2013/1/19 David Kastrup :
> Jim Long writes:
>
>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:19:33AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
>>>
>>> I was just pointing out that LilyPond's default is not all-lunatic.
>>
>> I'd like to eat some crow, as it seems I'm the lunatic in this
>> thread for which I must apologize.
>
Jim Long writes:
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:19:33AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
>>
>> I was just pointing out that LilyPond's default is not all-lunatic.
>
> I'd like to eat some crow, as it seems I'm the lunatic in this
> thread for which I must apologize.
I was not stating that LilyPond's d
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 11:19:33AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
>
> I was just pointing out that LilyPond's default is not all-lunatic.
I'd like to eat some crow, as it seems I'm the lunatic in this
thread for which I must apologize. :( I mis-characterized this
issue based on a mis-recollection o
David Kastrup writes:
> I was just pointing out that LilyPond's default is not all-lunatic.
My apologies if I accidentally said something that suggested that.
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Werner LEMBERG writes:
>> Enclose a passage that is to be played more than once. If there is
>> no left repeat sign, the right repeat sign sends the performer back
>> to the start of the piece or the nearest double bar.
>
> Interesting. This is the first time ever that I've heard about this
> r
> Enclose a passage that is to be played more than once. If there is
> no left repeat sign, the right repeat sign sends the performer back
> to the start of the piece or the nearest double bar.
Interesting. This is the first time ever that I've heard about this
rule w.r.t. the double bar. Actu
Johan Vromans writes:
> According to the common interpretation of the :| symbol, repetition is
> to start at a |: and if there's none, the music must be repeated from the
> beginning -- clearly not what is intended.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_musical_symbols>
Music-repeat.pngR
Jim Long writes:
> I just wanted to increment the tally on Johan's feature request.
I'm utterly surprised by all these reactions... Mostly because noone
seems to agree with me that, in the case of
... \bar "||" \break \repeat ...
not having a "||" at the end of the line and a "|:" at the sta
Am 18.01.2013 09:39, schrieb Johan Vromans:
Marc Hohl writes:
Except that it does not work with \repeat, AFAIK.
Yes, it does.
c1 \bar "||:" \break
\repeat volta 2 { d2 d }
Sorry if I was unclear -- what I meant to say is that IMHO LilyPond
should be able to handle this correctly:
c1 \bar
Marc Hohl writes:
>> Except that it does not work with \repeat, AFAIK.
> Yes, it does.
>
> c1 \bar "||:" \break
> \repeat volta 2 { d2 d }
Sorry if I was unclear -- what I meant to say is that IMHO LilyPond
should be able to handle this correctly:
c1 \bar "||" \break
\repeat volta 2 { d2 d }
Am 18.01.2013 06:03, schrieb Jim Long:
[...]
There is no confusion at all. The source file tells Lilypond
exactly where the double bars should be. Lilypond knows that at
several places, the source code says:
\bar "||" \break
As I understood Johan's suggestion, Lilypond should interpret
that t
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 09:52:14PM -0500, Ralph Palmer wrote:
> >
> > Consider a composition of the form
> >
> > A B A C A D A E
> >
> > The composer requires that each section begin on a new line of
> > the page; and end with a double barline, except the final
> > section:
> >
> > A = { ... \bar "
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Jim Long wrote:
> With respect, I think Johan's point is that along the lines of a
> recent thread about having Lilypond generally 'do the right
> thing' by default while preserving its immense amount of control
> over the details, wouldn't it be a beneficial feat
Am 17.01.2013 23:17, schrieb Jim Long:
> If I understand Johan correctly, he is saying that at some point
> in the future, it would be nice to have Lilypond handle this
> automatically, and put a double barline at the end of each
> section A through D, whether the next section begins with a volta
With respect, I think Johan's point is that along the lines of a
recent thread about having Lilypond generally 'do the right
thing' by default while preserving its immense amount of control
over the details, wouldn't it be a beneficial feature to have
Lilypond handle the situation automatically?
C
Am 17.01.2013 19:56, schrieb Thomas Morley:
2013/1/17 Johan Vromans :
Frank Steinmetzger writes:
Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2013, 08:28:37 schrieb Ralph Palmer:
In addition, you can specify "||:", which is equivalent to "|:" except at
line breaks, where it gives a double bar line at the end o
Am 17.01.2013 19:39, schrieb Johan Vromans:
Frank Steinmetzger writes:
Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2013, 08:28:37 schrieb Ralph Palmer:
In addition, you can specify "||:", which is equivalent to "|:" except at
line breaks, where it gives a double bar line at the end of the line and a
start repe
2013/1/17 Johan Vromans :
> Frank Steinmetzger writes:
>
>> Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2013, 08:28:37 schrieb Ralph Palmer:
>>> In addition, you can specify "||:", which is equivalent to "|:" except at
>>> line breaks, where it gives a double bar line at the end of the line and a
>>> start repeat a
Frank Steinmetzger writes:
> Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2013, 08:28:37 schrieb Ralph Palmer:
>> In addition, you can specify "||:", which is equivalent to "|:" except at
>> line breaks, where it gives a double bar line at the end of the line and a
>> start repeat at the beginning of the next line.
Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2013, 08:28:37 schrieb Ralph Palmer:
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Johan Vromans wrote:
> > Frank Steinmetzger writes:
> > > I knew about the |: bar statement, but also that I can't use two bars
> >
> > for the same moment. The grace hint works like a charm, thanks
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Johan Vromans wrote:
> Frank Steinmetzger writes:
>
> > I knew about the |: bar statement, but also that I can't use two bars
> for the
> > same moment. The grace hint works like a charm, thanks Johan.
>
Johan -
In case you don't know (perhaps the "|:" was a ty
Frank Steinmetzger writes:
> I knew about the |: bar statement, but also that I can't use two bars for the
> same moment. The grace hint works like a charm, thanks Johan.
Credits -> Keith Luke
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Am Mittwoch, 16. Januar 2013, 08:52:16 schrieb Marc Hohl:
> > Hello dear list
> >
> > I'm writing a score that has a \bar "||" at the end of a system, and a
> > volta repeat beginning in the following system after the line break. It
> > seems that the \bar command overwrites the |: of the followi
keith Luke writes:
> When I encounter this situation I use:
>
> \bar ":|"
> \grace s16
> \bar "|:"
\bar "||" \break
\grace s16
\repeat volta 2 {
works as well.
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Marc Hohl writes:
> Lilypond has a special bar line type for this: \bar "||:" should do
> the trick.
I agree with OP that LP should deal with this situation without
having to resort to tricks.
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When I encounter this situation I use:
\bar ":|"
\grace s16
\bar "|:"
in place of \re[eat volta.
I don't use \unfold so I wonder if the following would work for you:
\bar "||"
\grace s16
\bar "|:"
I'll also try \bar "||:" instead of using \grace.
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Marc Hohl
Am 16.01.2013 04:04, schrieb Frank Steinmetzger:
Hello dear list
I'm writing a score that has a \bar "||" at the end of a system, and a volta
repeat beginning in the following system after the line break. It seems that
the \bar command overwrites the |: of the following volta, making that
invisi
Hello dear list
I'm writing a score that has a \bar "||" at the end of a system, and a volta
repeat beginning in the following system after the line break. It seems that
the \bar command overwrites the |: of the following volta, making that
invisible. Is there a way to get what I desire?
Thank yo
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