Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 07:42:34PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > Il giorno mer, 01/08/2012 alle 20.51 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > > I was particularly thinking of the download links and links to > > docs (on both the Downloads page and the Development page). That > > needs to do build nu

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-03 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mer, 01/08/2012 alle 20.51 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > I was particularly thinking of the download links and links to > docs (on both the Downloads page and the Development page). That > needs to do build number -> python -> texinfo macros -> html. But > at least it's fully deb

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 08:10:26PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > Il giorno mer, 01/08/2012 alle 18.08 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > > The first step is to make it > > work in "make website", which is infinitely easier than trying > > to do anything in GUB. This is a relatively easy thi

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mer, 01/08/2012 alle 18.08 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > Hmm. I can't answer this directly, but I'll pass along my > considerations: > > - if you try to compile GUB on debian unstable (or any other > recent distro), you will likely encounter odd compile failures. > These are

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mer, 01/08/2012 alle 19.26 +0200, David Kastrup ha scritto: > Build numbers are not all that relevant for _us_ as far as I can tell. > They distinguish different versions compiled from the _same_ canonical > source (so they don't belong into our VERSION file at any rate). > Changes may be

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > Hmm. I can't answer this directly, but I'll pass along my > considerations: > > - if you try to compile GUB on debian unstable (or any other > recent distro), you will likely encounter odd compile failures. > These are important to fix at some point in time (otherwi

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 06:36:14PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > Il giorno mer, 01/08/2012 alle 15.52 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > > Regardless of the question of having a tuple of four values, it > > would be nice to support build numbers, i.e. 2.15.43-2: > > http://code.google.com/p/lily

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mer, 01/08/2012 alle 15.52 +0100, Graham Percival ha scritto: > Regardless of the question of having a tuple of four values, it > would be nice to support build numbers, i.e. 2.15.43-2: > http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=977 > > This definitely requires work in both lil

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 04:15:34PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: > I'm sometimes slow to react (up to one week for making a patch), but I'm > willing to help with version number management in the build system if > this definitely appears to be the route to go with. Regardless of the question of hav

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 03:21:34PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: >> Graham Percival writes: >> >> >> If it is non-operative, it should be either made operative or removed. >> >> There is no point dragging it along as purely dead weight we should not >> >> be using. >> >

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread John Mandereau
Il giorno mer, 01/08/2012 alle 15.21 +0200, David Kastrup ha scritto: > Graham Percival writes: > > On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 02:37:58PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > >> If it is non-operative, it should be either made operative or removed. > >> There is no point dragging it along as purely dead wei

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 03:21:34PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > > >> If it is non-operative, it should be either made operative or removed. > >> There is no point dragging it along as purely dead weight we should not > >> be using. > > > > Sure, patches appreciated. >

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 02:37:58PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: >> Graham Percival writes: >> >> >> What versioning should I be using for the release >> >> candidates? Numerically, one has the options to start with >> >> >> >> 2.15.95 >> > >> > why not 2.15.42 ? >> >>

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 02:37:58PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > > >> What versioning should I be using for the release > >> candidates? Numerically, one has the options to start with > >> > >> 2.15.95 > > > > why not 2.15.42 ? > > Because the 2.16 branch is supposed t

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 12:31:55PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> At the time the 2.16 branch will be cut, the versioning for the unstable >> branch will need to advance to 2.17 in order to maintain an ordered >> relation between version numbers and LilyPond language

Re: GOP2-2b - Stable 2.16.x releases (dictator) (probable decision)

2012-08-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 12:31:55PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > > At the time the 2.16 branch will be cut, the versioning for the unstable > branch will need to advance to 2.17 in order to maintain an ordered > relation between version numbers and LilyPond language. Do you mean 2.16 instead of 2