Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 17:05:29 -0500 Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's where I get baffled. (A priori) I don't know that these > settings exist and when I search on vertical spacing (within a > system) in the documentation, I am not directed to these settings. I > certainly do understand why

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-06 Thread Reilly
Hi Kieren, On Jan 3, 2008, at 12:39 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: I have easily spent 10 times the amount of time studying Lilypond and understand only 1/10th of what I can do in LaTeX. This may be because LaTeX includes *significantly* more (and more complex) macros which sit on top of (Pl

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-04 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/1/4, Kieren MacMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > For future reference, I don't read or respond to posts which begin > with such ludicrous and intentionally irritating statements... Hi everybody, hi Kieren, I think there's some kind of a misunderstanding here... I thought everybody on this list

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 15:18:07 -0500 Kieren MacMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Graham, > > > They're not. They're supposed to be useful. > > Because instruction isn't useful? > For future reference, I don't read or respond to posts which begin > with such ludicrous and intentionally irrita

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-04 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Graham, They're not. They're supposed to be useful. Because instruction isn't useful? For future reference, I don't read or respond to posts which begin with such ludicrous and intentionally irritating statements... Regards, Kieren. ___ lily

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 13:50:14 -0500 Kieren MacMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And you don't need explanations. > > I disagree! > > 1. If these are meant in any way to be instructive (like most, if > not all, of the LSR!), then there *must* be internal documentation. They're not. They're su

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-04 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Le 3 janv. 08 à 21:31, Valentin Villenave a écrit : [...] Mmm... I'll still wait for a few days and see if the author has anything to say on this topic :) Plus, it would be great to add a few actual notes to demonstrate its use (I'd be happy to use the 'real_music' tag just once more :) I was

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-03 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 03.01.2008 (13:50), Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi Graham, >> And you don't need explanations. > > I disagree! Me too. For the reasons Kieren gives, and - >> Do normal LaTeX users ever look at the details of packages? > > I do... but then again, I'm not "normal". - the follow-up question: ARE t

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-03 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/1/3, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > No, no! Don't split it up. And you don't need explanations. At > laest, not for what I'm thinking. > > (NB: I haven't even glanced at whatever we're talking about) Err... IIRC we're talking about maybe 5000 lines of code here. Nicolas himself ha

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-03 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Graham, Don't split it up. I partially agree. And you don't need explanations. I disagree! 1. If these are meant in any way to be instructive (like most, if not all, of the LSR!), then there *must* be internal documentation. 2. If these are meant to be combined, then they need docume

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 19:05:36 +0100 "Valentin Villenave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/1/3, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > We also now have the perfect place for these stylesheets: LSR. If > > there's any interest in this, we'll add a tag specifically for > > stylesheets (or module

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-03 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi y'all: I'll add that this lack of stylesheets is due to users not creating them, not a lack of technical support. I figured that was the case, but it's nice to get "official" confirmation! =) It just requires a helpful user to create the stylesheet. Coincidentally, I've recently bee

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-03 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/1/3, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > We also now have the perfect place for these stylesheets: LSR. If > there's any interest in this, we'll add a tag specifically for > stylesheets (or modules or packages or whatever we want to call > them). These snippets would be just like LaTeX

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:39:58 -0500 Kieren MacMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The benefit of LaTeX, coupled with whatever documentclass and > packages you use, is that you don't NEED to access the code at that > level. > Lilypond just doesn't have those abstracted stylesheets. I'll add that

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-03 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Jeremiah, Once again (and again), thank you for your advice. =) In the particular instance above, however, I am not sure how I would *know* to replace \GrandStaff with \InnerStaffGroup. See next paragrraph below. Okay... I think I'm beginning to understand your issue(s). (1) Last ye

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-03 Thread Graham Percival
1. Look at the GDP docs: http://web.uvic.ca/~gperciva/ 2. Specifically, the Learning Manual 3 Fundamental concepts. Probably 4 Tweaking output as well. Trevor Daniels has spent dozens of hours working on these chapters. 3. If you have any improvements, please send them. Cheers, - Graham On Thu

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-03 Thread Jeremiah Reilly
Kieren, Once again (and again), thank you for your advice. On Sunday, December 30, 2007, at 12:47 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: How can I figure out "new" code to solve "new" problems when I don't know the code exists? I have learned essentially everything I know by looking at the exampl

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2007-12-30 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Jeremiah, Thank you TWICE over for your help. You're twice-over welcome! =) Your code worked perfectly. I try my best... Very frustrating! (This is a rhetorical question; no response necessary.) Decided to respond anyway! How can I figure out "new" code to solve "new" problems whe

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2007-12-28 Thread Reilly
Kieren, Thank you TWICE over for your help. Your code worked perfectly. I compared it to my trial code and this is what you added: On Dec 27, 2007, at 9:34 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: \context { \InnerStaffGroup

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2007-12-27 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Jeremiah, Thank you for your advice (and ALL your many helpful comments in the Lilypond archive). My pleasure! I have been able to Start my systems exactly the way I want to Excellent. How do I name InnerStaffGroup s? Hopefully the example code (below) will help. Best wishes, Kier

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2007-12-26 Thread Reilly
Kieran, Thank you for your advice (and ALL your many helpful comments in the Lilypond archive). On Dec 22, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hey there! Questions: Is there a better, easier, more logical, more consistent solution with better layout? Have I missed a staff-group co

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2007-12-22 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hey there! Questions: Is there a better, easier, more logical, more consistent solution with better layout? Have I missed a staff-group command for nestled groups (but using the system start delimiters of my choice)? I'm assuming you know about InnerStaffGroup? Certainly that's what I wo

Instrumental Group Names in Score

2007-12-22 Thread Reilly
Foremost, a BIG thank-you to everyone who has written, developed, tweaked, and improved Lilypond and to everyone who has answered questions on the Lilypond Users Group. I am preparing a score in Lilypond for full orchestra and want to use my customary layout (system starts, naming, etc.). In