Re: build: missing explicit dependency?

2013-03-10 Thread Federico Bruni
Il 10/03/2013 01:44, Julien Rioux ha scritto: Yes, CG does lists metapost. But this peckage was not auto-installed as a dependency from other previous packages. I agree that this looks like something that the configure script should have caught. Thanks for reporting it, we should open an issue

Re: [translations] Re: Merging translation and new \relative

2013-03-10 Thread David Kastrup
Jean-Charles Malahieude writes: > Le 09/03/2013 18:03, David Kastrup disait : >> Jean-Charles Malahieude writes: >> >>> Hi David, >>> >>> What would be more appropriate to have >>> master->translation->staging ? >>> >>> Before applying tracker 3229, between 3229 and 3231, or after 3231? >> >> [.

Re: Staging broken - fails make doc

2013-03-10 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude
Le 10/03/2013 08:00, David Kastrup disait : David Kastrup writes: Removed that commit from staging. It should be fixed in the translation branch. I mean: it is currently broken in the translation branch and should get fixed in the translation branch before trying the merge again. Now fix

Re: Back on board

2013-03-10 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Ian Hulin" To: Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 3:38 PM Subject: Back on board Hi all, This is just to let you know I'm finally back home working from my desktop machine after a long break without access to an Internet connection. I'm just catching up with

Re: Alternative pixel-based regtest checker

2013-03-10 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Julien Rioux" To: "LilyPond Devel" Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 12:50 AM Subject: Re: Alternative pixel-based regtest checker On 01/03/2013 2:15 PM, Phil Holmes wrote: 4 files attached. To try this out: create a new directory and place NoTagline.ly in it

Re: Suggested patch to make midiMaximumVolume take effect without initial dynamic

2013-03-10 Thread James
Anders On 9 March 2013 19:57, Anders Pilegaard wrote: > Hello all. > > This is getting a bit long, so here's a brief overview of what's in > this mail: > > - I'm proposing a patch ... > Thanks for that. You'll likely get (more) reviews and comments if you use our normal process, see: http://

Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread David Kastrup
Ok folks, it is this time of the year again: I am trying to make myself unpopular. 2.16 is growing old. Now you might go "Huh?", but here are salient points: a) \override/\revert syntax is increasingly becoming an issue on the mailing list. There are also related commands that are affected.

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 10 mars 2013, at 18:32, David Kastrup wrote: > > Ok folks, it is this time of the year again: I am trying to make myself > unpopular. There's a time of the year for that? > It also means that commits of the "this really does nothing, but it > prepares the ground for $xxx, and I don't know j

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread David Kastrup
"m...@mikesolomon.org" writes: > On 10 mars 2013, at 18:32, David Kastrup wrote: > > Ok folks, it is this time of the year again: I am trying to make > myself > unpopular. > > There's a time of the year for that? > > It also means that commits of the "this really does nothing, bu

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 10.03.2013 18:32, schrieb David Kastrup: Ok folks, it is this time of the year again: I am trying to make myself unpopular. [...] So I want to see 2.18 soon. That means we need to stabilize work that has already been done and cut down on experiments in the master branch. Stabilizing means

GUB error with unpure-pure-container.cc

2013-03-10 Thread Phil Holmes
I accidentally mucked up some of my GUB set up, so have been essentially rebuilding from scratch. In doing so, I get this error: /home/gub/gub/target/darwin-ppc/src/lilypond-git.sv.gnu.org--lilypond.git-release-unstable/lily/unpure-pure-container.cc:140: error: initializing argument 2 of 'vo

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread mike
On 10 mars 2013, at 18:54, David Kastrup wrote: > "m...@mikesolomon.org" writes: > >> On 10 mars 2013, at 18:32, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> Ok folks, it is this time of the year again: I am trying to make >> myself >> unpopular. >> >> There's a time of the year for that? >> >> It a

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread David Kastrup
Marc Hohl writes: > Am 10.03.2013 18:32, schrieb David Kastrup: >> Ok folks, it is this time of the year again: I am trying to make myself >> unpopular. >> >> [...] >> >> So I want to see 2.18 soon. That means we need to stabilize work that >> has already been done and cut down on experiments in

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 10.03.2013 20:56, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl writes: Am 10.03.2013 18:32, schrieb David Kastrup: Ok folks, it is this time of the year again: I am trying to make myself unpopular. [...] So I want to see 2.18 soon. That means we need to stabilize work that has already been done and

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread David Kastrup
m...@mikesolomon.org writes: > On 10 mars 2013, at 18:54, David Kastrup wrote: > >> "m...@mikesolomon.org" writes: >> >>> On 10 mars 2013, at 18:32, David Kastrup wrote: >>> >>> Ok folks, it is this time of the year again: I am trying to make >>> myself >>> unpopular. >>> >>> There's a

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 10 March 2013 20:56, David Kastrup wrote: > > I think there have been two issues crystallized out from it. > > a) \bar "|:" and \bar ":|" are a frequent cause for surprise, and the >return value one gets for dealing with that surprise, a direct way >for specifying the desired look for t

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> So, to resume, I agree that a freeze is important. When the freeze > kicks in, I'd rather that we say something like "no new big projects > starting on date X will be part of 2.18" so that developers can plan > out their next few months accordingly. +1 Werner ___

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread David Kastrup
Xavier Scheuer writes: > On 10 March 2013 20:56, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> I think there have been two issues crystallized out from it. >> >> a) \bar "|:" and \bar ":|" are a frequent cause for surprise, and the >>return value one gets for dealing with that surprise, a direct way >>for

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >> So, to resume, I agree that a freeze is important. When the freeze >> kicks in, I'd rather that we say something like "no new big projects >> starting on date X will be part of 2.18" so that developers can plan >> out their next few months accordingly. > > +1 Well, "ne

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I just put out the announcement because I feel we should now stop > accumulating stuff that will require half a year to reach a stable > state. We need to focus on dealing with what we have in the queue > right now rather than heaving new things into master that will be > beneficial to end user

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 10 March 2013 22:05, David Kastrup wrote: > > (snip) > > If a refined interface can defuse these cases as well, it would > certainly seem like a good step to take. Thank you for this wise message. > Well, the question is always the balance between gain and pain. Where > the pain is not an im

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >> I just put out the announcement because I feel we should now stop >> accumulating stuff that will require half a year to reach a stable >> state. We need to focus on dealing with what we have in the queue >> right now rather than heaving new things into master that will

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 6:32 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > Ok folks, it is this time of the year again: I am trying to make myself > unpopular. > > I want to see 2.18 soon. That means we need to stabilize work that > has already been done and cut down on experiments in the master branch. I agr

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >> So, to resume, I agree that a freeze is important. When the freeze >> kicks in, I'd rather that we say something like "no new big projects >> starting on date X will be part of 2.18" so that developers can plan >> out their next few months accordingly. > > +1 Actually,

Re: Suggested patch to make midiMaximumVolume take effect without initial dynamic

2013-03-10 Thread James
Hello, On 10 March 2013 21:58, Anders Pilegaard wrote: > On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 3:12 PM, James wrote: > >> >> You'll likely get (more) reviews and comments if you use our normal >> process, see: >> >> >> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/contributor-big-page.html#uploading-a-patch-fo

Re: GUB error with unpure-pure-container.cc

2013-03-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 06:22:57PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: > /home/gub/gub/target/darwin-ppc/src/lilypond-git.sv.gnu.org--lilypond.git-release-unstable/lily/unpure-pure-container.cc:140: > error: initializing argument 2 of 'void > scm_set_smob_apply(scm_t_bits, scm_unused_struct* (*)(...), unsi

API for getting various kinds of grobs

2013-03-10 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, since Mike is very busy i decided to post some of my questions to the list. I'm working on simplifying self_alignment_interface - i hope to unify different methods that are used now into one versatile and more powerful method. Currently virtually all grobs are aligned relative to their parent

Re: GUB error with unpure-pure-container.cc

2013-03-10 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 06:22:57PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: >> /home/gub/gub/target/darwin-ppc/src/lilypond-git.sv.gnu.org--lilypond.git-release-unstable/lily/unpure-pure-container.cc:140: >> error: initializing argument 2 of 'void >> scm_set_smob_apply(scm_t_bits, sc

Re: API for getting various kinds of grobs

2013-03-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> What i would like: specify the reference grob in a property, for > example > > \override LyricText #'align-to = #'Stem > > and then have one callback function that would be smart enough to > find appropriate grob to use and feed it to the method calculating > alignment. >From an API point of