Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 11:37:37AM +0200, Valentin Villenave wrote: > On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Graham Percival > wrote: > > Those are extremely good points.  In the interests of a full > > discussion (on a separate mailist, to avoid cluttering -devel), > > May I suggest http://lists.lilyn

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-12 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > Those are extremely good points.  In the interests of a full > discussion (on a separate mailist, to avoid cluttering -devel), May I suggest http://lists.lilynet.net/proposals/ ? Cheers, Valentin

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 10:08:02PM +0100, Neil Puttock wrote: > 2009/9/4 Carl Sorensen : > > > setInstrumentName = > > #(define-music-function (parser location instrument-name) (string?) > >  #{ > >    \set Staff.instrumentName = $instrument-name > >  #}) > > I'm not in favour of this type of sub

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-06 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/9/4 Carl Sorensen : > And perhaps we should avoid the \set Staff.instrumentName tweaks by defining > a \setInstrumentName command > > setInstrumentName = > #(define-music-function (parser location instrument-name) (string?) >  #{ >    \set Staff.instrumentName = $instrument-name >  #}) > > Th

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-05 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/4/09 10:37 AM, "Joseph Wakeling" wrote: > Trevor Daniels wrote: >>> In order to have a >>> meaningful manual, this may require the addition of some new LilyPond >>> commands, which is *not* a problem. >> >> And is to be recommended if it results in an >> easier user interface. > > I do

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Friday, September 04, 2009 11:57 PM On 9/4/09 10:27 AM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: Carl Sorensen wrote" Friday, September 04, 2009 3:06 PM Also, as you plan sections, remember that anything using \set or \override belongs in a snippet, not in the main text body. This

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Saturday, September 05, 2009 1:22 AM my Windows hard drive tragically fried last week, and I won't be able to do any LilyPond work until next Wednesday at the earliest, and that's when my work starts up again, so I may be delayed quite a bit. That's a bummer - I was wonder

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-04 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Mark Polesky wrote: > I've already done a ton of work on keyboard tone-clusters > and percussion pictograms, but my Windows hard drive > tragically fried last week, and I won't be able to do any > LilyPond work until next Wednesday at the earliest, and > that's when my work starts up again, so I ma

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-04 Thread Mark Polesky
Joseph Wakeling wrote: > (i) Would people be interested in having this in the docs? > > (ii) Any requests or suggestions for topics that should be covered? > >(iii) What are the restrictions on including examples from actual > contemporary scores? I'm not thinking huge ext

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 04:57:11PM -0600, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > On 9/4/09 10:27 AM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: > > Carl Sorensen wrote" Friday, September 04, 2009 > > 3:06 PM > >> Also, as you plan sections, remember that anything using \set or > >> \override > >> belongs in a snippet, not in th

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-04 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/4/09 10:27 AM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: > > > Carl Sorensen wrote" Friday, September 04, 2009 > 3:06 PM >> >> Also, as you plan sections, remember that anything using \set or >> \override >> belongs in a snippet, not in the main text body. > > This certainly is a rule for NR 1, but is

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-04 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Trevor Daniels wrote: >> In order to have a >> meaningful manual, this may require the addition of some new LilyPond >> commands, which is *not* a problem. > > And is to be recommended if it results in an > easier user interface. I do have some concrete ideas here, which I'll lay out in an email

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote" Friday, September 04, 2009 3:06 PM Also, as you plan sections, remember that anything using \set or \override belongs in a snippet, not in the main text body. This certainly is a rule for NR 1, but is not absolutely essential for NR 2. But in general you're right - s

Re: Pirate Party [was: Re: Contemporary music documentation]

2009-09-04 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Joseph Wakeling wrote: > On that note ... does the Pirate Party have any kind of official > response to this article by Richard Stallman? > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/pirate-party.html Yes we do (as a matter of fact I am the Pirate member he refers to in the nex

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-04 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Carl Sorensen wrote: > Also, as you plan sections, remember that anything using \set or \override > belongs in a snippet, not in the main text body. In order to have a > meaningful manual, this may require the addition of some new LilyPond > commands, which is *not* a problem. Do you mean in the

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-04 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/4/09 3:36 AM, "Joseph Wakeling" wrote: > Graham Percival wrote: >> Those "actual contemporary scores" must be placed in the public >> domain, licensed under Creative Commons, or licensed under the GNU >> FDL. If you're thinking about an exerpt of Shostakovich or Glass, >> then forget abo

Pirate Party [was: Re: Contemporary music documentation]

2009-09-04 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Valentin Villenave wrote: > [off-topic] btw: French Pirate Party's first election is in two weeks > here, and since I'm the campaign manager that (partly) explains my > lack of time to work on LilyPond ;-) On that note ... does the Pirate Party have any kind of official response to this article by

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-04 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:57 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > Oh, and make sure you vote for your country's Pirate Party. > Branches started recently in the UK and Canada, so I've got my > next elections' votes lined up.  ;) [off-topic] btw: French Pirate Party's first election is in two weeks here, an

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-04 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Graham Percival wrote: > Those "actual contemporary scores" must be placed in the public > domain, licensed under Creative Commons, or licensed under the GNU > FDL. If you're thinking about an exerpt of Shostakovich or Glass, > then forget about it. Blame copyright law[1], not me. Actually I was

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 02:15:50PM +0200, Joseph Wakeling wrote: >(iii) What are the restrictions on including examples from actual > contemporary scores? I'm not thinking huge extracts, but maybe > a couple of bars from a known work just to illustrate how a > partic

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-03 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Trevor Daniels wrote: > Stubs are fine, but make them visible rather than commented out, > perhaps followed by "TBC" (to be completed). You could do this > in the Turkish section too - I'm sure that's what Graham meant. Sure. In that case I just removed stuff because I was fairly sure I wasn't m

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Joseph Wakeling wrote Thursday, September 03, 2009 7:13 PM Trevor Daniels wrote: BTW, slightly tangential, but have you seen section 4.5.5 on Proportional notation, written by Trevor Bača? There would be no need to repeat this. Sure -- I've even tried using that functionality in one or two

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-03 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Trevor Daniels wrote: > BTW, slightly tangential, but have you seen section 4.5.5 on Proportional > notation, written by Trevor Bača? There would be no need to repeat this. Sure -- I've even tried using that functionality in one or two pieces. :-) Incidentally, what's described there is only a s

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Joseph Wakeling wrote Thursday, September 03, 2009 1:15 PM Following my fun experience writing some documentation for makam.ly and Turkish classical music, I'm thinking of writing a section on contemporary music for the Notation Reference. This would join the existing sections of Chapter 2

Re: Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-03 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Bryan Stanbridge wrote: > One thing that's always been a pain to me are the "box" score notations > where a small snippet of music is enclosed in a box, then a dark line > with or without an arrow will run for the duration that the performer is > to repeat the box. I've stayed away from typesetting

Contemporary music documentation

2009-09-03 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Hello all, Following my fun experience writing some documentation for makam.ly and Turkish classical music, I'm thinking of writing a section on contemporary music for the Notation Reference. This would join the existing sections of Chapter 2 on various other forms of specialist notation. The