Re: Producing scores for visually impaired and blind people

2019-09-14 Thread Jacques Menu
David,Braille music has alterations and all elements needed do indicate what is to be played, as well as specific repetition devices to avoid having to read again a fragment that was present before.There’s also a clef indication, to simplify communication with sighted musicians. It is optional, sin

Re: Producing scores for visually impaired and blind people

2019-09-14 Thread Vaughan McAlley
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 at 23:38, Karlin High wrote: > > On 9/14/2019 8:32 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > > That's not "learning by ear" but "playing by ear". > > Ah, I can only imagine... > > "Here's a recording of the Tallis Scholars doing 'Spem In Alium.' Your > job is to lean the Baritone 6 part from

Re: Producing scores for visually impaired and blind people

2019-09-14 Thread Karlin High
On 9/14/2019 8:32 AM, David Kastrup wrote: That's not "learning by ear" but "playing by ear". Ah, I can only imagine... "Here's a recording of the Tallis Scholars doing 'Spem In Alium.' Your job is to lean the Baritone 6 part from it. Go." -- Karlin High Missouri, USA __

Re: Producing scores for visually impaired and blind people

2019-09-14 Thread David Kastrup
Wols Lists writes: > On 14/09/19 10:50, David Kastrup wrote: >> Also I would imagine that learning by ear is pretty tricky for ensemble >> rather than solo work. > > Probably no harder than anything else ... I'm bad at remembering stuff, > but years ago I was told I had to learn a piece by heart

Re: Producing scores for visually impaired and blind people

2019-09-14 Thread J Martin Rushton via lilypond-user
On 13/09/2019 21:03, Karlin High wrote: > On 9/13/2019 2:52 PM, Hwaen Ch'uqi wrote: >> But I wonder if, now 200 years later, some of >> that bulk could be streamlined. > > Here is a thread from November 2017, with a new user introduction from > Daniel Chavez. A blind musician using LilyPond to mak

Re: Producing scores for visually impaired and blind people

2019-09-14 Thread Wols Lists
On 14/09/19 10:50, David Kastrup wrote: > Also I would imagine that learning by ear is pretty tricky for ensemble > rather than solo work. Probably no harder than anything else ... I'm bad at remembering stuff, but years ago I was told I had to learn a piece by heart because we were playing on st

Re: Producing scores for visually impaired and blind people

2019-09-14 Thread David Kastrup
Dirk Koopman writes: > There is something called "Music Braille", invented by the man > himself. But, I am reliably informed by an ex-chairman of the RNIB (a > fine tenor) that it really is too much trouble to use because it is a) > verbose b) requires a spare hand that would otherwise be playing

Re: Producing scores for visually impaired and blind people

2019-09-13 Thread Dirk Koopman
There is something called "Music Braille", invented by the man himself. But, I am reliably informed by an ex-chairman of the RNIB (a fine tenor) that it really is too much trouble to use because it is a) verbose b) requires a spare hand that would otherwise be playing the instrument and c) is m

Re: Producing scores for visually impaired and blind people

2019-09-13 Thread Hwaen Ch'uqi
Greetings Karlin, Braille music does indeed exist, though significant variation in its structure and even syntax persists despite attempts at standardization. The main difference between Braille music and printed music is that the former is not in any wise spatial. One benefit of this is that stem

Re: Producing scores for visually impaired and blind people

2019-09-13 Thread Karlin High
On 9/13/2019 2:52 PM, Hwaen Ch'uqi wrote: But I wonder if, now 200 years later, some of that bulk could be streamlined. Here is a thread from November 2017, with a new user introduction from Daniel Chavez. A blind musician using LilyPond to make sheet music for sighted people.

Re: Producing scores for visually impaired and blind people

2019-09-13 Thread Hwaen Ch'uqi
Greetings Jacques, In truth, I hardly think the idea is silly. In fact, if my limited historical knowledge of Braille generally is correct, something like this was done before Napoleon's martial code was adapted by Louis Braille. The drawback at that time was the sheer volume of a text and thus it

Producing scores for visually impaired and blind people

2019-09-13 Thread Jacques Menu
Hello folks, I’ve thought of a possibility which surely others have already considered, and I’m not sure whether the idea makes sense at all. This would consist in printing LilyPond scores in 3D on thin plates, analog to was was done at the time when engravers built scores with pieces of metal.