! -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/17th-century-English-kbd-ornaments-tp148407p192792.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lil

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Hi Michael, I'm not sure about the glyph you're talking about. I found two: \version "2.19.45" purcell = ^\markup\stencil #(make-path-stencil '(M -0.20 0.05 L 1.55 0.51 M -0.31 0.43 L 1.45 0.90 ;; uncomment the line hereunder if necessary: ;; M -0.69 -0.10 L -1.1

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Did anybody ever come up with a way to draw the shake from Purcell in Lilypond? I'm trying to typeset something from the book cited in the top post, and my skills are not up to the task. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/17th-century-English-kbd-ornaments-tp

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On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 8:29 PM, David Rogers wrote: > "Phil Holmes" writes: > > > It would certainly be possible and fairly simple to create glyphs like > > this. We would need to be careful about naming, since a shake is > > generally something else. > > ... > I guess both names "trill" and

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"Phil Holmes" writes: > It would certainly be possible and fairly simple to create glyphs like > this. We would need to be careful about naming, since a shake is > generally something else. There are indeed two quite different things both normally called "shake", one more recent (stereotypically

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Thank you very much Phil. I hadn't noticed this bit of the markup documentation, and it should do the trick. David Griffel On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Phil Holmes-2 [via Lilypond] < ml-node+s1069038n148474...@n5.nabble.com> wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "DavidGriffel" <[hid

Re: 17th century English kbd ornaments

- Original Message - From: "DavidGriffel" To: Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 10:40 AM Subject: 17th century English kbd ornaments I've looked in the lilypond documentation for ornaments like these