Re: Project - Emacs mode extensions for LilyPond

2003-08-03 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Fri, 01 Aug 2003 00:12:05 -0500, Michal a dit : > On 31 Jul 2003 21:18:59 -0400 > Francois wrote: >> >> Would someone have some experience about these two? Does Jack run on top >> of ALSA, or OSS, or something else? What generality are we seeking here? >> Is it theoretical? I mean, wha

Re: Project - Emacs mode extensions for LilyPond

2003-08-02 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Thursday 31 July 2003 09:18 pm, Francois Pinard wrote: > [Ferenc Wagner] > > > 2. Lots of people use sly, which has a different input format and > > is also worth supporting. > > Aaron also mentioned `sly' very recently. What is `sly'? Nothing but the idea of listing lilypond voices in columns

Re: Project - Emacs mode extensions for LilyPond

2003-08-02 Thread François Pinard
[David Raleigh Arnold] > Please stay on user list. Your stuff is lilypond utilities, and many of > us are very interested in it. Although we may miss a lot, I don't think > we will consider keeping up on your progress to be a waste of time or OT, > far from it. Nicolas and I already started to

Re: Project - Emacs mode extensions for LilyPond

2003-08-02 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Thursday 31 July 2003 10:21 pm, Nicolas Sceaux wrote: > Thu, 31 Jul 2003 20:22:10 +0200, Ferenc a dit : > > Francois Pinard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> [Nicolas Sceaux] > >> > >>> [if this conversation does not interest other people, > >>> maybe we should go on privately?] > >> > >>

Fw: Re: Project - Emacs mode extensions for LilyPond

2003-08-02 Thread Michal Seta
Begin forwarded message: Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 15:24:31 +0200 From: Nicolas Sceaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Michal Seta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Project - Emacs mode extensions for LilyPond Fri, 01 Aug 2003 00:12:05 -0500, Michal a dit : > On 31 Jul 2003 21:18:59 -0

Re: Project - Emacs mode extensions for LilyPond

2003-08-01 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Aaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Rosegarden and muse and pd and fluidsynth are all jack > clients and midi apps. I had a look at fluidsynth; it seems to be able to output through Jack (which is nice) and get input from the ALSA sequencer as a client. This is very important (*), but has nothin

Re: Project - Emacs mode extensions for LilyPond

2003-07-31 Thread Michal Seta
On 31 Jul 2003 21:18:59 -0400 Francois wrote: > > Would someone have some experience about these two? Does Jack run on top > of ALSA, or OSS, or something else? What generality are we seeking here? > Is it theoretical? I mean, what would be the practical advantages of > using Jack over ALSA?

Re: Project - Emacs mode extensions for LilyPond

2003-07-31 Thread Aaron
On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 04:18, Francois Pinard wrote: > [Ferenc Wagner] > > > 2. Lots of people use sly, which has a different input format and is > > also worth supporting. > > Aaron also mentioned `sly' very recently. What is `sly'? > > > 1. Instead of ALSA you could target something more gener

Re: Project - Emacs mode extensions for LilyPond

2003-07-31 Thread Aaron
On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 05:14, Ferenc Wagner wrote: > Ferenc Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Sorry, for being imprecise, it is http://jackit.sf.net. > > And, after some poking around, it seems like Jack does not > offer much for MIDI applications. funny Rosegarden and muse and pd and flui

Re: Project - Emacs mode extensions for LilyPond

2003-07-31 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Ferenc Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sorry, for being imprecise, it is http://jackit.sf.net. And, after some poking around, it seems like Jack does not offer much for MIDI applications. Just ignore it and go for the ALSA sequencer driver. Sorry for the distraction.

Re: Project - Emacs mode extensions for LilyPond

2003-07-31 Thread Francois Pinard
[Ferenc Wagner] > 2. Lots of people use sly, which has a different input format and is > also worth supporting. Aaron also mentioned `sly' very recently. What is `sly'? > 1. Instead of ALSA you could target something more general, like Jack > for instance. I recently noticed Jack (the name) wh

Re: Project - Emacs mode extensions for LilyPond

2003-07-31 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Nicolas Sceaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> 1. Instead of ALSA you could target something more general, >> like Jack for instance. > > I don't know Jack, do have you any pointer? Googling Jack gives too > much rubbish :) Sorry, for being imprecise, it is http://jackit.sf.net.

Re: Project - Emacs mode extensions for LilyPond

2003-07-31 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Thu, 31 Jul 2003 20:22:10 +0200, Ferenc a dit : > Francois Pinard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> [Nicolas Sceaux] >> >>> [if this conversation does not interest other people, >>> maybe we should go on privately?] >> >> OK. Let's do that, and see what comes out of it. We >> spoke enou

Re: Project - Emacs mode extensions for LilyPond

2003-07-31 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Francois Pinard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [Nicolas Sceaux] > >> [if this conversation does not interest other people, >> maybe we should go on privately?] > > OK. Let's do that, and see what comes out of it. We > spoke enough publicly for interested people to have shown > up by now. :-) I a

Re: Project - Emacs mode extensions for LilyPond

2003-07-31 Thread Francois Pinard
[Nicolas Sceaux] > [if this conversation does not interest other people, maybe we should > go on privately?] OK. Let's do that, and see what comes out of it. We spoke enough publicly for interested people to have shown up by now. :-) -- François Pinard http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~pinard

Re: Project - Emacs mode extensions for LilyPond

2003-07-31 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
31 Jul 2003 09:05:41 -0400, Francois Pinard a dit : > [...] > Experimenting a bit more, I saw a few tiny problems in this area: > 1) Interpretation of played notes is absolute octave, even when notation is >relative, and in relative octave mode. Is it an experimenter's error? I think

Re: Project - Emacs mode extensions for LilyPond

2003-07-31 Thread Francois Pinard
[Aaron] > http://sourceforge.net/projects/vim-python/ > could you glance at this and see what it does?? It seems like an empty project meant to eventually document Python facilities for VIM. Grrr! Many Sourceforge project pages are full of nothing. (Not to say that I have a few Sourceforge pr

Re: Project - Emacs mode extensions for LilyPond

2003-07-31 Thread Francois Pinard
[Nicolas Sceaux] > > [...] I was peeking around to find how one could use Timidity as a > > server: and it seems you did it all already! :-) > This is the ugliest part, but its merit is that it works :) And God yes, it does work. To my surprise, I confess; would you ever forgive me? :-) It's

Re: Project - Emacs mode extensions for LilyPond

2003-07-31 Thread Aaron
The ability to hear the notes as you type would change the whole nature of creating lilyfiles. I think that if there was a way to do this not specific to a specific text editor it would be even more valuable. I am at present forced to use vim but as hebrew support improves I may switch to emacs...

Re: Project - Emacs mode extensions for LilyPond

2003-07-31 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
30 Jul 2003 18:11:36 -0400, Francois Pinard a dit : >> I am interested in whatever makes lilypond editing faster in Emacs. >> [...] if you can provide something more robust, with more features, >> or that makes me quicker for typesetting, I'll adopt it! > Exactly the same here -- I'm not es

Re: Project - Emacs mode extensions for LilyPond

2003-07-31 Thread Aaron
HI vim-python http://sourceforge.net/projects/vim-python/ could you glance at this and see what it does?? Thanks Aaron On Wed, 2003-07-30 at 19:58, François Pinard wrote: > [Aaron] > > > What is pymacs?? > > A tool which allows Emacs to be scripted in Python, not only in Lisp. > > > Is there a

Re: Project - Emacs mode extensions for LilyPond

2003-07-30 Thread Francois Pinard
[Nicolas Sceaux] > Bonjour François, Salut Nicolas! Notre langue est de la musique pour mes yeux! :-) > [1] http://nicolas.sceaux.free.fr/lilypond/lyqi.html Wow! Sounds quite interesting. I'll surely take a closer look. Thanks a lot for providing this pointer. > I am interested in whatever

Re: Project - Emacs mode extensions for LilyPond

2003-07-30 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Bonjour François, 30 Jul 2003 10:51:29 -0400, tu as dit : > Hello, LilyPond friends. > Two days ago, I started a Pymacs[1] extension to Emacs LilyPond mode. I > want some framework to fill a few personal LilyPond editing needs. > [description] > Even it this shows possible directions, I

Project - Emacs mode extensions for LilyPond

2003-07-30 Thread François Pinard
Hello, LilyPond friends. Two days ago, I started a Pymacs[1] extension to Emacs LilyPond mode. I want some framework to fill a few personal LilyPond editing needs. To get me started, I added a few Emacs keys for altering an Emacs region of a LilyPond score. These can change relative pitch notat