Re: System start delimiter in middle of system; new score without breaking line

2013-03-14 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/3/15 Davide Liessi : > Dear LilyPond users, > > I found these messages in the list archives: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-07/msg00410.html > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-03/msg00483.html > > Is there anything new? > > I mean: > 1. is it possibl

System start delimiter in middle of system; new score without breaking line

2013-03-14 Thread Davide Liessi
Dear LilyPond users, I found these messages in the list archives: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-07/msg00410.html http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-03/msg00483.html Is there anything new? I mean: 1. is it possible to print the system start delimiter in th

RE: roling cords

2013-03-14 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Sarah: If by rolling chords you mean an arpeggio this might be of help: http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-as -lines Mark -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@

roling cords

2013-03-14 Thread Sarah Alawami
I might need to role a few coreds in this piano reduction. I know the term ala harp, or somethign like that. Would that text work in lily pond before the less then and grater then symbols or is there an easier way to do this? No mark up language. I'm not quite ready to memorise that yet. I'm

Re: Re: grace note stem lengths

2013-03-14 Thread Kevin Patrick Barry
Dear All, Thank you for the suggestions. Overriding the Beam positions did the trick! Kevin On 14 March 2013 20:43, "Torsten Hämmerle" wrote: > Hi Kevin, > > Apart from changing the Stem length-fraction (either by scheme commands or > an accustomed \override), as soon as beams come into play,

Re: Aw: Re: Pseudo-handwritten font

2013-03-14 Thread Tim McNamara
On Mar 14, 2013, at 5:36 AM, Torsten Hämmerle wrote: > > BUT: Even if all this may be quite an ambitious task, I just started off to > see what's possible and how Lilypond behaves in a jazz context. Fortunately, > the results look quite encouraging. :) This is very intriguing as a jazz player a

Re: Aligning 'to Coda' rehearsal marks

2013-03-14 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/3/14 Jim Long : > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 02:09:37AM +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: >> >> Hi Jim, >> >> below some code, which should do what you want. > > Wow, Harm, this is truly outstanding, more than I could have > hoped for. Glad I could help > I'll play with this some more, but at first g

Aw: Re: grace note stem lengths

2013-03-14 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
Hi Kevin,Apart from changing the Stem length-fraction (either by scheme commands or an accustomed \override), as soon as beams come into play, the beams, i. e. their positions and slopes will determine the stem lengths. That's why it's no use trying to override the Stem #'length.So, if anything els

Re: Aw: Re: Re: Pseudo-handwritten font

2013-03-14 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:59 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > "Torsten Hämmerle" writes: > >> I'm just happy that in the meantime some "main actors" as David or >> even Jan seem to acknowledge the fact that Lilypond would certainly >> benefit from being able to produce "jazz output". > > It's not "just

Re: Aligning 'to Coda' rehearsal marks

2013-03-14 Thread Eluze
+100! Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Aligning-to-Coda-rehearsal-marks-tp142601p142726.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http

Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign

2013-03-14 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: > The main problematic time will be when they are using an older version > of LilyPond while consulting examples and online documentation for a > newer one. That can lead to befuddlement of more than just a few > minutes, and this is not exactly unheard of. If we want to c

Re: Key signature shifted

2013-03-14 Thread Denis Bitouzé
Le jeudi 14/03/13 à 00h04, Keith OHara a écrit : > There is a bug report > proposing > that LilyPond put the key signature and cancellation in one column, > when there is only one of each, and also a suggestion to work around > the problem

Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign

2013-03-14 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > I feel that the original proposal, as specified elsewhere, violates > the principle of least surprise for existing users starting new > projects (not using convert-ly) with the new LilyPond. > > I'm not sure I understand why that's true… As I understand the proposal, >

Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign

2013-03-14 Thread David Kastrup
nothingwaver...@gmail.com writes: > I can't help but suspect that several long-time unsuspecting users in > the habit of writing \relative { ... } This has not been documented or recommended for quite a few years. > and expecting the first note to be relative to c' will upgrade to a > new versio

Re: Centering text between keyboard staves along with dynamics

2013-03-14 Thread Marek Klein
Hello, 2013/3/14 Michael Rivers > Often, rather than just dynamics ("pp") centered between staves, piano > music > adds a modifier ("pp dolce"). If I try to add the modifier as a text markup > in a dynamic context, the text isn't centered or aligned with the other > dynamics. Is there a better w

Centering text between keyboard staves along with dynamics

2013-03-14 Thread Michael Rivers
Often, rather than just dynamics ("pp") centered between staves, piano music adds a modifier ("pp dolce"). If I try to add the modifier as a text markup in a dynamic context, the text isn't centered or aligned with the other dynamics. Is there a better way to do this? \version "2.16.1" right = \r

Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign

2013-03-14 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi, > I feel that the original proposal, as specified elsewhere, violates the > principle of least surprise for existing users starting new projects (not > using convert-ly) with the new LilyPond. I'm not sure I understand why that's true… As I understand the proposal, \relative { c''' d e

Re: grace note stem lengths

2013-03-14 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Kevin, Try this : \new Staff { $(add-grace-property 'Voice 'Stem 'length-fraction '2) \new Voice { \relative a' { s a32 \afterGrace a { b32[ g] } a8 } } } 2013/3/14 Kevin Barry > Dear LilyPond users, > > Occasionally I find the stem lengths of grace notes to be too long, as in

Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign

2013-03-14 Thread nothingwavering
NEW IDEA Thanks for the feedback, Mr. Kastrup and others. The objections I hear from you and others on what I proposed are mainly these: 1. people not thrilled about their having (or other people having) to learn/use/implement a new syntax 2. objections to using up a new special symbol characte

grace note stem lengths

2013-03-14 Thread Kevin Barry
Dear LilyPond users, Occasionally I find the stem lengths of grace notes to be too long, as in the following example, where the grace 32s have longer stems than the normal ones (because of the slope I think): \version "2.16.2" \relative a' { s a32 \afterGrace a { b32[ g] } a8 } I have tr

Re: Pseudo-handwritten font

2013-03-14 Thread Noeck
Am 14.03.2013 15:38, schrieb David Kastrup: > Note spacing, beaming (!), system brackets and a few other things give > it away. The beaming is probably the worst offender regarding style > consistency. Would it be possible to use Bezier curves instead of straight lines for the beams? Some slight

Re: \mark halfway a bar?

2013-03-14 Thread David Kastrup
Rutger Hofman writes: > Ah, sorry, the confusion is all mine. I placed the \mark *after* the > note where it should appear, like \markup. You can't place markup after a note unless you put - ^ or _ before it. If you do that with \mark, it will put the mark above the note itself just fine. Which

Re: \mark halfway a bar?

2013-03-14 Thread Rutger Hofman
On 03/14/2013 02:51 PM, David Kastrup wrote: Rutger Hofman writes: On 03/14/2013 01:01 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: Hi, On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Rutger Hofman wrote: Good afternoon list, I want to have a rehearsal \mark halfway a bar. I cannot find anything in the v2.16 manual. I'm

Re: Pseudo-handwritten font

2013-03-14 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł writes: > Hi Torsten, > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:36 AM, "Torsten Hämmerle" > wrote: >> I've attached a zip file containing the current (albeit >> unfinished) versions of the LilyJAZZ music and LilyJAZZ Text font plus the >> corresponding LilyJAZZ.ily include. >> As an example t

Aw: Re: Re: Re: Pseudo-handwritten font

2013-03-14 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. März 2013 um 14:59 Uhr Von: "David Kastrup" It's not "just" Jazz. This is pretty much par for the course for Barbershop and quite a few other forms of vocal harmony. Interestingly, not for pop music. I also don't think it is used much for piano or other vertical

Re: Re: Pseudo-handwritten font

2013-03-14 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi Torsten, On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:36 AM, "Torsten Hämmerle" wrote: > I've attached a zip file containing the current (albeit > unfinished) versions of the LilyJAZZ music and LilyJAZZ Text font plus the > corresponding LilyJAZZ.ily include. > As an example to demonstrate what's already there

Re: Aw: Re: Re: Pseudo-handwritten font

2013-03-14 Thread Werner LEMBERG
[please use plain text for your e-mails] > > What do you mean with `rigid'? > > Some things related to Feta/Emmentaler access are still being > handled deep inside non-public scheme coding or even C source code > and consequently very hard to tweak. Please open bug reports about those issues.

Re: \mark halfway a bar?

2013-03-14 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
2013/3/14 Janek Warchoł Maybe you're using some ancient version of LilyPond? You should be > using 2.16.2. > > hth, > Janek > No, just doing the same for years... Actually I'm using 2.17 :) Thanks for the trick though. Pierre ___ lilypond-user mailing

Re: \mark halfway a bar?

2013-03-14 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Pierre Perol-Schneider wrote: > >> I want to place the mark over some specific time within the bar, e.g. at >> the third quarter in a 4/4. > > then simply add a hidden bar : > > { >c c c >\bar "" >\mark\default >c > } uh, you don't need that hidde

Aw: Re: Re: Pseudo-handwritten font

2013-03-14 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. März 2013 um 11:53 Uhr Von: "David Kastrup" > I think what we want to arrive at is a way to drop in music fonts into > LilyPond in a tolerable workable way. I think that we can't avoid at> first the necessity of having the font, if not its glyphs, at least its>

Re: Aw: Re: Re: Pseudo-handwritten font

2013-03-14 Thread David Kastrup
"Torsten Hämmerle" writes: > I'm just happy that in the meantime some "main actors" as David or > even Jan seem to acknowledge the fact that Lilypond would certainly > benefit from being able to produce "jazz output". It's not "just" Jazz. This is pretty much par for the course for Barbershop a

Re: \mark halfway a bar?

2013-03-14 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Rutger Hofman wrote: > On 03/14/2013 01:01 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> I'm not sure i understand your problem. You can simply insert a \mark >> anywhere you want it to be: >> >> { c'8 c' d' d' \mark \default e' e' f' f' } >> >> does this help you? > > A \mark is c

Re: \mark halfway a bar?

2013-03-14 Thread David Kastrup
Rutger Hofman writes: > On 03/14/2013 01:01 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Rutger Hofman wrote: >>> Good afternoon list, >>> >>> I want to have a rehearsal \mark halfway a bar. I cannot find anything in >>> the v2.16 manual. >> >> I'm not sure i understan

Re: \mark halfway a bar?

2013-03-14 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
> I want to place the mark over some specific time within the bar, e.g. at > the third quarter in a 4/4. > then simply add a hidden bar : { c c c \bar "" \mark\default c } Pierre ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https:/

Aw: Re: Re: Pseudo-handwritten font

2013-03-14 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
Hi Werner,> What do you mean with `rigid'? Some things related to Feta/Emmentaler access are still being handled deep inside non-public scheme coding or even C source code and consequently very hard to tweak.Amongst the most "stubborn" stencils are multi measure rests where the glyph names are asse

Re: \mark halfway a bar?

2013-03-14 Thread Rutger Hofman
On 03/14/2013 01:01 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: Hi, On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Rutger Hofman wrote: Good afternoon list, I want to have a rehearsal \mark halfway a bar. I cannot find anything in the v2.16 manual. I'm not sure i understand your problem. You can simply insert a \mark any

Re: \mark halfway a bar?

2013-03-14 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Rutger Hofman wrote: > Good afternoon list, > > I want to have a rehearsal \mark halfway a bar. I cannot find anything in > the v2.16 manual. I'm not sure i understand your problem. You can simply insert a \mark anywhere you want it to be: { c'8 c' d' d' \

Re: \mark halfway a bar?

2013-03-14 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Rutger, You can use : \once\override Score.RehearsalMark #'extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 0.0) % change coordonates Pierre 2013/3/14 Rutger Hofman > Good afternoon list, > > I want to have a rehearsal \mark halfway a bar. I cannot find anything in > the v2.16 manual. > > Thanks for helping out,

\mark halfway a bar?

2013-03-14 Thread Rutger Hofman
Good afternoon list, I want to have a rehearsal \mark halfway a bar. I cannot find anything in the v2.16 manual. Thanks for helping out, Rutger ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-use

Re: Aw: Re: Pseudo-handwritten font

2013-03-14 Thread Francisco Vila
2013/3/14 David Kastrup : > We currently have three music fonts of more than marginal interest: > LilyPond's own Feta (?), ... Emmentaler. Of which Feta and Parmesan are subsets. But Parmesan is only for ancient, and Feta includes braces and everything, so I guess we can keep calling the standard

Re: Aw: Re: Pseudo-handwritten font

2013-03-14 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> In the first place: I've attached a zip file containing the current > (albeit unfinished) versions of the LilyJAZZ music and LilyJAZZ Text > font plus the corresponding LilyJAZZ.ily include. Very impressive! > The main obstacle is the rigid way Lilypond handles its (her, his?) > internal music

Re: Pseudo-handwritten font

2013-03-14 Thread Urs Liska
Hi Torsten, thank you very much for your work. This is great! While I probably won't use it ever for myself, I find that an extremely useful addition to LilyPond, and I hope you will get enough assistance to get it into LilyPond's default distribution. Best Urs Am 14.03.2013 11:36, schrieb

Re: Aw: Re: Pseudo-handwritten font

2013-03-14 Thread David Kastrup
"Torsten Hämmerle" writes: > So finally: what have I done and why? The main obstacle is the rigid > way Lilypond handles its (her, his?) internal music font. I > deliberately decided to stick to an "ordinary" OTF/TTF font first to > learn how to use external fonts (who knows what it's good for)

Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign

2013-03-14 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, please be careful with using caps. On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:24 PM, wrote: > Why a new syntax? I frequently find that if I jump to the end of a big, long > \relative { ... }, then frequently I don't remember which octave I'm in. Maybe using Frescobaldi would solve this problem for you?

Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign

2013-03-14 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >>> However there is no fundamental need for the first pitch being an >>> absolute pitch in the first place. >> >> It can be relative to f if we want to. That adds the least amount >> of information to the first pitch. > > It seems to me that we should completely avoid th

Re: Aligning 'to Coda' rehearsal marks

2013-03-14 Thread Jim Long
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 02:09:37AM +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > below some code, which should do what you want. Wow, Harm, this is truly outstanding, more than I could have hoped for. I'll play with this some more, but at first glance, it performs well in three different staff si