Fwd: Re: Internet-style quoting (was: A request on behalf of Turkish Music)

2020-04-14 Thread Aaron Hill
Forwarding to the list for visibility... Original Message Subject: Re: Internet-style quoting (was: A request on behalf of Turkish Music) Date: 2020-04-14 4:28 pm From: Carl Sorensen To: Aaron Hill Unfortunately, as is shown in the thread that Aaron refers to in his

Re: A request on behalf of Turkish Music

2020-04-14 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 14 Apr 2020, at 19:27, Adam Good wrote: > > ATTN: Hans... > Going by the chart Emre shared with us, good news, I'm figuring this is not > using a (near) Pythagorean tuning like AEU 53 ET. I'd call it 48 ET. Once we > have the glyphs ready this is very easy to put together. I think it ac

Internet-style quoting (was: A request on behalf of Turkish Music)

2020-04-14 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2020-04-14 12:17 pm, Werner LEMBERG wrote: [Carl, could you somehow improve the layout of your responses? If I view the plain text version of your e-mails, it's completely impossible to differentiate between quoted material and your reply. But even in the HTML version I have such difficult

Re: A request on behalf of Turkish Music

2020-04-14 Thread Werner LEMBERG
[Carl, could you somehow improve the layout of your responses? If I view the plain text version of your e-mails, it's completely impossible to differentiate between quoted material and your reply. But even in the HTML version I have such difficulties... What about using the classic '>' delim

Re: A request on behalf of Turkish Music

2020-04-14 Thread Carl Sorensen
From: Adam Good Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 11:27 AM To: Werner LEMBERG Cc: , Lilypond-user Subject: Re: A request on behalf of Turkish Music Hi everyone, I'm finally chiming in here... On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 8:38 AM Werner LEMBERG mailto:w...@gnu.org>> wrote: Well,

Re: A request on behalf of Turkish Music

2020-04-14 Thread Adam Good
Hi everyone, I'm finally chiming in here... On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 8:38 AM Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > Well, here's the question: Shall we add such glyphs at all? A > cautionary and a digit can easily be combined on the macro level... > In my opinion, the best solution is create glyphs for the a

Re: A request on behalf of Turkish Music

2020-04-09 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2020-04-09 1:59 pm, Noeck wrote: Hi, Am 08.04.20 um 14:38 schrieb Werner LEMBERG: A combination of makam.ly and this definitions.ily should be easy to do. But as Werner said, having them in the Emmentaler font (one way or the other) would be better. Well, here's the question: Shall we a

Re: A request on behalf of Turkish Music

2020-04-09 Thread Noeck
Hi, Am 08.04.20 um 14:38 schrieb Werner LEMBERG: > >> A combination of makam.ly and this definitions.ily should be easy to >> do. But as Werner said, having them in the Emmentaler font (one way >> or the other) would be better. > > Well, here's the question: Shall we add such glyphs at all? Of c

Re: A request on behalf of Turkish Music

2020-04-08 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 8 Apr 2020, at 15:57, neyzenemre wrote: > > I think so In LilyPond, engraving and tuning are tied together, but it can only handle ETs, and only multiples of 12 without a special file regular.ly. So I think, Adam Good settled for E72, which gives neutral seconds of about the same size

Re: A request on behalf of Turkish Music

2020-04-08 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> If a pattern like TFM.LY (Turkish Fol Music) is created, I think it > will be a more rational and progressive solution like MAKAM.LY. I > think the use of numbers for every flat and sharp in the work will > make things more difficult. I don't understand the last sentence. Please elaborate.

Re: A request on behalf of Turkish Music

2020-04-08 Thread neyzenemre
yes A cautionary and a digit can easily be combined on the macro level... If a pattern like TFM.LY (Turkish Fol Music) is created, I think it will be a more rational and progressive solution like MAKAM.LY. I think the use of numbers for every flat and sharp in the work will make things more diffic

Re: A request on behalf of Turkish Music

2020-04-08 Thread neyzenemre
I think so -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html

Re: A request on behalf of Turkish Music

2020-04-08 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 8 Apr 2020, at 11:44, neyzenemre wrote: > > Turkish Folk Music pitch system is used as revealed by Farabi and has a > 17-piece pitch system. From what I can see, it is Pythagorean tuning with comma alterations. Is that what you use?

Re: A request on behalf of Turkish Music

2020-04-08 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> A combination of makam.ly and this definitions.ily should be easy to > do. But as Werner said, having them in the Emmentaler font (one way > or the other) would be better. Well, here's the question: Shall we add such glyphs at all? A cautionary and a digit can easily be combined on the macro

Re: A request on behalf of Turkish Music

2020-04-08 Thread neyzenemre
bravura method is so complex... I think so A combination of makam.ly and this definitions.ily should be easy to do. But as Werner said, having them in the Emmentaler font (one way or the other) would be better. -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html

Re: A request on behalf of Turkish Music

2020-04-08 Thread neyzenemre
? Is it correct that the 'Dort' sharp doesn't have number 4 assigned to it? * Yes it is correct... In the scores of Turkish folk music that you consider as typeset in the highest quality, what font gets used for the digits? * I use also Makemusic Finale with Turkish Trutype fonts which made by

Re: A request on behalf of Turkish Music

2020-04-08 Thread neyzenemre
* Is it correct that the 'Dort' sharp doesn't have number 4 assigned to it? - Yes it is correct. I use Makemusic Finale for writing my scores with special truetype fonts which made by www.neyzen.com -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html

Re: A request on behalf of Turkish Music

2020-04-08 Thread Noeck
FWIW, SMuFL defines these code points and you can see the style in the Bravura font. There is a sharp with the number 5, too. The attachment shows, that they define a fixed glyph combination. The code in bravura-smufl.ly uses the openlilylib/snippets¹ and it requires the Bravura font to be instal

Re: A request on behalf of Turkish Music

2020-04-08 Thread neyzenemre
AEU is the name of Arel-Ezgi-Uzdilek who are the musicologists. The AEU divides an octave into 24 unequal ranges. Since a full voice is calculated as 9 coma, it is thought that there are 53 pitch in the octave. Turkish Folk Music pitch system is used as revealed by Farabi and has a 17-piece pitch

Re: A request on behalf of Turkish Music

2020-04-08 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 8 Apr 2020, at 09:42, Emre PINARBAŞI wrote: > > Hello. I am Associate Professor Emre Pınarbaşı, one of the lecturers of > Samsun Ondokuz Mayıs University State Conservatory. I specialize in > Traditional Turkish Music. I have been writing my notes using Lilypond for > many years. > >

Re: A request on behalf of Turkish Music

2020-04-08 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Hello Emre, > [...] Turkish Folk Music has its own flat and sharps. > > How can I add this fonts/graphs to lilypond system This should be rather easy, I think – however, some information is missing. * Is it correct that the 'Dort' sharp doesn't have number 4 assigned to it? * In the scores

A request on behalf of Turkish Music

2020-04-08 Thread neyzenemre
Hello. I am Associate Professor Emre Pınarbaşı, one of the lecturers of Samsun Ondokuz Mayıs University State Conservatory. I specialize in Traditional Turkish Music. I have been writing my notes using Lilypond for many years. However, the program should expand the MAKAM.LY content a little more

A request on behalf of Turkish Music

2020-04-08 Thread Emre PINARBAŞI
Hello. I am Associate Professor Emre Pınarbaşı, one of the lecturers of Samsun Ondokuz Mayıs University State Conservatory. I specialize in Traditional Turkish Music. I have been writing my notes using Lilypond for many years. However, the program should expand the MAKAM.LY content a little more a