Re: Autobeaming

2009-12-29 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen writes: > Then, if desired, the user can change the values of beatLength, > measureGrouping, or autoBeamRules, they can do so directly by means of > the \set command. > > If a user wants to change the timeSignatureSettings values for beatLength, > measureGrouping, or autoBeamRules,

Re: Autobeaming

2009-12-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Carl This looks like a much better approach. It means the special \overrideTimeSignatureSettings will be required only rarely, and setting autoBeamRules for just the current time signature should have a much simpler format as the time signature is known - is that right? Trevor - Origina

Re: [frogs] Corrected patch for Issue #830

2009-12-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Mark Polesky schrieb: Marc Hohl wrote: By the way, it would be easier for you developers when the patches go directly to rietveld. How can I archieve this? Does somebody need to create an account for me? See CG "Adding or modifying features"; scroll down to 8.7.9 "Post patch for commen

Re: Autobeaming

2009-12-29 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/29/09 4:48 AM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: > Hi Carl > > This looks like a much better approach. It means the > special \overrideTimeSignatureSettings will be required > only rarely, and setting autoBeamRules for just the > current time signature should have a much simpler > format as the

Re: Autobeaming

2009-12-29 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/29/09 1:40 AM, "David Kastrup" wrote: > Carl Sorensen writes: > >> Then, if desired, the user can change the values of beatLength, >> measureGrouping, or autoBeamRules, they can do so directly by means of >> the \set command. >> >> If a user wants to change the timeSignatureSettings v

Re: Autobeaming

2009-12-29 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/29/09 8:41 AM, "Carl Sorensen" wrote: > > > > > On 12/29/09 4:48 AM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: > >> Hi Carl >> >> This looks like a much better approach. It means the >> special \overrideTimeSignatureSettings will be required >> only rarely, and setting autoBeamRules for just the >

Re: [PATCH] Use find ... | xargs rm -f instead of find ... -delete

2009-12-29 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 08:16:37AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > > - find $(outdir)/offline-root -type l -delete > > + find $(outdir)/offline-root -type l | xargs rm -f > > endif # ifeq ($(out),www) > > What's the rationale? The `-delete' primary isn't very portable, it's a GNU extension.

Re: Autobeaming

2009-12-29 Thread Hans Aberg
On 29 Dec 2009, at 03:11, Carl Sorensen wrote: Does this seem like a feasible architecture? I think a system that determines the measure from the time signature is fundamentally flawed. I think n terms of a \meter that can be used to define the beaming structure. I substructure of that is

Re: [PATCH] Use find ... | xargs rm -f instead of find ... -delete

2009-12-29 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 08:00:46PM +0100, Matthias Kilian wrote: > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 08:16:37AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > > > - find $(outdir)/offline-root -type l -delete > > > + find $(outdir)/offline-root -type l | xargs rm -f > > > endif # ifeq ($(out),www) > > > > What's the ration

G clef changes [was: Re: Alternative music font]

2009-12-29 Thread Marc Hohl
Marc Hohl schrieb: Francisco Vila schrieb: Just to add a bit to the brainstorming: The uppermost lace of our G-clef already was slightly oversized. I cannot explain why, but latest proposals I've seen are getting it even greater. Anyone appreciates the same? Well spotted. I was not sure wh

Re: [PATCH] Use find ... | xargs rm -f instead of find ... -delete

2009-12-29 Thread John Mandereau
Le mardi 29 décembre 2009 à 20:19 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 08:00:46PM +0100, Matthias Kilian wrote: > > The `-delete' primary isn't very portable, it's a GNU extension. > > IMHO, that's all we need to hear. -delete must be removed. Yes, that's what I figured ou

Re: Autobeaming

2009-12-29 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/29/09 12:31 PM, "Hans Aberg" wrote: > On 29 Dec 2009, at 03:11, Carl Sorensen wrote: > >> Does this seem like a feasible architecture? > > I think a system that determines the measure from the time signature > is fundamentally flawed. I think n terms of a \meter that can be used > to d

Re: [PATCH] Use find ... | xargs rm -f instead of find ... -delete

2009-12-29 Thread Matthias Kilian
[this is becoming slightly offtopic, but anyway...] On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 08:19:57PM +, Graham Percival wrote: > > > > - find $(outdir)/offline-root -type l -delete > > > > + find $(outdir)/offline-root -type l | xargs rm -f [...] > > The `-delete' primary isn't very portable, it

Re: Autobeaming

2009-12-29 Thread Joe Neeman
On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 11:27 -0700, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > > On 12/29/09 8:41 AM, "Carl Sorensen" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/29/09 4:48 AM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: > > > >> Hi Carl > >> > >> This looks like a much better approach. It means the > >> special \overrideTimeSignatur

Re: [PATCH] Use find ... | xargs rm -f instead of find ... -delete

2009-12-29 Thread John Mandereau
Le mardi 29 décembre 2009 à 22:05 +0100, Matthias Kilian a écrit : > `must' is such a strong word. There are other GNUisms (or non-portable > extensions) hidden in the build system, like that `grep -L' at some > places. This will disappear in some future (when Texinfo has a good enough i18n suppor

Re: Autobeaming

2009-12-29 Thread Hans Aberg
On 29 Dec 2009, at 22:00, Carl Sorensen wrote: Does this seem like a feasible architecture? I think a system that determines the [meter] from the time signature is fundamentally flawed. I think in terms of a \meter that can be used to define the beaming structure. I substructure of that is

Re: Autobeaming

2009-12-29 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/29/09 2:14 PM, "Joe Neeman" wrote: > On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 11:27 -0700, Carl Sorensen wrote: >> >> >> On 12/29/09 8:41 AM, "Carl Sorensen" wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 12/29/09 4:48 AM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: >>> Hi Carl This looks like a much better approa

Re: Autobeaming

2009-12-29 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/29/09 3:06 PM, "Hans Aberg" wrote: > > > On 29 Dec 2009, at 22:00, Carl Sorensen wrote: > Does this seem like a feasible architecture? >>> >>> I think a system that determines the [meter] from the time signature >>> is fundamentally flawed. I think in terms of a \meter that can

Re: G clef changes [was: Re: Alternative music font]

2009-12-29 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/12/29 Marc Hohl : > I concatenated the pdfs to one file, which is too big for the list, so I > put it on my website: > > http://www.hohlart.de/marc/gclef-slant.pdf > > I know that there is a spurious error on value 2, but I think that's not the > main problem. Which value looks best? At a ris

Re: G clef changes [was: Re: Alternative music font]

2009-12-29 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/29/09 1:54 PM, "Marc Hohl" wrote: > Marc Hohl schrieb: >> Francisco Vila schrieb: >>> Just to add a bit to the brainstorming: >>> >>> The uppermost lace of our G-clef already was slightly oversized. >>> I cannot explain why, but latest proposals I've seen are getting it >>> even greater

lilypond mentors

2009-12-29 Thread Graham Percival
The Frogs have been around for a year, and I recently got two new doc contributors, so I've been thinking about how things have been going and some of the problems we've had. I'm thinking about proposing a (semi-?)formal system of mentors. One thing I learned from GDP was that things work better

Re: remove duplicate anchor generation in texi2html

2009-12-29 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > The below patch stops texi2html from creating two anchors, making the > webpage navigation much more comfortable.  However, it also makes the > TOC navbars disappear. > > diff --git a/Documentation/lilypond-texi2html.init > b/Documentation

Make doc broken by french translation

2009-12-29 Thread Carl Sorensen
The documentation is broken right now due to the french translation of the Notation reference. A bad index entry is found in Documentation/fr/out-www/notation.cp Line 2 in this file is: \entry{\par }{1}{\code {\par }} In the corresponding file Documentation/out-www/notation.cp, line 2 is \ent

please do a "make doc-clean; make clean"

2009-12-29 Thread Graham Percival
Oops, relied off-list by accident. Please do a new pull, and build from a fresh tree. This mess was fixed in 7b34eac90f81c8123feaf2670fafae236101f14c and I can confirm that it's ok in 80ebf95c872dd6afd587ce388e7fa3ca216937aa . I don't know if the "make clean" is strictly necessary, but it can't

Re: please do a "make doc-clean; make clean"

2009-12-29 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 12/29/09 9:32 PM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > Oops, relied off-list by accident. > > Please do a new pull, and build from a fresh tree. This mess was > fixed in 7b34eac90f81c8123feaf2670fafae236101f14c and I can confirm > that it's ok in 80ebf95c872dd6afd587ce388e7fa3ca216937aa . > > I do

Re: please do a "make doc-clean; make clean"

2009-12-29 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Carl Sorensen wrote: > > So now make fails, with this error message: Interesting. When was the last time you did a fresh "make" ? Was it before 21 Dec 2009 ? > ./include/libc-extension.hh:51: error: declaration does not declare anything > ./include/libc-extensi

StaffGrouper vs. VerticalAxisGroup: syntax inconsistencies

2009-12-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Folks, why can I say \new PianoStaff \with { \override StaffGrouper #'between-staff-spacing #'minimum-distance = #20 } ... but not \new Staff \with { \override VerticalAxisGroup #'next-staff-spacing #'minimum-distance = #20 } ... ? The latter gives this warning:

Re: remove duplicate anchor generation in texi2html

2009-12-29 Thread Patrick McCarty
On 2009-12-29, Patrick McCarty wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Graham Percival > wrote: > > The below patch stops texi2html from creating two anchors, making the > > webpage navigation much more comfortable.  However, it also makes the > > TOC navbars disappear. > > > > diff --git a/Docu

Re: remove duplicate anchor generation in texi2html

2009-12-29 Thread Patrick McCarty
On 2009-12-29, Patrick McCarty wrote: > > After an hour digging through the texi2html source, I was not able to > figure it out, so I'll come back this issue in a couple of days. > > Though, as an experiment, I tried nulling the first return value > instead of the second, and the second-layer TOC

translation files not distributed

2009-12-29 Thread Graham Percival
file from VC not distributed: lilypond-2.13.10/Documentation/hu/web.texi file from VC not distributed: lilypond-2.13.10/Documentation/hu/web/download.itexi file from VC not distributed: lilypond-2.13.10/Documentation/hu/web/introduction.itexi file from VC not distributed: lilypond-2.13.10/Documenta

Re: [PATCH] Use find ... | xargs rm -f instead of find ... -delete

2009-12-29 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: >> Then change it to something like this: >> >> find $(outdir)/offline-root -type l -print0 | xargs -0 rm -f -- >> >> Or even this (completely POSIX compliant): >> >> find $(outdir)/offline-root -type -l -exec rm -f -- '{}' + >> >> (but then I've to patch it

Re: [PATCH] Use find ... | xargs rm -f instead of find ... -delete

2009-12-29 Thread David Kastrup
Matthias Kilian writes: > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 08:16:37AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >> > - find $(outdir)/offline-root -type l -delete >> > + find $(outdir)/offline-root -type l | xargs rm -f >> > endif # ifeq ($(out),www) >> >> What's the rationale? > > The `-delete' primary isn't very