Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:33:24 +0200 David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Using @lilypondfile forces the doc-writer to make sure the snippet > > is actually there. > > You mean the documentation compiler does not complain about undefined > re

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-28 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:50:32 +0200 David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry, but that does not even make sense. I have no idea how you get > this absurd notion. Care to come up with a quotation from one of my > postings that would support your interpretation? From http://lists.gnu.org/a

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-27 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > No. Since I said that I'd wait until Monday, and I guess it's > Monday somewhere in the world. > > Most of David's arguments were actually in /favor/ of removing @lsr; he > just didn't realize that @lsr produced a reference instead of the > actual sni

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:43:20 +0200 John Mandereau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le samedi 26 avril 2008 __ 03:53 -0700, Graham Percival a __crit : > > right? Why would the formatting be different in the Snippet > > document than in the manuals? Just make it > > @emph{\NAME\} > > or something like

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-27 Thread John Mandereau
Le samedi 26 avril 2008 à 03:53 -0700, Graham Percival a écrit : > On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:05:40 +0200 > John Mandereau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Sorry, why do we need a CMD? We should use the same formatting > > > for all of them, so an argument-less command like [doctitle] > > > should

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:05:40 +0200 John Mandereau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry, why do we need a CMD? We should use the same formatting > > for all of them, so an argument-less command like [doctitle] > > should be sufficient. > > No, we certainly won't use the same formatting in Snippet

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-25 Thread John Mandereau
On 24/04/2008, Graham Percival wrote: > On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:38:50 +0200 > John Mandereau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, no -- I'm saying that I don't think it's worth linking to a > specific snippet. As long as people are directed to the Foo > snippet list, that's all we need. The extra com

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:29:54 +0200 "Valentin Villenave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/4/24 David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > The idea of a cross reference is to get me where I want directly. > > If it is in the vicinity of interesting material, nice (hopefully > > everything is intere

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:40:58 +0200 > David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Having to specify a particular snippet makes sure that this snippet >> (and thus the construct) indeed appears in the docs, and that its >> absence will be noticed when

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:40:58 +0200 David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Having to specify a particular snippet makes sure that this snippet > (and thus the construct) indeed appears in the docs, and that its > absence will be noticed when compiling the documentation. You misunderstand. @li

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Does anybody really want to keep @lsr{} (in addition to @lsrdir{})? It isn't used in any finished GDP sections, and I'm 90% certain it isn't worth keeping. @lsrdir{Pitches, Pitches} points to the whole collection of pitch snippets. @lsr{pitches, adding-ambitus-per-voice.l

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread David Kastrup
"Valentin Villenave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 2008/4/24 David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> The idea of a cross reference is to get me where I want directly. If it >> is in the vicinity of interesting material, nice (hopefully everything >> is interesting). But "it is good for you to

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/4/24 David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The idea of a cross reference is to get me where I want directly. If it > is in the vicinity of interesting material, nice (hopefully everything > is interesting). But "it is good for you to wade through unrelated, > closely situated material" i

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > b) we *want* users to skim through the snippet list. LilyPond can > do things that most people never think of -- even I get surprised > from time to time when I see neat snippets. (IIRC the last time > was about a month ago) Sorry, this argument doe

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:13:03 +0200 "Valentin Villenave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a lazy user, I always prefer being pointed to a specific snippet > rather than a bunch of snippets I won't take the time to read. Addendum: pretend that you're a lazy user, interested in accidentals. Look at

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/4/24 Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > c) if a snippet is extremely relevant, we'll include it directly > with @lilypondfile. Yes indeed. OK, I'm running out of counter-arguments :) Cheers, Valentin ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypon

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread Till Rettig
Graham Percival schrieb: No, @lsr{} is completely distinct from @lilypondfile. @lsr{} would create a link to a specific snippet; it would be used in the @seealso Snippets: @lsr{} Yes, I know, but the functionality is quite the same in my opinion: to give access to a specific snippet releva

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 10:13:03 +0200 "Valentin Villenave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/4/24 Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Counter-arguments welcome for the next three or four days. :) > > As a lazy user, I always prefer being pointed to a specific snippet > rather than a bunch

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread John Mandereau
Graham Percival wrote: > We could then rename @lsrdir{} to @rlsr{} and use the same format > as all the other @rfoo{} macros. That would simply the doc > source. > > Unless I hear voiciferous complaints before Monday, I'll remove > @lsr{}. Very good. We'll be able to replace @lsr with @rlsr as

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/4/24 Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Counter-arguments welcome for the next three or four days. :) No, really? :) As a lazy user, I always prefer being pointed to a specific snippet rather than a bunch of snippets I won't take the time to read. There's no way @lsr can't be more use

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:38:50 +0200 John Mandereau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Graham Percival wrote: > > We could then rename @lsrdir{} to @rlsr{} and use the same format > > as all the other @rfoo{} macros. That would simply the doc > > source. > > > > Unless I hear voiciferous complaints befo

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-23 Thread Graham Percival
No, @lsr{} is completely distinct from @lilypondfile. @lsr{} would create a link to a specific snippet; it would be used in the @seealso Snippets: @lsr{} section. Cheers, - Graham On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:19:13 +0300 Till Rettig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm fine with this -- the @lilypondfi

Re: removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-23 Thread Till Rettig
I'm fine with this -- the @lilypondfile is a much more powerful feature that does almost the same. Till Graham Percival schrieb: Does anybody really want to keep @lsr{} (in addition to @lsrdir{})? It isn't used in any finished GDP sections, and I'm 90% certain it isn't worth keeping. @lsrdir

removing @lsr{} and only using @lsrdir{}

2008-04-23 Thread Graham Percival
Does anybody really want to keep @lsr{} (in addition to @lsrdir{})? It isn't used in any finished GDP sections, and I'm 90% certain it isn't worth keeping. @lsrdir{Pitches, Pitches} points to the whole collection of pitch snippets. @lsr{pitches, adding-ambitus-per-voice.ly, Ambitus} (or somethi