Re: note-spacing: stretch somewhat uniformly; issue 3304 (issue 36830045)

2013-12-16 Thread k-ohara5a5a
Reviewers: MikeSol, Message: On 2013/12/16 07:42:52, MikeSol wrote: If you understand this stuff, could you put a comment in lily/include/spring.hh as to what inverse_compress_strength and inverse_stretch_strength are? They are the stretchability and compressibility of the space. Next time

Re: note-spacing: stretch somewhat uniformly; issue 3304 (issue 36830045)

2013-12-16 Thread Mike Solomon
On Dec 16, 2013, at 10:24 AM, k-ohara5...@oco.net wrote: > Reviewers: MikeSol, > > Message: > On 2013/12/16 07:42:52, MikeSol wrote: > >> If you understand this stuff, could you put a comment in > lily/include/spring.hh >> as to what inverse_compress_strength and inverse_stretch_strength are? >

Re: Fwd: Re: Website improvements, part 1

2013-12-16 Thread Urs Liska
Am 16.12.2013 04:35, schrieb David Kastrup: I'd lean towards applications. Basically, it seems to be "LilyPond as a building block" but that's too long for a tab name. That's the problem: All suggestions that "hit the spot" need phrases and not single words. But IISC "Applications" it the t

Adds outside-staff-interface and outside-staff-axis-group-interface (issue 37950044)

2013-12-16 Thread dak
The summary seems incompatible with http://music.stackexchange.com/a/14160/8773> Once an interface is required for outside-staffing a grob, the set of grobs one can use in that manner is hardwired to the "intended" grobs. https://codereview.appspot.com/37950044/

Re: Adds outside-staff-interface and outside-staff-axis-group-interface (issue 37950044)

2013-12-16 Thread tdanielsmusic
I applaud this! Properties in an interface which were not honoured when processing certain grobs which purported to implement that interface really irritated me when trying to write documentation. Trevor https://codereview.appspot.com/37950044/ ___

Re: Adds outside-staff-interface and outside-staff-axis-group-interface (issue 37950044)

2013-12-16 Thread Mike Solomon
On Dec 16, 2013, at 11:45 AM, d...@gnu.org wrote: > The summary seems incompatible with > http://music.stackexchange.com/a/14160/8773> > > Once an interface is required for outside-staffing a grob, the set of > grobs one can use in that manner is hardwired to the "intended" grobs. This is true.

Re: Adds outside-staff-interface and outside-staff-axis-group-interface (issue 37950044)

2013-12-16 Thread Mike Solomon
On Dec 16, 2013, at 11:56 AM, tdanielsmu...@googlemail.com wrote: > I applaud this! Properties in an interface which > were not honoured when processing certain grobs > which purported to implement that interface really > irritated me when trying to write documentation. > > Trevor > > > https

Re: Fwd: Re: Website improvements, part 1

2013-12-16 Thread Urs Liska
Am 16.12.2013 04:15, schrieb Graham Percival: On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 01:57:23PM +0100, Urs Liska wrote: Am 12.12.2013 04:19, schrieb Graham Percival: ok. I also like the "applicances" tab, although I agree with you that the name might be ideal (but I also can't think of a better name right no

Re: Adds outside-staff-interface and outside-staff-axis-group-interface (issue 37950044)

2013-12-16 Thread dak
On 2013/12/16 09:58:40, mike7 wrote: On Dec 16, 2013, at 11:45 AM, mailto:d...@gnu.org wrote: > The summary seems incompatible with > http://music.stackexchange.com/a/14160/8773> > > Once an interface is required for outside-staffing a grob, the set of > grobs one can use in that manner is h

Re: Web: Download: Add introductory text (issue 40510046)

2013-12-16 Thread Urs Liska
Am 16.12.2013 04:31, schrieb Graham Percival: On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:29:44AM +0800, Graham Percival wrote: Urs Liska writes: I don't want to imagine what happens if I propose my rewrite of the Features page (http://www.openlilylib.org/lilyweb/features.html). A rewrite of a single page ha

Re: Fwd: Re: Website improvements, part 1

2013-12-16 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Am 16.12.2013 04:15, schrieb Graham Percival: >> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 01:57:23PM +0100, Urs Liska wrote: >>> Am 12.12.2013 04:19, schrieb Graham Percival: ok. I also like the "applicances" tab, although I agree with you that the name might be ideal (but I also ca

Re: Web: Download: Add introductory text (issue 40510046)

2013-12-16 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Peterson writes: > On Dec 16, 2013 12:16 AM, "Graham Percival" > wrote: >> >> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 01:23:51PM +0100, Urs Liska wrote: >> > It was consensus that new users should actively be encouraged to >> > download one of the complete environments, namely Frescobaldi or >> > Denemo, w

Re: Fwd: Re: Website improvements, part 1

2013-12-16 Thread Urs Liska
Am 16.12.2013 11:11, schrieb David Kastrup: As said in another reply I have the impression that "Applications" is >what the majority of commenters would suggest. Although I've got two >"votes" for "Other uses", which might also be quite telling when seen >as a menu item. It's more like "Internal

Re: Adds outside-staff-interface and outside-staff-axis-group-interface (issue 37950044)

2013-12-16 Thread Mike Solomon
On Dec 16, 2013, at 12:07 PM, d...@gnu.org wrote: > On 2013/12/16 09:58:40, mike7 wrote: >> On Dec 16, 2013, at 11:45 AM, mailto:d...@gnu.org wrote: > >> > The summary seems incompatible with >> > http://music.stackexchange.com/a/14160/8773> >> > >> > Once an interface is required for outside-sta

Re: Web: Download: Add introductory text (issue 40510046)

2013-12-16 Thread Urs Liska
Am 16.12.2013 10:25, schrieb David Kastrup: Just thinking out loud here...would it be worth looking into tweaking the >.htaccess file to do OS-based redirection on the download page, like many >sites do? That way, if someone requests download.html, they are redirected >to download-win.html if the

Re: Web: Download: Add introductory text (issue 40510046)

2013-12-16 Thread Urs Liska
Am 15.12.2013 19:48, schrieb David Kastrup: Urs Liska writes: ... Viewed from the very narrow perspective of the actual patch there isn't much I can argue against "People should read Text Input and if they don't we can't help them/we should help them find that page" or "this kind of stuff sho

Re: Web: Download: Add introductory text (issue 40510046)

2013-12-16 Thread Urs Liska
Am 16.12.2013 04:29, schrieb Graham Percival: I don't want to imagine what happens if I propose my rewrite of the > >Features page (http://www.openlilylib.org/lilyweb/features.html). A rewrite of a single page has less impact than changing the intended flow of a new reader through the website.

Re: Web: Download: Add introductory text (issue 40510046)

2013-12-16 Thread Urs Liska
Am 16.12.2013 06:15, schrieb Graham Percival: On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 01:23:51PM +0100, Urs Liska wrote: Am 15.12.2013 06:47, schrieb Graham Percival: 2) they noticed the existing, read the "text input" page, but were still confused. Solution: improve the "text input" page. I think the only

Re: Web: Download: Add introductory text (issue 40510046)

2013-12-16 Thread Urs Liska
Am 16.12.2013 07:46, schrieb Paul Morris: Graham Percival-3 wrote Maybe another whole page about "sample usage", or something like that? Maybe this should even be split: One dedicated page explaining the concept of IDEs, similar to the Text Input page but less elaborate, and another page that

Re: Web: Download: Add introductory text (issue 40510046)

2013-12-16 Thread Urs Liska
Am 16.12.2013 07:53, schrieb David Kastrup: Paul Morris writes: Here's how I would reword the warning to make it as concrete and simple as possible: Note: With LilyPond you write and edit music by typing text with your keyboard, not by dragging notes around with a mouse. It's not just simpl

Re: Website questions: Manual->Web

2013-12-16 Thread Urs Liska
Am 14.12.2013 12:20, schrieb Phil Holmes: - lilypond.org/web/ : the old website What is this old stuff good for? Confusing search engines into misleading people there seems to be its main purpose nowadays. It's not totally clear whether it has other functions at the moment that could disrup

Re: Website questions: GSoC

2013-12-16 Thread Urs Liska
Am 14.12.2013 08:56, schrieb James: On 14/12/13 07:14, Urs Liska wrote: Am 14.12.2013 04:53, schrieb Graham Percival: On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 02:06:38PM +0100, Urs Liska wrote: The page "GSoC 2012" is obviously outdated. What should be done with it? I suggest deleting it. There's no evidenc

PATCHES countdown

2013-12-16 Thread James
Hello, I haven't forgotten, I just need to defer this to this evening if that is OK? James ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Update documentation for MIDI articulations. (issue 38420044)

2013-12-16 Thread tdanielsmusic
LGTM, apart from a slight rewording. https://codereview.appspot.com/38420044/diff/1/Documentation/notation/input.itely File Documentation/notation/input.itely (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/38420044/diff/1/Documentation/notation/input.itely#newcode2891 Documentation/notation/input.itel

Re: Web: Download: Add introductory text (issue 40510046)

2013-12-16 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Based on my patch: > "LilyPond is a **command line application** and does not constitute a > working environment. Apart from LilyPond itself you'll need a suitable > editor. ..." The problem I'm running into is that I see a conflict between being accurate and writing in terms

Website: rewrite Features page (issue 42770043)

2013-12-16 Thread lilyliska
Reviewers: , Message: This is much like the page I presented earlier at (http://openlilylib.org/lilyweb/features.html), with some minor modifications, and within the existing navigational structure Description: This is a rewrite of the Features page in order to make the structure of this page cl

Re: PATCHES countdown

2013-12-16 Thread David Kastrup
James writes: > Hello, > > I haven't forgotten, I just need to defer this to this evening if that > is OK? Well, Phil is occupied on the next weekend (probably like most musicians). So we are not in a rush, and most work that is being done is not for 2.18 anyway. We still have some broken thin

Re: Website questions: Manual->Web

2013-12-16 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Urs Liska" To: "Phil Holmes" ; "David Kastrup" Cc: "Graham Percival" ; "LilyPond Development Team" Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 11:26 AM Subject: Re: Website questions: Manual->Web Am 14.12.2013 12:20, schrieb Phil Holmes: - lilypond.org/web/ : the

Re: Issue 3641: Keep only one Axis_group_engraver active (issue 20500043)

2013-12-16 Thread k-ohara5a5a
https://codereview.appspot.com/20500043/diff/20001/lily/vertical-align-engraver.cc File lily/vertical-align-engraver.cc (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/20500043/diff/20001/lily/vertical-align-engraver.cc#newcode99 lily/vertical-align-engraver.cc:99: The contexts with a Vertical_align_eng

Re: Issue 3641: Keep only one Axis_group_engraver active (issue 20500043)

2013-12-16 Thread dak
https://codereview.appspot.com/20500043/diff/20001/lily/vertical-align-engraver.cc File lily/vertical-align-engraver.cc (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/20500043/diff/20001/lily/vertical-align-engraver.cc#newcode99 lily/vertical-align-engraver.cc:99: On 2013/12/16 18:05:17, Keith wrote:

Re: Web: Download: Add introductory text (issue 40510046)

2013-12-16 Thread Carl Peterson
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 4:25 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > Carl Peterson writes: >> Just thinking out loud here...would it be worth looking into tweaking the >> .htaccess file to do OS-based redirection on the download page, like many >> sites do? That way, if someone requests download.html, they ar

Re: the PO files of lilypond (resending)

2013-12-16 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude
Le 15/12/2013 21:49, Francisco Vila disait : 2013/12/15 Benno Schulenberg Hello Francisco and Jean-Charles, On 2013-12-15 16:54, Francisco Vila wrote: This is correct. Translation of PO files (which we use to maintain translations of the binary executable of lilypond -- not the translations

can anyone work on Lyric bounties (GSoC, etc.)?

2013-12-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello all, A large proportion of my compositions and arrangements include voice. There are certain (one might almost say “many”) things about Lily’s vocal engraving engine that need fixing. Hence I was very excited when Janek took that part of Lily on during his Google Summer of Code stint. How

Re: can anyone work on Lyric bounties (GSoC, etc.)?

2013-12-16 Thread Urs Liska
Am 16.12.2013 21:26, schrieb Kieren MacMillan: and Janek (who is "on sabbatical” due to physical problems) Just to clarify: Janek is "on sabbatical" because sometimes he has to follow the demands of a life beyond LilyPond (concretely a two month internship). His "physical problems" are rathe

PATCHES: Countdown for December 19th - 06:00 GMT

2013-12-16 Thread James
Hello *Countdown -- December 16th -- 06:00 GMT* * * * * * * * * * * 3713

.bib files in our Web/Doc pages - how to edit?

2013-12-16 Thread James
Hello, I'd like to add our Turkish Professor's book to the Publications and am unsure about the syntax/format of the syntax. So for example one entry that exists is: @inproceedings{reinhold01, title = {OrchestralLily: A Package for Professional Music Publishing with LilyPond and LATEX},

Re: .bib files in our Web/Doc pages - how to edit?

2013-12-16 Thread Urs Liska
Am 16.12.2013 22:28, schrieb James: Hello, I'd like to add our Turkish Professor's book to the Publications and am unsure about the syntax/format of the syntax. So for example one entry that exists is: @inproceedings{reinhold01, title = {OrchestralLily: A Package for Professional Music Publ

Re: Issue 3641: Keep only one Axis_group_engraver active (issue 20500043)

2013-12-16 Thread k-ohara5a5a
On 2013/12/16 18:16:54, dak wrote: https://codereview.appspot.com/20500043/diff/20001/lily/vertical-align-engraver.cc#newcode99 lily/vertical-align-engraver.cc:99: On 2013/12/16 18:05:17, Keith wrote: > > This removal of the Vertical_align_engraver looks like a convenience feature, > just for