Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-13 Thread Wols Lists
On 13/07/17 20:55, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 11 Jul 2017 at 09:08:07 (-0400), Kieren MacMillan wrote: >> Hi Wol, >> >>> I've seen music - not much admittedly - that actually writes crotchets >>> as tied to a semi-quaver or something on the next beat in order to say >>> "this one-beat note is one

Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-13 Thread David Wright
On Tue 11 Jul 2017 at 09:08:07 (-0400), Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi Wol, > > > I've seen music - not much admittedly - that actually writes crotchets > > as tied to a semi-quaver or something on the next beat in order to say > > "this one-beat note is one beat, not a fraction of a beat!" > > The

Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Wol, > You keep on going on about "the moment" in the music, and I know what > you mean - you mean the point *on the paper* where the note is printed. According to 99% of Western musical notation, that's the point at which the note begins. > To me, "the moment" "obviously" :-) means the mome

Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-11 Thread Wols Lists
On 10/07/17 21:18, Kieren MacMillan wrote: >> a tempo mark always belongs *after* a rehearsal mark if they collide > In my opinion, a tempo mark belongs exactly over the moment it affects, and > all other marks need to move (horizontally, vertically, or both) around it. > It struck me, actually,

Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-10 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Wol (et al.), > No. I just view a markup block as exactly that - a block. The problem is, given enough horizontal offset, eventually the reader can't tell what's part of the original block and what's a new chunk [based over a new moment]. Vertical stacking doesn't have that potential ambigui

Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-10 Thread Wols Lists
On 10/07/17 18:35, Simon Albrecht wrote: > On 10.07.2017 15:41, Wols Lists wrote: >> On 09/07/17 21:20, Simon Albrecht wrote: >>> On 09.07.2017 21:21, Wols Lists wrote: Maybe, but placing all related marks one after the other is just as semantically correct as placing them one on top of t

Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-10 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 10.07.2017 15:41, Wols Lists wrote: On 09/07/17 21:20, Simon Albrecht wrote: On 09.07.2017 21:21, Wols Lists wrote: Maybe, but placing all related marks one after the other is just as semantically correct as placing them one on top of the other ... That’s nonsense, and it is for the same re

Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-10 Thread Wols Lists
On 10/07/17 14:58, Karlin High wrote: > On 7/10/2017 8:41 AM, Wols Lists wrote: >> given that they typically go up to a rehearsal mark somewhere near S or P, >> and I've known AA and beyond > > This sounds like over 26 rehearsal marks. And elsewhere this thread says > the audience's ideal paper

Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-10 Thread caagr98
E-ink displays are supposed to be just like normal paper, aren't they? On 07/10/2017 03:43 PM, Wols Lists wrote: On 10/07/17 14:28, Karlin High wrote: On 7/9/2017 2:16 PM, Wols Lists wrote: But out in the park, it was hard to stop the music blowing everywhere That DOES sound like a problem.

Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-10 Thread Wols Lists
On 10/07/17 14:28, Karlin High wrote: > On 7/9/2017 2:16 PM, Wols Lists wrote: >> But out in the park, it was hard to stop the music blowing everywhere > That DOES sound like a problem. I've read of people using electronic > displays such as tablets or e-readers for displaying sheet music. > Ide

Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-10 Thread Wols Lists
On 09/07/17 21:20, Simon Albrecht wrote: > On 09.07.2017 21:21, Wols Lists wrote: >> On 09/07/17 20:06, Flaming Hakama by Elaine wrote: >>> > How can I move the texts to be next to the rehearsal mark >>> (without >>> manual adjustments)? >>> >>> Well, you are asking for a manual change (d

Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-09 Thread caagr98
On 07/09/2017 11:07 PM, Thomas Morley wrote: Hi, please always post an (minimal) example demonstrating the problem. I wasted some minutes to reproduce your first problem. But I was annoyed not being able to do so. Hence I decided to try solving the problem instead of continuing finding an code-e

Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-09 Thread Thomas Morley
2017-07-09 18:24 GMT+02:00 : > As you can see on the screenshot, both texts are misaligned. The first one, > a \tempo, is placed *under* the rehearsal mark instead of next to it. The > second one, the name of a song, is too far too the right, since it's > attached to the note instead of the barlin

Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-09 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 09.07.2017 21:21, Wols Lists wrote: On 09/07/17 20:06, Flaming Hakama by Elaine wrote: > How can I move the texts to be next to the rehearsal mark (without manual adjustments)? Well, you are asking for a manual change (due to a non-standard placement of tempo), so please expect all

Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-09 Thread caagr98
I guess I'll just have to go with EditionEngraver. The main reason I didn't use it before was that I couldn't figure out how to install it, but I managed to figure that out. On 07/09/2017 07:38 PM, Simon Albrecht wrote: On 09.07.2017 18:24, caag...@gmail.com wrote: As you can see on the scree

Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-09 Thread Wols Lists
On 09/07/17 20:06, Flaming Hakama by Elaine wrote: > > > Le 9 juil. 2017 à 18:24, caag...@gmail.com > a écrit : > > > > As you can see on the screenshot, both texts are misaligned. The > first one, a \tempo, is placed *under* the rehearsal mark instea

Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-09 Thread David Wright
On Sun 09 Jul 2017 at 12:06:05 (-0700), Flaming Hakama by Elaine wrote: > > Le 9 juil. 2017 à 18:24, caag...@gmail.com a écrit : > > > > As you can see on the screenshot, both texts are misaligned. The first > one, a \tempo, is placed *under* the rehearsal mark instead of next to it. > > > Anothe

Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-09 Thread Wols Lists
On 09/07/17 19:28, Simon Albrecht wrote: > On 09.07.2017 20:01, Wols Lists wrote: >> On 09/07/17 18:38, Simon Albrecht wrote: >>> On 09.07.2017 18:24, caag...@gmail.com wrote: As you can see on the screenshot, both texts are misaligned. >>> That’s your opinion. >> See below. The result can EAS

Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-09 Thread David Wright
On Sun 09 Jul 2017 at 20:28:56 (+0200), Simon Albrecht wrote: > On 09.07.2017 20:01, Wols Lists wrote: > >On 09/07/17 18:38, Simon Albrecht wrote: > >>On 09.07.2017 18:24, caag...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>As you can see on the screenshot, both texts are misaligned. > >>That’s your opinion. > >See belo

Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-09 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 09.07.2017 20:01, Wols Lists wrote: On 09/07/17 18:38, Simon Albrecht wrote: On 09.07.2017 18:24, caag...@gmail.com wrote: As you can see on the screenshot, both texts are misaligned. That’s your opinion. See below. The result can EASILY be unplayable music ... What an exaggeration. The

Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-09 Thread Wols Lists
On 09/07/17 18:38, Simon Albrecht wrote: > On 09.07.2017 18:24, caag...@gmail.com wrote: >> As you can see on the screenshot, both texts are misaligned. > > That’s your opinion. See below. The result can EASILY be unplayable music ... > >> The first one, a \tempo, is placed *under* the rehearsal

Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-09 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 09.07.2017 18:24, caag...@gmail.com wrote: As you can see on the screenshot, both texts are misaligned. That’s your opinion. The first one, a \tempo, is placed *under* the rehearsal mark instead of next to it. Well, both are placed exactly according to standard conventions: the center o

Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-09 Thread caagr98
On 07/09/2017 06:29 PM, Jacques Menu Muzhic wrote: > Hello caagr98, > > The second score in the example below can help you solve the first issue. > > JM. That makes them aligned vertically, which I'm not too bothered about. It doesn't help with horizontal alignment, though On 07/09/2017 06:30

Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-09 Thread Wols Lists
On 09/07/17 17:24, caag...@gmail.com wrote: > As you can see on the screenshot, both texts are misaligned. The first > one, a \tempo, is placed *under* the rehearsal mark instead of next to > it. The second one, the name of a song, is too far too the right, since > it's attached to the note instead

Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-09 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
And this one for the second issue: \version "2.19.44" \paper { % First page spacing after header markup-system-spacing.padding = #6 % Subsequent page spacing after header top-system-spacing.minimum-distance = #18 % Spacing in between systems system-system-spacing.minimum-distance

Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-09 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
Hello caagr98, The second score in the example below can help you solve the first issue. JM. \version "2.17.19" { \markLengthOn \mark\default \tempo "This is a really long tempo mark" c''4 d'' e'' f'' \mark\default \tempo 4=60 g'' 1 } \score { << \new MarkLine { \m

Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

2017-07-09 Thread caagr98
As you can see on the screenshot, both texts are misaligned. The first one, a \tempo, is placed *under* the rehearsal mark instead of next to it. The second one, the name of a song, is too far too the right, since it's attached to the note instead of the barline (it's a <>^""). How can I move