Re: Musicology with Lilypond (and now correct attachments ;-)

2019-10-29 Thread mason
On 10/29, Urs Liska wrote: > Well, the LSR website explicitly states that it's contents is in the > public domain. If I read correctly your email this would have to be > considered illegal, especially given that many snippets there are > uploaded not by their original authors but by someone who use

Re: Copyright, was [Re: Musicology with Lilypond (and now correct attachments ; -)]

2019-10-29 Thread David Kastrup
Dick Seabrook writes: > Perhaps we need a "graffiti law" -- that anything written in a public place > or on > someone else's property becomes the property of the public, or owner > respectively. > Otherwise what right do owners have to clean graffiti off their buildings? You are confusing owners

Re: Copyright, was [Re: Musicology with Lilypond (and now correct attachments ;-)]

2019-10-29 Thread Andrew Bernard
Yes, ... international copyright lawyer required for even such a simple thing. In many cases it may be better to put nothing - as the GNU lists do - and let national law deal with problems and interpretation. Whatever you put, some jurisdiction somewhere will find it to be in error, and that just c

Re: Copyright, was [Re: Musicology with Lilypond (and now correct attachments ;-)]

2019-10-29 Thread Dick Seabrook
Perhaps we need a "graffiti law" -- that anything written in a public place or on someone else's property becomes the property of the public, or owner respectively. Otherwise what right do owners have to clean graffiti off their buildings? Dick S. On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 4:06 AM Andrew Bernard w

Re: Copyright, was [Re: Musicology with Lilypond (and now correct attachments ;-)]

2019-10-29 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
though I generally loathe such usage terms, wouldn't some clause in the list's ToS to the effect that use of the list grants some nonexclusive but unrestricted right to copy/use that material alleviate these concerns? Those kinds of clauses are part of every online email service, for example (since

Copyright, was [Re: Musicology with Lilypond (and now correct attachments ;-)]

2019-10-29 Thread Andrew Bernard
You need an international copyright lawyer. This is a fraught topic. On list email, I recently set up a big sophisticated mail server to support GNU Mailman 3 mailing lists, and moved an archive from a previous list with 100,000 posts across. Extensive discussion with my colleagues in that project

Re: Musicology with Lilypond (and now correct attachments ;-)

2019-10-29 Thread Urs Liska
Am 29. Oktober 2019 02:57:30 MEZ schrieb ma...@masonhock.com: >On 10/28, Klaus Blum wrote: >> AFAIK, the public domain licence also applies to anything published >on >> the LY mailing list. I hope that I'm not wrong as I don't intend to >> "steal" other people's code... > >I don't think that lis

Re: Musicology with Lilypond (and now correct attachments ;-)

2019-10-28 Thread mason
On 10/28, Klaus Blum wrote: > AFAIK, the public domain licence also applies to anything published on > the LY mailing list. I hope that I'm not wrong as I don't intend to > "steal" other people's code... I don't think that list users agree to a CLA or otherwise give anyone else the ability to deci

Re: Musicology with Lilypond (and now correct attachments ;-)

2019-10-28 Thread Klaus Blum
Hi everybody, seems like I've missed an interesting discussion today... :) Karsten Reincke-2 wrote > I would like to discuss / learn, how > his function fExtend works. Or does anyone know, how this methods > works? That fExtend function uses code that I've found in another thread on the maili

Re: Musicology with Lilypond (and now correct attachments ;-)

2019-10-28 Thread mason
On 10/28, Karsten Reincke wrote: > The analysis package is a challenge for me: > > a) It is licensed under GPL. I think this is not appropriate for > music. Sure, the GPL is intended for software. For music, a CC license would be more appropriate. The analysis package is pretty clearly software

Re: Musicology with Lilypond (and now correct attachments ;-)

2019-10-28 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Am 29. Oktober 2019 00:04:06 MEZ schrieb David Kastrup : >>Andrew Bernard writes: >> >>> I am finding this thread weird, sorry. There's a huge amount of help >>in the >>> archives of this list in how to install and run openlilylib. A quick >>search >>> would show that. It's a

Re: Musicology with Lilypond (and now correct attachments ;-)

2019-10-28 Thread Urs Liska
Am 29. Oktober 2019 00:04:06 MEZ schrieb David Kastrup : >Andrew Bernard writes: > >> I am finding this thread weird, sorry. There's a huge amount of help >in the >> archives of this list in how to install and run openlilylib. A quick >search >> would show that. It's a sort of FAQ. >> >> Also,

Re: Musicology with Lilypond (and now correct attachments ;-)

2019-10-28 Thread Urs Liska
Am 28. Oktober 2019 19:06:46 MEZ schrieb Karsten Reincke : >Dear Urs, dear Friends > >In general, I've started the adoption of LSR snippet 967 in a >development branch of my harmonyli lib ( >https://github.com/kreincke/harmonyli/tree/develop). This snippet >isvery well designed and written. > >

Re: Musicology with Lilypond (and now correct attachments ;-)

2019-10-28 Thread David Kastrup
Andrew Bernard writes: > I am finding this thread weird, sorry. There's a huge amount of help in the > archives of this list in how to install and run openlilylib. A quick search > would show that. It's a sort of FAQ. > > Also, lilypond is GPL, so does the following mean you are therefore not > a

Re: Musicology with Lilypond (and now correct attachments ;-)

2019-10-28 Thread Andrew Bernard
I am finding this thread weird, sorry. There's a huge amount of help in the archives of this list in how to install and run openlilylib. A quick search would show that. It's a sort of FAQ. Also, lilypond is GPL, so does the following mean you are therefore not able to even use the program Karsten?

Re: Musicology with Lilypond (and now correct attachments ;-)

2019-10-28 Thread Karsten Reincke
Dear Urs, dear Friends In general, I've started the adoption of LSR snippet 967 in a development branch of my harmonyli lib ( https://github.com/kreincke/harmonyli/tree/develop). This snippet isvery well designed and written. [...] > Klaus Blum is listed in that LSR snippet as the author, and h

Re: Musicology with Lilypond (and now correct attachments ;-)

2019-10-27 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
> Am 2019-10-28 um 00:52 schrieb Urs Liska : > >> It's "public domain" >> http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/html/whatsthis.html >> >> Maybe LSR should better use GPL 3, not this deprecated one. >> https://creativecommons.org/licenses/publicdomain > > I've read that there are jurisdictions where there

Re: Musicology with Lilypond (and now correct attachments ;-)

2019-10-27 Thread Urs Liska
28. Oktober 2019 00:44, "Thomas Morley" schrieb: > Am Mo., 28. Okt. 2019 um 00:22 Uhr schrieb Karsten Reincke > : > >> BUT THERE IS A LICENSE QUESTION (very important in the area of free >> software!) The example shown if you click on the graphik of >> http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=967 does

Re: Musicology with Lilypond (and now correct attachments ;-)

2019-10-27 Thread Urs Liska
28. Oktober 2019 00:21, "Karsten Reincke" schrieb: > Dear Urs; > > Many thanks for this quick and exhaustive answer! Let me briefly > answer: > > 1) As long as lilypond-book has to be called at first and replaces the > lilypond code in the LaTeX files by a section including the > corresponding

Re: Musicology with Lilypond (and now correct attachments ;-)

2019-10-27 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Mo., 28. Okt. 2019 um 00:22 Uhr schrieb Karsten Reincke : > BUT THERE IS A LICENSE QUESTION (very important in the area of free > software!) The example shown if you click on the graphik of > http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=967 does not contain any license > information. Does anyone know the

Re: Musicology with Lilypond (and now correct attachments ;-)

2019-10-27 Thread Karsten Reincke
Dear Urs; Many thanks for this quick and exhaustive answer! Let me briefly answer: 1) As long as lilypond-book has to be called at first and replaces the lilypond code in the LaTeX files by a section including the corresponding picture, none LaTeX code can be combined with the Lilypond code. And

Re: Musicology with Lilypond (and now correct attachments ;-)

2019-10-27 Thread Urs Liska
Oops, forgot to CC the list. But one more remark: You may have a look at the thread starting with https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2019-04/msg00335.html and there especially the ZIP archive attached to https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2019-04/msg00351.html which

Musicology with Lilypond (and now correct attachments ;-)

2019-10-27 Thread Karsten Reincke
Dear Friends; Musicologists need more than writing pure music scores. They must be able to embed the score of music samples into their scientific texts. And they must be able to integrate the symbols of the functional harmony theory into the score of their music samples. For using Lilypond with L