Re: grace synchronization

2011-08-26 Thread David Kastrup
Reinhold Kainhofer writes: > On Fr., 26. Aug. 2011 23:32:39 CEST, David Kastrup wrote: > >> I checked around, and Rationals (which are used for time) have a >> representation of -inf.  I think it would be a good start if the default >> grace time component (namely when no grace is present) was

Setting staff size for individual scores

2011-08-26 Thread Patrick Karl
Reading the documentation in Notation:4.2.2: Setting the staff size, one thinks that one can set the staff size for all scores in an input file by using the set-global-staff-size function, or one can set the staff size for each individual score in an input file by using the layout-set-staff-si

Re: grace synchronization

2011-08-26 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Friday, 26. August 2011, 23:05:26 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: > Well, here's an curious discovery: If you have a global variable > "simultaneous-ed" into the Voice/Staff context(s), the "extra" skipped > grace note MUST BE IN THE GLOBAL, not just explicitly placed in the other > Voice(s)/Staff(s).

Re: grace synchronization

2011-08-26 Thread Hans Aberg
On 27 Aug 2011, at 00:51, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > On Fr., 26. Aug. 2011 23:32:39 CEST, David Kastrup wrote: > >> I checked around, and Rationals (which are used for time) have a >> representation of -inf. I think it would be a good start if the default >> grace time component (namely when

Re: grace synchronization

2011-08-26 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Friday, 26. August 2011, 22:59:47 schrieb Hans Aberg: > My impression is that there is a mixture of code, sometimes putting the > grace-note before the bar, and sometimes after. > > A fix might allow one to fine-tune that. Actually, lilypond's handling is way more abstract. There are no checks

Re: grace synchronization

2011-08-26 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
On Fr., 26. Aug. 2011 23:32:39 CEST, David Kastrup wrote: > I checked around, and Rationals (which are used for time) have a > representation of -inf.  I think it would be a good start if the default > grace time component (namely when no grace is present) was not set to 0, > but to -inf, meanin

Re: grace synchronization

2011-08-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, Well, here's an curious discovery: If you have a global variable "simultaneous-ed" into the Voice/Staff context(s), the "extra" skipped grace note MUST BE IN THE GLOBAL, not just explicitly placed in the other Voice(s)/Staff(s). \version "2.13" % skip in voice = fail global = { \key a

Re: grace synchronization

2011-08-26 Thread Hans Aberg
On 26 Aug 2011, at 22:47, Kieren MacMillan wrote: >> I now got it working: just put in a grace note with a skip in the other >> staff. > > I had already tried that in my score — doesn't fix the problem. To fix the problem, I first commented out the other staff (in fact, some chord names). When

Re: grace synchronization

2011-08-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Hans, > I now got it working: just put in a grace note with a skip in the other staff. I had already tried that in my score — doesn't fix the problem. > However, when trying to use \bar ":||", like in the manual, then all sorts of > strange things happen. =( Kieren.

Re: grace synchronization

2011-08-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Wow, this still isn't fixed? I'll put money towards this, too. -Jonathan - Original Message - > From: Kieren MacMillan > To: Lilypond-User Mailing List > Cc: Lilypond Bugreports > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 11:43 AM > Subject: grace synchronization > > Hello all, > > I'm runni

Re: grace synchronization

2011-08-26 Thread Hans Aberg
On 26 Aug 2011, at 21:30, Hans Aberg wrote: > On 26 Aug 2011, at 17:43, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > >> I'm running into a rather irritating grace synchronization problem — an >> acciaccatura in one voice is overriding an explicit page break — and so I >> wanted to know what it would take to fix t

Re: grace synchronization

2011-08-26 Thread Hans Aberg
On 26 Aug 2011, at 17:43, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > I'm running into a rather irritating grace synchronization problem — an > acciaccatura in one voice is overriding an explicit page break — and so I > wanted to know what it would take to fix the grace sync problem "once and for > all". By coi

baseline-skip question

2011-08-26 Thread David Nalesnik
Dear list, I've run into a problem with baseline-skip, and I'm wondering if I've missed something. The attached file demonstrates what happens to a column when the staff size is changed within a layout block. I would expect that the override of StaffSymbol #'staff-space would also scale the over

shorten a broken hairpin at a linebreak?

2011-08-26 Thread harm6
Hi, how can I shorten the first part of a broken hairpin to avoid the printing under a new KeySignature (or KeyCancellation, TimeSignature etc) at a linebreak? I tried (with no success): \version "2.14.2" \pointAndClickOff \paper { ragged-right = ##f } lengthHairpinBoth = #(define-music-func

grace synchronization

2011-08-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello all, I'm running into a rather irritating grace synchronization problem — an acciaccatura in one voice is overriding an explicit page break — and so I wanted to know what it would take to fix the grace sync problem "once and for all". I know of Issue 34 (and others) in the tracker, but

Re: Default beaming for 3/4

2011-08-26 Thread Gerard McConnell
Your second example shows the correct beaming as required in Associated Board theory exams. On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Nick Payne wrote: > According to Gould (p.153, about half way down the page), the Lilypond > default beaming for 3/4 is incorrect in the following example; it should be >

Re: Default beaming for 3/4

2011-08-26 Thread David Kastrup
Reinhold Kainhofer writes: > Am Freitag, 26. August 2011, 15:12:16 schrieb David Kastrup: >> Note that this would not agree with Gould. Paraphrasing the gut rule I >> apply here, this would likely be something like >> >> An off-beat can be beamed to the next group if its on-beat is not >> e

Re: Lilypond lobbying?

2011-08-26 Thread David Kastrup
"Dmytro O. Redchuk" writes: > On Fri 26 Aug 2011, 13:54 David Kastrup wrote: >> So maybe the "spacer rest" terminology is not doing anybody a favor. >> >> Would you have felt more comfortable if my example had used "\skip" >> instead of "spacer rests"? > No, not sure. Why "music" should contain

Re: Default beaming for 3/4

2011-08-26 Thread Hans Aberg
On 26 Aug 2011, at 15:14, Hans Aberg wrote: > On 26 Aug 2011, at 13:07, Nick Payne wrote: > >> According to Gould (p.153, about half way down the page), the Lilypond >> default beaming for 3/4 is incorrect in the following example; it should be >> beamed as in the second bar: >> >> \version "2

Re: Default beaming for 3/4

2011-08-26 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Freitag, 26. August 2011, 15:12:16 schrieb David Kastrup: > Note that this would not agree with Gould. Paraphrasing the gut rule I > apply here, this would likely be something like > > An off-beat can be beamed to the next group if its on-beat is not > explicitly present. The problem is t

Re: Default beaming for 3/4

2011-08-26 Thread Hans Aberg
On 26 Aug 2011, at 13:07, Nick Payne wrote: > According to Gould (p.153, about half way down the page), the Lilypond > default beaming for 3/4 is incorrect in the following example; it should be > beamed as in the second bar: > > \version "2.14.2" > > \relative c' { >\time 3/4 >c4. c8

Re: Default beaming for 3/4

2011-08-26 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" writes: > - Original Message - > From: "David Kastrup" > To: > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 1:23 PM > Subject: Re: Default beaming for 3/4 > > >> Nick Payne writes: >> >>> According to Gould (p.153, about half way down the page), the Lilypond >>> default beaming for 3/4

Re: Lilypond lobbying?

2011-08-26 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Fri 26 Aug 2011, 13:54 David Kastrup wrote: > So maybe the "spacer rest" terminology is not doing anybody a favor. > > Would you have felt more comfortable if my example had used "\skip" > instead of "spacer rests"? No, not sure. Why "music" should contain any "skips" to be "typeset" nicely? W

midi file without dynamics

2011-08-26 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear community, although I think I can understand why the crescendi and decrescendi are not played back correctly on the longer notes in the below quoted snippet, I wonder why I can't hear at least the difference between forte and piano in bar 3 and 4. Is there a possibility to get a more accurate

Re: Lilypond lobbying?

2011-08-26 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Freitag, 26. August 2011, 14:22:27 schrieb David Kastrup: > I think if > a note or "spacer rest" creates an implicit Voice context for the rest > of sequential music in { c ... } then it should do the same for << c > ... >>. Can anybody think of music where this would be a bad idea? I > am not

Re: Default beaming for 3/4

2011-08-26 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" To: Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 1:23 PM Subject: Re: Default beaming for 3/4 Nick Payne writes: According to Gould (p.153, about half way down the page), the Lilypond default beaming for 3/4 is incorrect in the following example; it sho

Re: Default beaming for 3/4

2011-08-26 Thread David Kastrup
Nick Payne writes: > According to Gould (p.153, about half way down the page), the Lilypond > default beaming for 3/4 is incorrect in the following example; it > should be beamed as in the second bar: > > \version "2.14.2" > > \relative c' { > \time 3/4 > c4. c8 c c > c4. c8 c[ c] > }

Re: Lilypond lobbying?

2011-08-26 Thread David Kastrup
Reinhold Kainhofer writes: > Am Friday, 26. August 2011, 12:48:28 schrieb Joseph Wakeling: >> On 08/26/2011 10:28 AM, David Kastrup wrote: >> > It's pretty much along the lines of the given verbal description. You >> > could also do something like >> > >> > << c1 { s4\< s2\! s4 } >> >> >> Is t

Re: Lilypond lobbying?

2011-08-26 Thread David Kastrup
"Dmytro O. Redchuk" writes: > On Fri 26 Aug 2011, 11:59 David Kastrup wrote: >> Your complaint about my code focused on the consequences of doing the >> crescendo in a separate voice. Which I did not do. > I am sorry. > >> So could you focus your critique on << c1 { s4 s2\< s4\! } >> (or >> what

Re: Default beaming for 3/4

2011-08-26 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Nick Payne" To: Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 12:07 PM Subject: Default beaming for 3/4 According to Gould (p.153, about half way down the page), the Lilypond default beaming for 3/4 is incorrect in the following example; it should be beamed as in the seco

Re: Lilypond lobbying?

2011-08-26 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Friday, 26. August 2011, 12:48:28 schrieb Joseph Wakeling: > On 08/26/2011 10:28 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > > It's pretty much along the lines of the given verbal description. You > > could also do something like > > > > << c1 { s4\< s2\! s4 } >> > > Is this a new notation for 2.14, or is it

Re: Lilypond lobbying?

2011-08-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
Joseph Wakeling wrote Friday, August 26, 2011 11:48 AM On 08/26/2011 10:28 AM, David Kastrup wrote: It's pretty much along the lines of the given verbal description. You could also do something like << c1 { s4\< s2\! s4 } >> Is this a new notation for 2.14, or is it missing the \\ ? I as

Default beaming for 3/4

2011-08-26 Thread Nick Payne
According to Gould (p.153, about half way down the page), the Lilypond default beaming for 3/4 is incorrect in the following example; it should be beamed as in the second bar: \version "2.14.2" \relative c' { \time 3/4 c4. c8 c c c4. c8 c[ c] } <>___

Re: Lilypond lobbying?

2011-08-26 Thread Joseph Wakeling
On 08/26/2011 10:28 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > It's pretty much along the lines of the given verbal description. You > could also do something like > > << c1 { s4\< s2\! s4 } >> Is this a new notation for 2.14, or is it missing the \\ ? I ask because when compiling this under 2.12 I get two sta

Re: Lilypond lobbying?

2011-08-26 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Fri 26 Aug 2011, 11:59 David Kastrup wrote: > Your complaint about my code focused on the consequences of doing the > crescendo in a separate voice. Which I did not do. I am sorry. > So could you focus your critique on << c1 { s4 s2\< s4\! } >> (or > whatever the exact timing was) rather than

Re: Lilypond lobbying?

2011-08-26 Thread David Kastrup
"Dmytro O. Redchuk" writes: > On Fri 26 Aug 2011, 11:12 David Kastrup wrote: >> > You can do this in a separate voice >> >> If you think this is a separate voice > No, I wrote "you can do it in a separate voice". Also. > > Both ways, as for me, are not very elegant. Your complaint about my code

Re: Lilypond lobbying?

2011-08-26 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Fri 26 Aug 2011, 11:12 David Kastrup wrote: > > You can do this in a separate voice > > If you think this is a separate voice No, I wrote "you can do it in a separate voice". Also. Both ways, as for me, are not very elegant. I can be wrong, sorry for the noise. -- Dmytro O. Redchuk

Re: Lilypond lobbying?

2011-08-26 Thread David Kastrup
"Dmytro O. Redchuk" writes: > On Fri 26 Aug 2011, 10:28 David Kastrup wrote: >> "Dmytro O. Redchuk" writes: >> > I am not a composer at all, but... is this a "musical" approach? >> >> It's pretty much along the lines of the given verbal description. You >> could also do something like >> >> <

Re: Lilypond lobbying?

2011-08-26 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Fri 26 Aug 2011, 10:28 David Kastrup wrote: > "Dmytro O. Redchuk" writes: > > I am not a composer at all, but... is this a "musical" approach? > > It's pretty much along the lines of the given verbal description. You > could also do something like > > << c1 { s4\< s2\! s4 } >> Yes, I know ,)

Re: Lilypond lobbying?

2011-08-26 Thread David Kastrup
"Dmytro O. Redchuk" writes: > On Thu 25 Aug 2011, 23:51 David Kastrup wrote: >> c1*1/4 s1*3/4\p >> >> c1*1/4 s1*3/4\< >> >> c1*1/4 s1*5/8\< s1*1/8\! > I am not a composer at all, but... is this a "musical" approach? It's pretty much along the lines of the given verbal description. You could a

Re: Lilypond lobbying?

2011-08-26 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
On Thu 25 Aug 2011, 23:51 David Kastrup wrote: > c1*1/4 s1*3/4\p > > c1*1/4 s1*3/4\< > > c1*1/4 s1*5/8\< s1*1/8\! I am not a composer at all, but... is this a "musical" approach? -- Dmytro O. Redchuk"Easy to use" is easy to say. Bug Squad