Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign

2013-03-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> However there is no fundamental need for the first pitch being an >> absolute pitch in the first place. > > It can be relative to f if we want to. That adds the least amount > of information to the first pitch. It seems to me that we should completely avoid the word `absolute' if we speak ab

Re: Aligning 'to Coda' rehearsal marks

2013-03-13 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/3/13 Jim Long : > I'm not content with my skills in engraving coda jumps. I suspect > Lilypond could do better if I knew how to code it. > > My current method is to use a rehearsal mark to concatenate some > text and a Coda glyph, and then apply a trial-end-error X-offset > until it lines up

Re: Key signature shifted

2013-03-13 Thread Keith OHara
Denis Bitouzé wanadoo.fr> writes: > In that cases, wow, nice and powerful! > > But in my case (empty key after key cancellation), it looks > rather strange, isn't it? > There is a bug report proposing that LilyPond put the key signature

Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign

2013-03-13 Thread Olivier Biot
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:44 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > Olivier Biot writes: > > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:24 PM, wrote: > > > > Examples: > > > > 1. { c4 c' c@'' c@, } > > > > These are interpreted as absolute pitches, so the @-signs are > > redundant here. > > They coul

Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign

2013-03-13 Thread David Kastrup
Olivier Biot writes: > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:24 PM, wrote: > > Examples: > > 1. { c4 c' c@'' c@, } > > These are interpreted as absolute pitches, so the @-signs are > redundant here. > They could be silently ignored, or the at signs could be an error > outsi

Re: Aligning 'to Coda' rehearsal marks

2013-03-13 Thread Eluze
Jim Long wrote > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 03:43:04AM -0700, Eluze wrote: > >> \once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'self-alignment-X = #center % >> default >> \mark \markup { >> "to coda" >> \hspace #1 >> \raise #1 \musicglyph #"scripts.coda" >> \hspace #-.5 >> \with-color #

Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign

2013-03-13 Thread Olivier Biot
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:24 PM, wrote: > Examples: > > 1. { c4 c' c@'' c@, } > > These are interpreted as absolute pitches, so the @-signs are > redundant here. > They could be silently ignored, or the at signs could be an error > outside of \relative blocks. > > What do peo

Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign

2013-03-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> But the first entry of a \relative block must be relative to >> something, right? So, simply consider that \relative { ... } is >> always relative to `c', and you get exactly the same. > > Well, the current proposal is to be relative to f rather than c' as > previously. Ah, yes :-) Wer

Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign

2013-03-13 Thread David Kastrup
nothingwaver...@gmail.com writes: > This is a breakaway thread from the one with the subject "Proposed new > available and recommended behavior of \relative" I don't see what makes it "breakaway". > I am *OPPOSED* to the proposal to change \relative syntax, as the > proposal now stands. I think

Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign

2013-03-13 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >>> I am *OPPOSED* to the proposal to change \relative syntax, as the >>> proposal now stands. I think it is confusing to new users to have >>> the first pitch in a \relative block be absolute and the rest be >>> relative. > > But the first entry of a \relative block must

Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign

2013-03-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> I am *OPPOSED* to the proposal to change \relative syntax, as the >> proposal now stands. I think it is confusing to new users to have >> the first pitch in a \relative block be absolute and the rest be >> relative. But the first entry of a \relative block must be relative to something, right

Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign

2013-03-13 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 13.03.2013 20:24, schrieb nothingwaver...@gmail.com: This is a breakaway thread from the one with the subject "Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative" I am *OPPOSED* to the proposal to change \relative syntax, as the proposal now stands. I think it is confusing to new

\relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign

2013-03-13 Thread nothingwavering
This is a breakaway thread from the one with the subject "Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative" I am *OPPOSED* to the proposal to change \relative syntax, as the proposal now stands. I think it is confusing to new users to have the first pitch in a \relative block be ab

Re: Staccato mark outside slur

2013-03-13 Thread David Kastrup
Ralph Palmer writes: > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:27 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > > Ralph Palmer writes: > > > Greetings - > > > > I'm running LY 2.16.2 under Linux Ubuntu. > > > > I'm trying to move a staccato mark outside a slur, and I'm not > having > > any

Re: Staccato mark outside slur

2013-03-13 Thread Ralph Palmer
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:27 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > Ralph Palmer writes: > > > Greetings - > > > > I'm running LY 2.16.2 under Linux Ubuntu. > > > > I'm trying to move a staccato mark outside a slur, and I'm not having > > any luck. I'm attaching a minimal .ly file, its result, and an image

Re: FiguredBass accidental size

2013-03-13 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
Greetings, after having looked at a couple of printed scores (e.g. Telemann: Sechs ausgewählte Ouvertüren für Orchester... Bärenreiter-Ausgabe 2983, dated 1955) I found that the size of accidentals is at least the same as the size of the figures. I also found out that there already is an issue

Re: Staccato mark outside slur

2013-03-13 Thread David Kastrup
Ralph Palmer writes: > Greetings - > > I'm running LY 2.16.2 under Linux Ubuntu. > > I'm trying to move a staccato mark outside a slur, and I'm not having > any luck. I'm attaching a minimal .ly file, its result, and an image > of what I'm trying to achieve. > > Can anyone point out my error? Tr

Staccato mark outside slur

2013-03-13 Thread Ralph Palmer
Greetings - I'm running LY 2.16.2 under Linux Ubuntu. I'm trying to move a staccato mark outside a slur, and I'm not having any luck. I'm attaching a minimal .ly file, its result, and an image of what I'm trying to achieve. Can anyone point out my error? I appreciate your time and attention, R

Re: Aligning 'to Coda' rehearsal marks

2013-03-13 Thread Eluze
Jim Long wrote > How can I create a coda mark which: > > 1) aligns the X-center line of the coda glyph with the X-center of > the barline; > > 2) places the arbitrary "to Coda" alongside the glyph, while leaving > the glyph itself centered over the barline; and > > An elegant solution to this wo

Re: Key signature shifted

2013-03-13 Thread Denis Bitouzé
Le mercredi 13/03/13 à 09h19, David Kastrup a écrit : > If you replace the c \major in musicB with d\major or g\major or > a\major, I think you'll see the point of this alignment choice. In that cases, wow, nice and powerful! But in my case (empty key after key cancellation), it looks rather st

Re: Key signature shifted

2013-03-13 Thread David Kastrup
Denis Bitouzé writes: > in the following MWE: > > % > \version "2.16.2" > > music = { c c c c } > > musicA = \relative c'' { > \key c \major > \music > \key d \major > \music > } > > musicB = \relative c'' { > \key g \minor > \music > \key c \

Key signature shifted

2013-03-13 Thread Denis Bitouzé
Hello, in the following MWE: % \version "2.16.2" music = { c c c c } musicA = \relative c'' { \key c \major \music \key d \major \music } musicB = \relative c'' { \key g \minor \music \key c \major \music } musicAPart = \new Staff \music

Re: stem direction when crossing staves

2013-03-13 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:13 AM, Peter Wannemacher wrote: > Greetings, > > I have a part which crosses between two staves. I would like the stems to go > down when on the upper staff and up when on the lower staff. I have succeeded > in > the example below, but I would like not to have to ty