Re: Lilypond speed

2009-08-03 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:19 AM, hernan wrote: > My main frustration with Lilypond is speed. In my setup (Win-XP, P4 3.0Ghz, 1G > ram) to process a fairly simple scoresheet (2 or 3 pages) it takes about 8 > seconds. That might not seem a great deal, but it is really annoying when one > is > doing

Re: "anchors" in the music stream?

2009-08-03 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Mats Bengtsson wrote: > Reminds me of the GOTO command in BASIC! ;-) > > Seriously, I seem to recall that I proposed this feature some 11-12 years > ago and at that Han-Wen at that time answered with a "No!!!" (I don't > remember any details and this was long before

Re: French accents

2009-08-03 Thread Graham Norton
Dear All, iMac TeXShop MACROS give another way of inserting non-standard characters into LilyPond lyrics without using unicodes explicitly (my version of TeXShop will not allow me to insert characters directly from the Special Character table into a file). Firstly, In System Preference

Re: cannot end slur

2009-08-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hey, thanks for all the help everyone. I had the "cannot end slur" warning a lot of places in a previous score, and I'm pretty sure it was all due to the nested slur in the \acciaccatura. Best, Jonathan --- On Tue, 8/4/09, Trevor Daniels wrote: > From: Trevor Daniels > Subject: Re: cannot

Is Denemo a good frontend for Lilypond?

2009-08-03 Thread Daryna Baikadamova
Denemo 0.8.6 claims to be able to edit and save lilypond file. What do you think about the quality of its Lilypond export? How accurate, and how human-readable is Lilypond output produced by Denemo 0.8.6? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@g

Re: website: why do you use lilypond?

2009-08-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 11:02:31PM +0200, Federico Bruni wrote: > Tim Rowe wrote: >> 2009/8/1 Federico Bruni : >> >>> What about a Scott Joplin ragtime arranged for guitar? (it is in the public >>> domain) >> >> Scott Joplin rags may be public domain, but are any guitar >> arrangements of them? Or

Re: "anchors" in the music stream?

2009-08-03 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Mats, Reminds me of the GOTO command in BASIC! ;-) An *extremely* underrated and powerful command. ;-p One alternative way to achieve the same thing is to simply do a global = { \time 4/4 s4*4*10 \time 3/4 s4*3*5 \time 7/4 s4*7 <<{ \time 4/4 \bar "|." } \anchoredStuff >> } Nope:

Re: website: why do you use lilypond?

2009-08-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 02:52:25PM +0100, Tim Rowe wrote: > A pop example presents obvious copyright issues. No; an *existing* commercial pop example has copyright issues. Using a copyleft pop song would be fine as long as we include the copyleft license issues (attribution, etc). Inventing a new

Re: Lilypond speed

2009-08-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 12:10:18PM -0300, hernan gonzalez wrote: > >> I read in the main.cc source that the GUILE start-up is very time > >> consumming. I > >> wonder if some modification in the code could be done so that the GUILE > >> startup > >> occurs once for several compilation cycles, som

tempo marks run off the page when combining global and instrument parts

2009-08-03 Thread Daryna Baikadamova
I am retypesetting orchestral parts. I create a "global" part which contains common stuff such as time signature, tempo, rehearsal marks volta and double bars. Then each instrument has its own part. To create an orchestral part, the global part is combined with the instrument part \score { \

Re: cannot end slur

2009-08-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Jonathan Stupid of me! I gave the correct analysis of your problem but the wrong solution! You should use a phrasing slur, \( .. \) instead of a slur, ( .. ). Then the acciaccatura slur doesn't get in the way. Trevor - Original Message - From: "Trevor Daniels" To: "Jonathan Wilkes

Re: cannot end slur

2009-08-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Jonathan The problem is that acciaccatura and appoggiatura are both slurred to the following note, and slurs cannot be nested. If you change the \acciaccatura to \grace (which isn't slurred to the following note) your slur will continue to the g. You can add the slash to the grace note with \o

Re: cannot end slur

2009-08-03 Thread Robin Bannister
A phrasing slur goes all the way. (Don't ask me why!) Cheers, Robin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

cannot end slur

2009-08-03 Thread Bill Mooney
Hi, I don't know why and wherefore - but removing the acciaccatura seems to allow the slur to fulfill itself - whether it is a matter of the acciaccatura making the staff too high, or a bug, or something more subtle I don't know enough about Lilypond to say, but I hope this helps. Regards

Re: Transpose Command

2009-08-03 Thread Mats Bengtsson
In addition to all the answers you have already received, you may also want to take a look at http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=266 (just as in the manual, you should click on the example score to see the corresponding .ly code). /Mats Amiable wrote: Amiable wrote: Hi, New user to L

Re: cannot end slur

2009-08-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Maybe in NR 1.3.2 under slurs there could be a warning at the bottom that says since \acciaccatura automatically creates a slur, you can't make an additional slur over it. Thanks for the explanation. -Jonathan --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Mats Bengtsson wrote: > From: Mats Bengtsson > Subject: Re

Re: website: why do you use lilypond?

2009-08-03 Thread Federico Bruni
Tim Rowe wrote: 2009/8/1 Federico Bruni : I'd be really glad to help with the tablature example. I think a modern piece would be better in this case, as tablature are used by modern guitarists. What about a Scott Joplin ragtime arranged for guitar? (it is in the public domain) I guess a good e

Re: French accents

2009-08-03 Thread James E. Bailey
On 02.08.2009, at 15:06, Graham Norton wrote: Dear All, The Unicodes are available from TeXShop > Edit > Special Characters (in MaC OS). Just select a character and let the mouse hover over it. (A total of 2820 glyphs can be obtained this way.) Here is a table of special French charac

Re: cannot end slur

2009-08-03 Thread James E. Bailey
On 03.08.2009, at 19:36, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Hello, I'm having trouble entering the following fragment of music: \version "2.12.2" \relative c'' { \time 3/4 \partial 32 cis32~( | cis4~ cis8~ \acciaccatura e' f~ f4 | f16 e \times 2/3 { f des a } \times 2/3 { e

Re: cannot end slur

2009-08-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 8/3/09, Jonathan Kulp wrote: > From: Jonathan Kulp > Subject: Re: cannot end slur > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" > Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 10:46 PM > > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:36 PM, > Jonathan Wilkes > wrote: > > > > Hello, > >     I'm havi

Option to not collapse lyrics & chords?

2009-08-03 Thread Tim Walters
When using Lyrics and ChordNames contexts, if there happen to be no lyrics or chord names in a system, the space they would take is "collapsed" vertically. This is usually the best option, but I'm currently working on a score where it produces an awkward result. Is there any way to prevent this, an

"triplet feel" symbol

2009-08-03 Thread Federico Bruni
I wonder if it's possible to tell lilypond to print the "triplet feel" symbol at the beginning of the score. I don't care having swing midi, I need just the symbol. I mean, something like this: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_TG7cLMAyug4/STO6exsyCuI/AA8/l2XfxJRpaDI/s320/triplet_feel_image.png

Re: cannot end slur

2009-08-03 Thread Mats Bengtsson
This is variation of a known problem, namely that you cannot have more than a single slur simultaneously and that the \acciaccatura draws a normal slur. If you want a slur that passes an \acciaccatura, use a \phrasing slur instead, i.e. use \( and \) instead of ( and ). Strangely enough, I cou

Re: cannot end slur

2009-08-03 Thread Jonathan Kulp
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > Hello, > I'm having trouble entering the following fragment of music: > > \version "2.12.2" > > \relative c'' { >\time 3/4 >\partial 32 cis32~( | >cis4~ cis8~ \acciaccatura e' f~ f4 | >f16 e \times 2/3

Re: quality of lilypond outputs of different WYSIWIG software

2009-08-03 Thread Federico Bruni
Helge Kruse wrote: I tried MuseScore 0.9.4. I save a simple file in Lilypond format and open the file again. MuseScore hung. There is a newer version 0.9.5 but the release notes does not say anything about bug fixing in .ly file handling. I think, as long as the program cannot read its own fi

Re: Aphex Twin deathWaltz

2009-08-03 Thread Tim Reeves
I don't know what Aphex Twin is, or what it has to do with the image, but I'd guess it's the name of a rock band. Am I right? I think one of the flutists in the community orchestra I play in had that on her stand at a rehearsal once so I thought it might be some kind of inside flute joke...but

cannot end slur

2009-08-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hello, I'm having trouble entering the following fragment of music: \version "2.12.2" \relative c'' { \time 3/4 \partial 32 cis32~( | cis4~ cis8~ \acciaccatura e' f~ f4 | f16 e \times 2/3 { f des a } \times 2/3 { e d c } aes32 g'16.) ees32 b g d e gis c e |

Re: French accents

2009-08-03 Thread Tim Rowe
2009/8/2 Graham Norton : > Dear All, > > The Unicodes are available from TeXShop > Edit > Special Characters (in MaC > OS). And on a PC, Charmap is your friend (installed with all recent versions of Windows I've used, although not always easy to find -- Start | Run and type "charmap" should do the

Re: How do you move a note horizontally?

2009-08-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
> There are various tricks involving invisible > notes or slurs which might be used to increase > the spacing between two notes in a monophonic > sequence, or maybe reading section 4.5 Horizontal > spacing in the Notation Reference will give some > better leads.  Which is best depends on the > pre

Re: quality of lilypond outputs of different WYSIWIG software

2009-08-03 Thread Helge Kruse
Daryna Baikadamova schrieb: There are many WYSIWIG software capable of opening and saving lilypond files, such as MuseScore, Denemo and Canorus. However what are the quality of their Lilypond inputs and outputs? Also when we talk about "quality", we often mean the accuracy, how well the feature

Re: Lilypond speed

2009-08-03 Thread hernan gonzalez
>> I read in the main.cc source that the GUILE start-up is very time >> consumming. I >> wonder if some modification in the code could be done so that the GUILE >> startup >> occurs once for several compilation cycles, something as (pseudocode) > > Yes, that's been done with the lilypond server.

Re: "anchors" in the music stream?

2009-08-03 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Werner LEMBERG wrote: Would it be technically feasible/possible to establish a system of "anchors" instead? This would be indeed a great feature! Reminds me of the GOTO command in BASIC! ;-) Seriously, I seem to recall that I proposed this feature some 11-12 years ago and at that H

Re: don't understand slur control-points

2009-08-03 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Trevor, thank You so much for Your excellent and easy understandable explanations! Now I know, where I have to turn the screws! Kind regards, Stefan 2009/8/3 Trevor Daniels > Stefan > > It is tricky if you don't understand Bezier curves, > but quite easy if messy once they are understood. >

Re: website: why do you use lilypond?

2009-08-03 Thread Tim Rowe
2009/8/1 Graham Percival : > Also, can you improve any examples?  I mean, the Goyescas / > Granados example and Cary / Baca examples look *wicked awesome*. > In contrast, the tablature example bores me to tears, the vocal > music example is probably missing a / accent in "trou-ve", etc. A pop exa

Re: website: why do you use lilypond?

2009-08-03 Thread Tim Rowe
2009/8/1 Federico Bruni : > I'd be really glad to help with the tablature example. > I think a modern piece would be better in this case, as tablature are used > by modern guitarists. > What about a Scott Joplin ragtime arranged for guitar? (it is in the public > domain) > > I guess a good example

quality of lilypond outputs of different WYSIWIG software

2009-08-03 Thread Daryna Baikadamova
There are many WYSIWIG software capable of opening and saving lilypond files, such as MuseScore, Denemo and Canorus. However what are the quality of their Lilypond inputs and outputs? Also when we talk about "quality", we often mean the accuracy, how well the features are preserved, and how easy

Re: How do you move a note horizontally?

2009-08-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Helge Kruse wrote Monday, August 03, 2009 12:21 PM Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Ok, trying it right now... --- On Wed, 7/29/09, Nick Payne wrote: From: Nick Payne Subject: RE: How do you move a note horizontally? To: "'Jonathan Wilkes'" , lilypond-user@gnu.org Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009,

Re: bad page turns

2009-08-03 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
2009/8/3 Daryna Baikadamova : > If have have a typeset page, and it has some bad page turns, how can I > tweak the outputs to control where the page turns are? You can define \goodbreak and/or \badbreak and use them in your scores. goodbreak = { \break } badbreak = { \noBreak } Similarly, there a

Re: chord slides

2009-08-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Patrick Schmidt wrote Monday, August 03, 2009 9:24 AM Subject: Re: chord slides thank you very much for your solution. I managed to achieve what I wanted without fully understanding of what's going on. Here's the code: \version "2.13.3" \relative c' { \new Staff << \new Voice = "visible"

Re: How do you move a note horizontally?

2009-08-03 Thread Helge Kruse
Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Ok, trying it right now... --- On Wed, 7/29/09, Nick Payne wrote: From: Nick Payne Subject: RE: How do you move a note horizontally? To: "'Jonathan Wilkes'" , lilypond-user@gnu.org Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 10:25 PM \once \override NoteColumn #'force-hshift = #x

Re: don't understand slur control-points

2009-08-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Stefan It is tricky if you don't understand Bezier curves, but quite easy if messy once they are understood. Have you read "Modifying ties and slurs" in section 5.5.4 "Modifying shapes" in the Notation Reference? That gives some clues. It also helps to Google for Bezier curves. In the end thou

bad page turns

2009-08-03 Thread Daryna Baikadamova
If have have a typeset page, and it has some bad page turns, how can I tweak the outputs to control where the page turns are? Thanks! Daryna ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

don't understand slur control-points

2009-08-03 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear community, I have a problem with a slur, which doesn't look nice, as You can see in the below quoted snippet. Off course I know, that I can change the ceontrol-points. I tried to understand their meaning, but without success. Could someone, please, give me a hint? Thanks, Stefan \version "2.1

Re: chord slides

2009-08-03 Thread Patrick Schmidt
Trevor, thank you very much for your solution. I managed to achieve what I wanted without fully understanding of what's going on. Here's the code: \version "2.13.3" \relative c' { \new Staff << \new Voice = "visible" { e,16[ e \once \override Glissando #'minimum-length = #5 \