Re: Mailing list strangeness

2009-10-29 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2009 schrieb Chris Angelico: > On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Hi, > > > > not Lilypond-specific, but about the mechanisms of the mailing list: > > > > During the last days I asked two questions on the list, and both Kieren > > and Neil wro

Re: Inline score inside markup - bugs in music alignment

2009-10-29 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/10/29 Jiri Zurek (Prague) : > After doing some more research on the topic, I discovered that it is really > a limitation of Lilypond that it ignores all the systems of the music except > the first one when score is inside the markup block. However, an able scheme > programmer should be able t

Re: website so close, and yet so far

2009-10-29 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2009 17:23:18 schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: >> Am Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2009 schrieb Valentin Villenave: >> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Federico Bruni > wrote: >> > I have to admit I'm pretty d

Re: Mailing list strangeness

2009-10-29 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Hi, > > not Lilypond-specific, but about the mechanisms of the mailing list: > > During the last days I asked two questions on the list, and both Kieren and > Neil wrote their answers with To:my address and a copy (CC) to the list. The >

Re: automatic "note-as-denominator" time signatures?

2009-10-29 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Reinhold: Example is attached (and uploaded to the LSR: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=642 ). Very nice — thanks! This will definitely be a feature in my Lily-lectures next week... Cheers, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-use

Re: Schenker graph example (improvement)

2009-10-29 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Neil, Looks really good, Kieren. The only thing I find slightly distracting is the alignment of the carets on the scale degrees. If you don't mind a slight increase in complexity, I'd suggest using fingerings instead, with a custom stencil callback to centre-align the columns. Thanks — sin

Re: Schenker graph example (improvement)

2009-10-29 Thread Jonathan Kulp
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Kieren MacMillan < kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm hoping to show a Schenker graph example on my lecture tour next week, > but I find unnecessarily complex > — it ends up [to my eye] looking like far

Mailing list strangeness

2009-10-29 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Hi, not Lilypond-specific, but about the mechanisms of the mailing list: During the last days I asked two questions on the list, and both Kieren and Neil wrote their answers with To:my address and a copy (CC) to the list. The same goes for answers they write to each other in the ongoing thread.

Re: website so close, and yet so far

2009-10-29 Thread Leonardo Herrera
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Graham Percival wrote: [...] > *shrug* > if it sounds like I'm massively frustrated over this state of > affairs... well, yes, I am. > > - Graham Well, I offer my help as web monkey. I don't have time for big commitments, but little things (small rendering errors

Re: Schenker graph example (improvement)

2009-10-29 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/10/29 Kieren MacMillan : > Hence the attached simplified/improved code file, at least as far as I've > gotten it in an hour or so. Looks really good, Kieren. The only thing I find slightly distracting is the alignment of the carets on the scale degrees. If you don't mind a slight increase

Re: Punctuation marks after underscore in lyrics

2009-10-29 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Neil, Something like this, perhaps: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1&id=643 Um... yeah... exactly. Even though I wasn't the one who [originally] asked for this possibility, I'll say it: YOU ROCK. Thanks! Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing

Re: Punctuation marks after underscore in lyrics

2009-10-29 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/10/26 Kieren MacMillan : > Probably to \override the LyricExtender #'stencil. Something like this, perhaps: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1&id=643 Regards, Neil ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mail

Re: website so close, and yet so far

2009-10-29 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2009 17:23:18 schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: > Am Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2009 schrieb Valentin Villenave: > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Federico Bruni wrote: > > I have to admit I'm pretty disappointed with the u

Schenker graph example (improvement)

2009-10-29 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, I'm hoping to show a Schenker graph example on my lecture tour next week, but I find unnecessarily complex — it ends up [to my eye] looking like far more work, and way scarier, than doing it in Finale (which I did a bunch of in my day, hat

RE: centering rests

2009-10-29 Thread Erik Appeldoorn
You are quite right, and I have never even bothered to check. Although I have a quite substantial library and am over 25 years active with music. Erik > -Original Message- > From: Kieren MacMillan [mailto:kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca] > Sent: donderdag 29 oktober 2009 18:29 > To: Erik Ap

Re: centering rests

2009-10-29 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Erik, when I want to use r2 at the start (or R2) of the bar it looks awfull. So how do I align these rests centered? If you mean that you want the (e.g.) half-note rest to be mid-way through the first half of the measure, rather than left-aligned at the first beat, then... you don't/sho

Re: centering rests

2009-10-29 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Always use R instead of r for full measure rests, i.e. R1 in 4/4 and R2 in 2/4. I'm not sure I understand what you mean about the problems with r2/R2, it's always easier to answer your questions in a relevant way if you provide some example of the LilyPond code you have tried. /Mats Erik Appe

Re: lilypond-book on osx 10.4

2009-10-29 Thread James E. Bailey
On 29.10.2009, at 12:14, John Mandereau wrote: Le mercredi 28 octobre 2009 à 19:34 +0100, James E. Bailey a écrit : downgrading to python 2.4.6 solved the problem and lilypond-book works perfectly now. Whom do I talk to to have this updated in the distributed binary? Or is this not a feasib

Re: Lyrics and repeats

2009-10-29 Thread David Kastrup
Kris Van Bruwaene writes: > I'm transcribing Six old Dutch Songs for choir and reed organ (harmonium), one > of which has a repeat section with different lyrics and alternative endings > (using LP 2.12.1 on Ubuntu 9.04.). For the voltas (1 measure ending) I used > the > procedure outlined on pag

centering rests

2009-10-29 Thread Erik Appeldoorn
When I use r1 (4/4 time) the sign gets aligned left in the bar. R1 aligns it properly, but when I want to use r2 at the start (or R2) of the bar it looks awfull. So how do I align these rests centered? I haven't done anything fancy Hou je goed / Keep well, Erik _

Re: Inline score inside markup - bugs in music alignment

2009-10-29 Thread Jiri Zurek (Prague)
I was complaining about the music alignment within a markup text line. Jiri Zurek (Prague) wrote: > > 2) if the staff spans over several lines (longer music), then only the > first line of the music is shown and the rest is ignored! How can this be > corrected? Or is it a genuine bug in LilyPond

Re: website so close, and yet so far

2009-10-29 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2009 schrieb Valentin Villenave: > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Federico Bruni wrote: > I have to admit I'm pretty disappointed with the user community. > > Wow, is this normal: > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/ > > This link points to the non-of

Re: Lyrics and repeats

2009-10-29 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2009 schrieb Kris Van Bruwaene: > - how to get the (final) lyrics repeated there? You can also use volta repeats in lyricmode. > - how to get the slurs extended into it? I'v wondered about that myself. I have a piece that has a slur/tie into the alternatives, so the

Re: Lyrics and repeats

2009-10-29 Thread Mats Bengtsson
It's always easier to answer a question like these if we see an example of LilyPond code that you tried. Kris Van Bruwaene wrote: I'm transcribing Six old Dutch Songs for choir and reed organ (harmonium), one of which has a repeat section with different lyrics and alternative endings (using LP

Re: PNG output croping bottom of page?

2009-10-29 Thread Alberto Simões
Hello, Patrick Patrick McCarty wrote: > Hi, > > On 2009-10-28, Alberto Simões wrote: >> Sure. Ill try to keep uptodate with releases so the site gets fixes asap :) > > So here is what I have found... > > The command `lilypond -fpng file.ly' uses the PS backend by default, > and when Ghostscript

Lyrics and repeats

2009-10-29 Thread Kris Van Bruwaene
I'm transcribing Six old Dutch Songs for choir and reed organ (harmonium), one of which has a repeat section with different lyrics and alternative endings (using LP 2.12.1 on Ubuntu 9.04.). For the voltas (1 measure ending) I used the procedure outlined on page 99 of the current notation reference

Re: website so close, and yet so far

2009-10-29 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2009 12:40:06 schrieb Graham Percival: >> Umm... welcome to git from a month ago? >> Documentation/index.html.in  was removed with prejudice a few >> weeks ago.  If you're curious, I would encourage you to loo

Re: website so close, and yet so far

2009-10-29 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2009 12:40:06 schrieb Graham Percival: > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:04:31AM +0100, Valentin Villenave wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Federico Bruni wrote: > > I have to admit I'm pretty disappointed with the user community. > > > > Wow, is this normal

Re: website so close, and yet so far

2009-10-29 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > Umm... welcome to git from a month ago? > Documentation/index.html.in  was removed with prejudice a few > weeks ago.  If you're curious, I would encourage you to look > through the git history. Okay, I must've blacked out for a while :)

RE: Adding voices

2009-10-29 Thread Erik Appeldoorn
Thanks Simon and Kieren, Indeed the r1 was the culprit. I will add the | marks from now on. Erik > in both these parts you had a 4-beat rest (r1) in a 3-beat bar. the > error message about a barcheck failing was also being output. > misplaced bars and beats will almost always cause a score to end

Inline score inside markup - bugs in music alignment

2009-10-29 Thread Jiri Zurek (Prague)
When \score is places inside \markuplines block, there are 3 problems: 1) music is not exactly inline (even if resized to fit the height of the text line) but its baseline is always a bit under the baseline of the text at the same line as the following example shows. I was trying to get rid of the

Re: website so close, and yet so far

2009-10-29 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:04:31AM +0100, Valentin Villenave wrote: > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Federico Bruni wrote: > I have to admit I'm pretty disappointed with the user community. > > Wow, is this normal: > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/ > > This link points to

Re: Adding voices

2009-10-29 Thread Mats Bengtsson
My guess is that the problem is that you have considered the lyrics lines as part of the staves, whereas a Staff in LilyPond terminology only contains the music voices, not the lyrics. Use the template called "SATB vocal score and automatic piano reduction", included in the Learning Manual, as

Re: Adding voices

2009-10-29 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Erik, So here is the organ part I added. \new PianoStaff << \new Staff = "ManualOne" << \new Voice { \orgAMusic } \new Staff = "ManualTwo" << \new Voice { \orgBMusic } >> >> >> Don't you instead mean to have \new PianoStaff << \new Staff = "ManualOne" << \new Voice { \orgAMusic } >>

Re: lilypond-book on osx 10.4

2009-10-29 Thread John Mandereau
Le mercredi 28 octobre 2009 à 19:34 +0100, James E. Bailey a écrit : > downgrading to python 2.4.6 solved the problem and lilypond-book works > perfectly now. Whom do I talk to to have this updated in the > distributed binary? Or is this not a feasible option because 10.5 and > 10.6 don't have thi

Adding voices

2009-10-29 Thread Erik Appeldoorn
As I'm brand spanking new I'm probably going to ask a lot of dumb questions. If so, just tell me. The point is building a SATB with organ score. Everything looks fine until I activate/add the organ part. After that the score is rubbish. Would a basic explanation of what I've done suffice? \

Re: website so close, and yet so far

2009-10-29 Thread John Mandereau
Le jeudi 29 octobre 2009 à 11:04 +0100, Valentin Villenave a écrit : > Wow, is this normal: > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/ > > This link points to the non-officially-published website's homepage??? IMO it's too early to replace the old documentation index with the new website,

Re: \RemoveEmptyStaffContext and cross-staff beams

2009-10-29 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Neil Puttock wrote: > There's a message in the deleted bug snippet harakiri-autoknee.ly > which suggests there used to be a problem: > > Autoknee-ing triggers hara-kiri too early. OK, since I can't decide whether to remove it or not, I've just added it to the trac

Re: website so close, and yet so far

2009-10-29 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Federico Bruni wrote: I have to admit I'm pretty disappointed with the user community. Wow, is this normal: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/ This link points to the non-officially-published website's homepage??? Cheers, Valentin

Re: Controlling MIDI output and chords

2009-10-29 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:26 PM, madMuze wrote: > > It's not clear how you removed the Note_performer; have you tried: > >        \midi { >                \context { \ChordNameVoice \remove Note_performer } >        } > > ? > This has worked for me. Ah. I was doing: \midi { \context { \ChordName

Re: Controlling MIDI output and chords

2009-10-29 Thread madMuze
>I'm guessing that it's probably >something along the lines of removing the Note_performer from the MIDI >output, but I tried that and it doesn't seem to work. It's not clear how you removed the Note_performer; have you tried: \midi { \context { \ChordNameVoice \remove No