Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> (1) If you reduce this to a single keyword, then don't allow the > bare argument "3": \times 3 looks like \times 3/1 to me; so of > course, I'm a dodo, but I predict that Mats & Erik & several others > would wind up spending a lot of time explaining what "\times 7" (or > "\tuplet 7") means. Ind

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-19 Thread Graham Percival
Mats Bengtsson wrote: Werner LEMBERG wrote: \tuplet 3:2 {...} One minor detail is that the name isn't exactly appropriate when you do \set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 4) \times 2/3 {c8 d e f e d e f g f e d }>>> I thought the proposal was to completely get rid of \tim

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-19 Thread Graham Percival
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Jonathan Henkelman escreveu: I think Eriks point is actually well founded. The discussion started with my discussion of trying to trim down the grammer complexity. Adding syntax is not really in that direction. Another option: - add \tuplet 3:2 {.. } - replace \

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-19 Thread stk
> I don't mind changing \times to \tuplet, and agree that the confusion > with \time is a bad thing. We could make \tuplet accept 3:2 2/3 and 3. Opinion -- (1) If you reduce this to a single keyword, then don't allow the bare argument "3": \times 3 looks like \times 3/1 to me; so of course, I'm

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I think these changes sound scary, it is an additional hack in the > parser machinery. Why do you think so? Sometimes syntactic sugar is essential to make certain situations more comprehensible. Just think of TeX's `=' mark in things like \count\foo=1 which can be omitted. > I think it w

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-19 Thread Frédéric Chiasson
Might be an idea, but why should we keep two functions making the same function? Does it cost that much on functionality to use two differents syntax in the same function? Frédéric 2006/12/19, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Jonathan Henkelman escreveu: > Erik Sandberg gmail.com> writ

newbie questions

2006-12-19 Thread luis jure
hello list, i'm new to lilypond and this is my first message to the list. first of all, a big thank you to all the developers and contributors for this great software. i've been reading the documentation and i've been able to begin typesetting a simple piano piece in traditional notation. there

Re: \mark in last measure does not show text

2006-12-19 Thread Nick Didkovsky
Quothe Mats offlist : === To print the mark at the end of the current line, use \override Score.RehearsalMark #'break-visibility = #begin-of-line-invisible === Best Nick D Nick Didkovsky wrote: Hello I want a rehearsal mark to sh

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-19 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Jonathan Henkelman escreveu: > Erik Sandberg gmail.com> writes: > >> I think these changes sound scary, it is an additional hack in the parser >> machinery. I think it would be cleaner if \times could be changed to a > proper >> music function, e.g. as >> \tuplet 2 3 {...} >> This would remove

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-19 Thread Jonathan Henkelman
Erik Sandberg gmail.com> writes: > I think these changes sound scary, it is an additional hack in the parser > machinery. I think it would be cleaner if \times could be changed to a proper > music function, e.g. as > \tuplet 2 3 {...} > This would remove rules from the parser instead of adding

Re: Lyrics in poly

2006-12-19 Thread Eduardo Vieira
Citando David Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ezequiel Sierra wrote: > > >The thing is that the music is a hymn so i cant make different lines > >of lyrics for different voices > > Ezequiel, it's hard to understand what you really want. I sent the file 001-modif.ly and it doesn't seem you are tryin

Horizontal spacing

2006-12-19 Thread Bertalan Fodor
Hello, how can I change the horizontal spacing of a Staff or Voice in a way it doesn't modify other staffs? I mean overriding Score.SeparationItem #'padding will not come good. I just want to enlarge the space somewhere and reduce some other place. I tried s16 and setting time back with \set S

Fwd: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-19 Thread Frédéric Chiasson
-- Forwarded message -- From: Frédéric Chiasson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 19 déc. 2006 17:45 Subject: Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah, I prefer to keep the punctuation ":" and "/" to avoid confusion. Frédéric 2006/12/19, Erik Sandberg <[EMAI

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-19 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 10:57, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > Werner LEMBERG escreveu: > >> I suppose you could add the command \times 3:2 {a b c} to do exactly > >> the same as \times 2/3 {a b c} [...] > > > > If at all, then > > > > \tuplet 3:2 {...} > > I don't mind changing \times to \tuplet,

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > Well, in that case just stay with \times. > > I thought the proposal was to completely get rid of \times and > replace it by \tuplet (which I think is a good idea). Just wanted to > see if anybody had any bright idea on a command name that's accurate > also in this special case. Han-Wen says

Re: Lyrics in poly

2006-12-19 Thread David Rogers
Ezequiel Sierra wrote: >The thing is that the music is a hymn so i cant make different lines >of lyrics for different voices But you don't need to - that's my whole point. Forget the whole idea of making a syllable line up with the alto note. The singers don't care, and it doesn't matter. Ju

Re: Lyrics in poly

2006-12-19 Thread David Rogers
Ezequiel Sierra wrote: >look in the upper voice the bes8 will only have the word "el" from >"siem pre el" and "pre" should go in the second f on the lower > >get it? Yes, now I get it exactly. It doesn't work this way. The alto needs its own (new, separate) line of lyrics, if you want it diff

Re: Lyrics in poly

2006-12-19 Thread Ezequiel Sierra
look in the upper voice the bes8 will only have the word "el" from "siem pre el" and "pre" should go in the second f on the lower get it? On Dec 19, 2006, at 4:41 PM, Mats Bengtsson wrote: Ezequiel Sierra wrote: David in the second system there are 5 notes in ther first meassure what

Re: Lyrics in poly

2006-12-19 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Ezequiel Sierra wrote: David in the second system there are 5 notes in ther first meassure what im trying to do is to place the lyrics in all five notes I don't understand. Do you mean the music to "Siem -- pre el la -- bio ..."? There, in the upper stave, the upper voice is bes'4. bes8 bes

Re: Lyrics in poly

2006-12-19 Thread Ezequiel Sierra
David in the second system there are 5 notes in ther first meassure what im trying to do is to place the lyrics in all five notes On Dec 19, 2006, at 4:15 PM, David Rogers wrote: Ezequiel Sierra wrote: could you maile me the example then? Sorry, but I think I misunderstood your other messa

Re: Lyrics in poly

2006-12-19 Thread David Rogers
Ezequiel Sierra wrote: >could you maile me the example then? Sorry, but I think I misunderstood your other message. I don't know if associatedVoice works, or even how it works. I only know that Eduardo's example (which he already sent) works fine, when you correct some missing hyphens and some

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-19 Thread David Rogers
Paul Scott wrote: >Is it relevant that ':' and '/' actually both mean divide? In music, an expression like 3:2 has a specific, universally-agreed-upon meaning. Therefore, IMO, a broader mathematical meaning is not really important in this context. David _

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-19 Thread Frédéric Chiasson
I tried the function and I don't see any incoherence using \tuplet instead of \times in this situation. Maybe I don't understand the point well. For me, I wouldn't mid at all to replace entirely the \times function by a \tuplet function, giving both options of using a fraction (2/3) or the engrav

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-19 Thread Frédéric Chiasson
Maybe, but it is more that it is "7:8" that would be engraved, and not "7/8". So it is alright to separate both options. 2006/12/19, Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > Werner LEMBERG escreveu: > >>> I suppose you could add the command \times 3:2 {a b c} to do exactly >>>

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-19 Thread Paul Scott
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Werner LEMBERG escreveu: I suppose you could add the command \times 3:2 {a b c} to do exactly the same as \times 2/3 {a b c} [...] If at all, then \tuplet 3:2 {...} I don't mind changing \times to \tuplet, and agree that the confusion with \time is a

Re: Lyrics in poly

2006-12-19 Thread Ezequiel Sierra
could you maile me the example then? On Dec 19, 2006, at 2:49 AM, David Rogers wrote: Ezequiel Sierra wrote: nop it dosent work :( On Dec 18, 2006, at 9:25 PM, Eduardo Vieira wrote: associatedVoice Yes, it does work. I tried Eduardo's example myself. David ___

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-19 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Werner LEMBERG wrote: \tuplet 3:2 {...} One minor detail is that the name isn't exactly appropriate when you do \set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 4) \times 2/3 {c8 d e f e d e f g f e d } Well, in that case just stay with \times. I thought the proposal was t

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-19 Thread Eyolf Ostrem
On Tue 19 December 2006 10:57, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > This should be a rather trivial change, so once we have consensus on the > list I consent. I don't mind the current syntax, but \tuplet is definitely more clear than \times. Eyolf -- It is Mr. Mellon's credo that $200,000,000 can do no

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> We could make \tuplet accept 3:2 2/3 and 3. Good! > This should be a rather trivial change, so once we have consensus on > the list I would welcome a patch. Not before Xmas :-( Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > \tuplet 3:2 {...} > > > > One minor detail is that the name isn't exactly appropriate when you > do > \set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 4) > \times 2/3 {c8 d e f e d e f g f e d } Well, in that case just stay with \times. Werner

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-19 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Werner LEMBERG escreveu: >> I suppose you could add the command \times 3:2 {a b c} to do exactly >> the same as \times 2/3 {a b c} [...] > > If at all, then > > \tuplet 3:2 {...} I don't mind changing \times to \tuplet, and agree that the confusion with \time is a bad thing. We could make \tu

Re: Lilypond API

2006-12-19 Thread Luc
Luc, When I did this for Context I scanned the manual and all the regression test cases, it took me a while to do it. I'm using Context, but I'd be interested in trying Notepad++ also as a backup. Can you maybe upload the configuration files for Notepad/lilypond at some point for others to use?

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-19 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Werner LEMBERG wrote: If at all, then \tuplet 3:2 {...} One minor detail is that the name isn't exactly appropriate when you do \set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 4) \times 2/3 {c8 d e f e d e f g f e d } /Mats ___ lilypond

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> On the contrary, I think making mathematical sense serves a very > practical purpose: it is more consistent with the non-tuplet method > of scaling duration and it is (at least for me) easier to remember. Mhmm. > In LilyPond, if I want to print a half note but I only want it to > use the durat