Re: \relative is not the best way of entering complicated music

2013-03-12 Thread David Rogers
Sarah k Alawami writes: > Is there a way to memorize or through pattern recognition how many ' > and , symbols it takes to jump octaves? besides writing down a few > notes and going to the tuneful site to listen to see if I messed up? > as that's what I've been doing and it yeps but it slows me

Re: \relative is not the best way of entering complicated music

2013-03-11 Thread David Kastrup
Sarah k Alawami writes: > Ok. I suck at reading staff lines. I come from braille music where th > eoctive signs are given to me and I sing or play badly the correct > pitches based on the octave mark. You don't need to use \relative if you are more comfortable with absolute pitches. -- David K

Re: \relative is not the best way of entering complicated music

2013-03-11 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Ok. I suck at reading staff lines. I come from braille music where th eoctive signs are given to me and I sing or play badly the correct pitches based on the octave mark. I'll try and give this mental thing a go since I bass in treble anyways around middle c so that might or might not help. l

Re: \relative is not the best way of entering complicated music

2013-03-11 Thread David G
In relative, a note with no ' or , indicates the closest octave, e.g. for adjacent notes a b means the B one note above whatever A it was, d c means the C one note below whatever D it was, Effectively this means that using no ' or , will always produce a note within a fourth of the previous one

Re: \relative is not the best way of entering complicated music

2013-03-10 Thread Nick Payne
On 11/03/13 08:57, Sarah k Alawami wrote: Is there a way to memorize or through pattern recognition how many ' and , symbols it takes to jump octaves? Think of it in terms of staff lines or spaces: a note within a fifth of the previous note doesn't need ' or , to get the correct pitch, with ac

Re: \relative is not the best way of entering complicated music

2013-03-10 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Well I'm used to writing numbers as my theory person had us do for our key board tests so I see c4 and think, Oh middle c on the piano. so that's how I interpreted it in the docs as a middle c not a quarter note. I also misinterpreted the ' symbol to mean a single quote so it literally did mean

Re: \relative is not the best way of entering complicated music

2013-03-10 Thread David Kastrup
Sarah k Alawami writes: > Oh the docs messed up. lol! It was in the notes reference guide at the octave > checks section. > > Here is the example they gave. > > \relative c'' { > c2 d='4 d > e2 f > } > > > so I followed the directions unless I just red it wrong. lol! whichI > probably did

Re: \relative is not the best way of entering complicated music

2013-03-10 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Oh the docs messed up. lol! It was in the notes reference guide at the octave checks section. Here is the example they gave. \relative c'' { c2 d='4 d e2 f } so I followed the directions unless I just red it wrong. lol! whichI probably did as I was rushing to get the assignment done. lo

Re: \relative is not the best way of entering complicated music

2013-03-10 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David (et al.), > a) you can stay with your current usage easily enough Excellent! > b) letting convert-ly change all of your existing files without explicit > instruction would seem inappropriate +1 > c) in \relative { c'' ..., the pitch might not actually be c''. If you > are wired t

Re: \relative is not the best way of entering complicated music

2013-03-10 Thread Wols Lists
On 10/03/13 03:47, Sarah k Alawami wrote: > 'd rather enter in the pitches like they are on a piano starting with c1 > being low c and c8 being very high c all the way to the right of the > keyboard. I assume you're a pianist? I'm not. So a piano-centric naming scheme would be of no use to me

Re: \relative is not the best way of entering complicated music

2013-03-10 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hello all, > > Just thought I'd put my 2¢ in here… > > In the last year alone, I have Lilypounded two stage musicals, a > chamber opera, and about a dozen smaller pieces, with a range of > styles from Alan Menken to Arnold Schoenberg. So I believe I can > qualify as som

Re: \relative is not the best way of entering complicated music

2013-03-10 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello all, Just thought I'd put my 2¢ in here… In the last year alone, I have Lilypounded two stage musicals, a chamber opera, and about a dozen smaller pieces, with a range of styles from Alan Menken to Arnold Schoenberg. So I believe I can qualify as someone who has entered "complicated musi

Re: \relative is not the best way of entering complicated music

2013-03-10 Thread David Kastrup
Colin Hall writes: > Keith OHara writes: > >> It took me years to realize that \relative was making LilyPond more >> difficult >> for me. I very often forget what was the last pitch I typed, >> especially when >> working on a few music expressions in parallel, and even when I do >> remember the >

Re: \relative is not the best way of entering complicated music

2013-03-10 Thread Colin Hall
Keith OHara writes: > It took me years to realize that \relative was making LilyPond more difficult > for me. I very often forget what was the last pitch I typed, especially when > working on a few music expressions in parallel, and even when I do remember > the > burden of deciding if the inter

Re: \relative is not the best way of entering complicated music

2013-03-10 Thread David Kastrup
Sarah k Alawami writes: > I actually tried the let's say e='t or how ever the docs were > written. I don't have them up at the moment and it failed with unknown > rhythm. Iactually meant e5 on the piano. so how would have I fixed > this if I had if I remember > > [relative c'' for middle c if I

Re: \relative is not the best way of entering complicated music

2013-03-09 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I actually tried the let's say e='t or how ever the docs were written. I don't have them up at the moment and it failed with unknown rhythm. Iactually meant e5 on the piano. so how would have I fixed this if I had if I remember [relative c'' for middle c if I remember that to and i place an e=

\relative is not the best way of entering complicated music

2013-03-09 Thread Keith OHara
It took me years to realize that \relative was making LilyPond more difficult for me. I very often forget what was the last pitch I typed, especially when working on a few music expressions in parallel, and even when I do remember the burden of deciding if the interval is a fourth or fifth is distr