Re: Key Cancellation

2012-01-24 Thread Keith OHara
Shane Brandes grayskies.net> writes: > I wish to place a key cancellation indication at the > beginning of a piece, say from c-minor to c-major. There is \set Staff.keySignature = #`(( -1 . ,NATURAL) ( 2 . ,NATURAL) (-2 . ,NATURAL)

Re: enharmonic transposition of key signatures?

2012-01-24 Thread Keith OHara
Shevek saultobin.com> writes: > I have a situation [with transposing instruments] > and I would like to have the second key display as D flat, > rather than as C sharp. > \language "english" > global = {\key c \major s1*2 \key b \major s1*2 } In this situation (and also when transcribi

Key Cancellation

2012-01-24 Thread Shane Brandes
Hello all, i have a bit of puzzle that hopefully someone has worked out an answer to. I wish to place a key cancellation indication at the beginning of a piece, say from c-minor to c-major. However, as it is a new piece there is nothing to cancel from, hence the puzzle. Shane

Re: Bounties

2012-01-24 Thread Tim McNamara
As a user, I would tend to prefer to just kick money into a general fund and let someone figure out how it gets utilized for exactly the reason that was mentioned: I might want feature X, but groundwork U V and W- about which I know nothing- would have to precede the addition of feature X. Bou

Re: Lyircs melsima line ending in interpunctation

2012-01-24 Thread Hayden Muhl
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:56 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > Hayden Muhl writes: > > > Regardless of musical style, you should never* see text set like this. > > > > For unto us a child is bo___rn > > > > How you handle final consonants is going to be part of the styli

Re: Bounties

2012-01-24 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł writes: > I think that bounties will never have significant impact on Lily > development if we don't organize them. It's because writing code is > very expensive ($200-500 for a nontrivial patch?) compared to money > average user can spend (few can afford $100 i think). > I am seri

Re: Lyircs melsima line ending in interpunctation

2012-01-24 Thread David Kastrup
Hayden Muhl writes: > Regardless of musical style, you should never* see text set like this. > >     For unto us a child is bo___rn > > How you handle final consonants is going to be part of the stylistic > convention of the music you're performing and personal choice.

Re: Lyircs melsima line ending in interpunctation

2012-01-24 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/1/24 Nils : > Francisco Vila wrote: >> I think the whole matter is not 'we should' or not, but 'my publisher >> wants me to' which is what Nils said. > > the whole matter was cleared nearly immediatly. > And actually I asked for reasons for and against ___, > > Since no naked musicians are in

Bounties (was: User vs Developer)

2012-01-24 Thread Janek Warchoł
I think that bounties will never have significant impact on Lily development if we don't organize them. It's because writing code is very expensive ($200-500 for a nontrivial patch?) compared to money average user can spend (few can afford $100 i think). I am serious: there are at least 20 issues

Re: Arpeggio in tablature with two voices.

2012-01-24 Thread Thomas Morley
Hi andy, 2012/1/24 AB : >> > > Hi List, I'm trying to use connectArpeggios in tablature with no results. > I started with this snippet: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=294 > My "arrangement" for tab is this: > > \layout { >  \context { >   \TabStaff >   \consists "Span_arpeggio_engraver" >

Re: Lyircs melsima line ending in interpunctation

2012-01-24 Thread Nils
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 21:24:12 +0100 Francisco Vila wrote: > 2012/1/24 Hayden Muhl : > > With regard to punctuation, I think if we don't put final consonants at the > > end of extenders, we shouldn't put punctuation at the end of extenders. But, > > that's just my opinion, and you know what they sa

Re: Lyircs melsima line ending in interpunctation

2012-01-24 Thread Janek Warchoł
2012/1/24 Werner LEMBERG : > >> I could agree if we were talking about a melisma that doesn't cross >> a line break.  When there's a line break involved, having >> punctuation before it makes the part after the break look totally >> unconnected to anything.  Just some notes and a line, how one is >

Re: user vs. user (was: User vs Developer: Round 2 (and half-time?)

2012-01-24 Thread Federico Bruni
Il 24/01/2012 19:12, Shane Brandes ha scritto: Sounds like a really useful idea. It would just need a bounty hunter, i.e., someone to clearly put the offered sum or sums in a readily apparent spot. I think that the Sponsoring page should just provide a link to the list of issues labelled as B

Re: Lyircs melsima line ending in interpunctation

2012-01-24 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/1/24 Hayden Muhl : > With regard to punctuation, I think if we don't put final consonants at the > end of extenders, we shouldn't put punctuation at the end of extenders. But, > that's just my opinion, and you know what they say about opinions. I think the whole matter is not 'we should' or n

Re: How to place figures (from figured bass) in the second row without a first one?

2012-01-24 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
On 2012-01-23 01:56, Nils wrote: Is there no way to make a bass-figure transparent oder set the color to white for one figure in a "chord" only? I always use \markup{" "} (notice the space!), e.g. <\markup {" "} \markup { " " } _+> <9 7 _+> Cheers, Reinhold On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 21:00:00 +0100

Re: Arpeggio in tablature with two voices.

2012-01-24 Thread Federico Bruni
Il 24/01/2012 20:37, AB ha scritto: Hi List, I'm trying to use connectArpeggios in tablature with no results. I started with this snippet: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=294 My "arrangement" for tab is this: \layout { \context { \TabStaff \consists "Span_arpeggio_engraver"

Arpeggio in tablature with two voices.

2012-01-24 Thread AB
> Hi List, I'm trying to use connectArpeggios in tablature with no results. I started with this snippet: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=294 My "arrangement" for tab is this: \layout { \context { \TabStaff \consists "Span_arpeggio_engraver" } } \new TabStaff { \set Staff.connect

Re: Lyircs melsima line ending in interpunctation

2012-01-24 Thread Hayden Muhl
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:29 AM, Jan-Peter Voigt wrote: > > well, I wouldn't call it illegal - but not appropriate to typeset music > following "classical" rules like Bach or Händel (or Reger or Mahler or ...). > But for the Sinatra example: How would you notate it for an actor, > impersonating h

Re: Lyircs melsima line ending in interpunctation

2012-01-24 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Remember that if we sing, say, >> >> a - stray:_ >> >> >> we actually do >> >> a - stra_y: >> >> so putting just the punctuation after the melisma is illogical. > > I could agree if we were talking about a melisma that doesn't cross > a line break. When there's a line break

Re: user vs. user (was: User vs Developer: Round 2 (and half-time?) (was: Re: music font)

2012-01-24 Thread Shane Brandes
Sounds like a really useful idea. It would just need a bounty hunter, i.e., someone to clearly put the offered sum or sums in a readily apparent spot. Shane On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Federico Bruni wrote: > 2012/1/24 Tim McNamara : >> >> On Jan 24, 2012, at 5:57 AM, Graham Percival wr

Re: user vs. user (was: User vs Developer: Round 2 (and half-time?) (was: Re: music font)

2012-01-24 Thread Federico Bruni
2012/1/24 Tim McNamara : > > On Jan 24, 2012, at 5:57 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > >> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 01:50:13AM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: >>> >>> 2012/1/23 Xavier Scheuer : why I never *demand* developers to fix an issue, even if it is one that is really annoying my ego in

Re: user vs. user

2012-01-24 Thread David Kastrup
Tim McNamara writes: > It's not clear how to offer a bounty on a specific issue through the > Website, if that is even possible. Also, it's not clear there is any > way to contribute to some sort of general fund to pay for server > space, bandwidth, other operating expenses. Maybe those things

Re: User vs Developer: Round 2 (and half-time?)

2012-01-24 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: > "Christopher R. Maden" writes: > > >> That means that the users are most likely to speak when something is >> wrong, and it is easy to mistake that for complaining. > > A sentence starting with "I am disappointed that ..." is not really hard > to "mistake" for complaining

Re: user vs. user (was: User vs Developer: Round 2 (and half-time?) (was: Re: music font)

2012-01-24 Thread Tim McNamara
On Jan 24, 2012, at 5:57 AM, Graham Percival wrote: > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 01:50:13AM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> >> 2012/1/23 Xavier Scheuer : >>> why I never *demand* >>> developers to fix an issue, even if it is one that is really annoying >>> my ego in almost every score I typeset. >>

Re: user vs. user (was: User vs Developer: Round 2 (and half-time?)(was: Re: music font)

2012-01-24 Thread Janek Warchoł
2012/1/24 Graham Percival : > Our published materials says "24 hours": > > [...] we should update that accordingly. http://codereview.appspot.com/5575047/ and stop worrying. :) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/m

Macports lilypond-devel

2012-01-24 Thread Jean-Alexis Montignies
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've submitted a portfile for the development version of Lilypond to Macports. It should be up now so to install last (command line only) version of lilypond, you can do: sudo port install lilypond-devel Next step would be to add Frescobaldi ;) Greetin

Re: User vs Developer: Round 2 (and half-time?)

2012-01-24 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł writes: > Recently i seriously offended David without intentions to do so at all > - it was also a miscommunication :( Not really. I was offended at the way you saw things, not the way you communicated them. And the title of this thread again suggests that "developers" are a sepa

Re: Lyircs melsima line ending in interpunctation

2012-01-24 Thread Janek Warchoł
2012/1/24 Werner LEMBERG : >> Please consider this example too (see attachment) - it's taken from >> Haendel's "Messiah".  I find placing the semicolon before extender >> very awkward here - notice the line break.  It seems much more "in >> place" when punctuation is after the extender. > > I disag

Re: user vs. user (was: User vs Developer: Round 2 (and half-time?)(was: Re: music font)

2012-01-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:27:56PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: > >Of course, a 96-hour reponse rate isn't precisely fantastic, but > >it's a start. > > Well - TBH time isn't of the essence as a general rule. Whether a > bug gets added to the tracker in one day or 3 rarely affects the > overall deve

Re: User vs Developer: Round 2 (and half-time?)

2012-01-24 Thread David Kastrup
"Christopher R. Maden" writes: > That means that the users are most likely to speak when something is > wrong, and it is easy to mistake that for complaining. A sentence starting with "I am disappointed that ..." is not really hard to "mistake" for complaining. -- David Kastrup

Re: user vs. user (was: User vs Developer: Round 2 (and half-time?)(was: Re: music font)

2012-01-24 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" To: "Janek Warchoł" Cc: ; "lilypond-user" Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:57 AM Subject: user vs. user (was: User vs Developer: Round 2 (and half-time?)(was: Re: music font) Let's take a look at the current statistics, shall we? htt

user vs. user (was: User vs Developer: Round 2 (and half-time?) (was: Re: music font)

2012-01-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 01:50:13AM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: > > 2012/1/23 Xavier Scheuer : > > why I never *demand* > > developers to fix an issue, even if it is one that is really annoying > > my ego in almost every score I typeset. > > One thing comes to my mind: you are talking about bugs t

Re: Lyircs melsima line ending in interpunctation

2012-01-24 Thread James
Hello, On 24 January 2012 09:10, David Kastrup wrote: > > Frank Sinatra is not generally considered the epitome of cultured > vocalization. Oh dear. I don't know even where to begin with this one ;) James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-us

Re: enharmonic transposition of key signatures?

2012-01-24 Thread David Kastrup
Shevek writes: > I have a situation like the following, and I would like to have the second > key display as D flat, rather than as C sharp. I can't figure out a way to > do this without duplicating the global variable (but that would defeat the > purpose of the global variable, wouldn't it?). Ha

enharmonic transposition of key signatures?

2012-01-24 Thread Shevek
I have a situation like the following, and I would like to have the second key display as D flat, rather than as C sharp. I can't figure out a way to do this without duplicating the global variable (but that would defeat the purpose of the global variable, wouldn't it?). Has anyone else come up wi

Re: Lyircs melsima line ending in interpunctation

2012-01-24 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Am 24.01.2012 um 10:04 schrieb Werner LEMBERG: >>> Remember that if we sing, say, >>> >>> a - stray:_ >>> >>> >>> we actually do >>> >>> a - stra_y: >>> >>> so putting just the punctuation after the melisma is illogical. >> >> I've been asking myself why, if that's the rul

Re: Lyircs melsima line ending in interpunctation

2012-01-24 Thread David Kastrup
Francisco Vila writes: > 2012/1/24 David Kastrup : > >> Frank Sinatra is not generally considered the epitome of cultured >> vocalization. > > His recordings are still used by language teachers as examples of good > pronunciation. Not by classical singing teachers, and not likely by native langu

Re: Lyircs melsima line ending in interpunctation

2012-01-24 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/1/24 David Kastrup : > Francisco Vila writes: > >> 2012/1/24 Werner LEMBERG : Please consider this example too (see attachment) - it's taken from Haendel's "Messiah".  I find placing the semicolon before extender very awkward here - notice the line break.  It seems much more "i

Re: Lyircs melsima line ending in interpunctation

2012-01-24 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >> I've been asking myself why, if that's the rule (which I don't deny) >> eg. Frank Sinatra sings: >> >> Ne York >> and >> M way >> >> instead of New or M[aa...]y > > Well, non-operatic singing follows different rules, obviously :-) > > But try th

Re: Lyircs melsima line ending in interpunctation

2012-01-24 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Remember that if we sing, say, >> >> a - stray:_ >> >> >> we actually do >> >> a - stra_y: >> >> so putting just the punctuation after the melisma is illogical. > > I've been asking myself why, if that's the rule (which I don't deny) > eg. Frank Sinatra sings: > > Newww

Re: Lyircs melsima line ending in interpunctation

2012-01-24 Thread David Kastrup
Francisco Vila writes: > 2012/1/24 Werner LEMBERG : >>> Please consider this example too (see attachment) - it's taken from >>> Haendel's "Messiah".  I find placing the semicolon before extender >>> very awkward here - notice the line break.  It seems much more "in >>> place" when punctuation is

Re: Lyircs melsima line ending in interpunctation

2012-01-24 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/1/24 Werner LEMBERG : >> Please consider this example too (see attachment) - it's taken from >> Haendel's "Messiah".  I find placing the semicolon before extender >> very awkward here - notice the line break.  It seems much more "in >> place" when punctuation is after the extender. > > I disag

Re: my own file

2012-01-24 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/1/24 Julia : > I am having a devil of a time! > > I confirmed that lilypond is working. > The log says my compilation is successful. > But neither the ps or pdf file were created. > I downloaded the 2.14 version for windows xp. > > I don't know how to fix that. > > Please help!!! > > Thank you