Re: major feature request (tablature)

2008-12-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:53:21PM -, dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us wrote: > On Thu, Dec 11, 2008, "Carl D. Sorensen" said: > > > LilyPond *is* strictly an ASCII/UTF-8 based input format. There is *no* > > facility for changing fonts used for input. > > DEFENSIVE you completely misunderst

Re: major feature request (tablature)

2008-12-11 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 12/11/08 3:53 PM, "dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us" wrote: > On Thu, Dec 11, 2008, "Carl D. Sorensen" said: > > >>> // preface, 4 row german tab, glyphs detailed... >>> // hidden time signature common (often ommited, but used) >>> // ? hidden key signature c (tab lacks key sigs) >>> >>> {1 {

Re: major feature request (tablature)

2008-12-11 Thread Jonathan Kulp
dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us wrote: The ideal (in my opinion) would be to put tablature information right in with the music input huh? the tablature _IS_ the music information. No way we should be asking the user to do any translation from tab glyphs to pitch. Too many errors, too much time, an

Re: major feature request (tablature)

2008-12-11 Thread demery
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008, "Carl D. Sorensen" said: >> // preface, 4 row german tab, glyphs detailed... >> // hidden time signature common (often ommited, but used) >> // ? hidden key signature c (tab lacks key sigs) >> >> {1 {5,d,n,J}} >> {2 {n}} >> {2 {4}} >> {5 {d,n,J}} >> {5 {4,h,A}} >

Re: major feature request (tablature)

2008-12-11 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 12/10/08 5:45 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > German tabs origins are, like all the forms, obscured by time. > > It is reputed to have been invented by Conrad Pauman, mid fifteenth > century, as a way to record music for short-necked lutes having 5 courses. > The nota

Re: major feature request (tablature)

2008-12-10 Thread demery
German tabs origins are, like all the forms, obscured by time. It is reputed to have been invented by Conrad Pauman, mid fifteenth century, as a way to record music for short-necked lutes having 5 courses. The notation was extended for lutes having 6 or more courses and more frets, and we have l

Re: major feature request (tablature)

2008-12-10 Thread Maximilian Albert
2008/12/10 Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> > Since you put 'scheme' in single quotes, I suspect you don't know >> > about Scheme programming. Scheme is a Lisp-like programming >> > language. >> >> ()()((()))()()((( >> >> I hope not, that kinda stuff leaves me with a headache, th

Re: major feature request (tablature)

2008-12-10 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 12/9/08 9:51 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008, "Carl D. Sorensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> On 12/9/08 4:37 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> You're confusing users with developers. Code and data structures are >> developer-only ite

Re: major feature request (tablature)

2008-12-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > Since you put 'scheme' in single quotes, I suspect you don't know > > about Scheme programming. Scheme is a Lisp-like programming > > language. > > ()()((()))()()((( > > I hope not, that kinda stuff leaves me with a headache, thank the > gods for programming editors with () bal

Re: major feature request (tablature)

2008-12-09 Thread demery
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008, "Carl D. Sorensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On 12/9/08 4:37 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You're confusing users with developers. Code and data structures are > developer-only items. yes, but the data structures my code needs are tablature-oriented, not st

Re: major feature request (tablature)

2008-12-09 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 12/9/08 4:37 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> But LilyPond already has an extensive code and data structures base. To use >> data structures or code that are not compatible with the LilyPond paradigm >> is not wise. > > What is wise is to bow to the users expectations,

Re: major feature request (tablature)

2008-12-09 Thread demery
> But LilyPond already has an extensive code and data structures base. To use > data structures or code that are not compatible with the LilyPond paradigm > is not wise. What is wise is to bow to the users expectations, not twist their mind. User of tablature is thinking of where to put the fing

Re: major feature request (tablature)

2008-12-06 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 12/6/08 2:46 PM, "Danalute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Carl D. Sorensen wrote: >> >> I can't speak for the whole development team, but I suspect that nobody on >> the team is going to run out and implement ... >> > > I am willing to do my part; I think it is reasonable for me to hope

Re: major feature request (tablature)

2008-12-06 Thread Danalute
Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > > I can't speak for the whole development team, but I suspect that nobody on > the team is going to run out and implement ... > I am willing to do my part; I think it is reasonable for me to hope to have your good advice and counsel. Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > > I w

Re: major feature request (tablature)

2008-12-06 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 12/5/08 6:47 PM, "Danalute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: >> >> > Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: >> >> >> Unfortunately, you don't give any concrete problems with the TabStaff of >> LilyPond. Can you elaborate a little bit on what is not acceptable and >> wha

Re: major feature request (tablature)

2008-12-05 Thread Danalute
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > > > You mean one tab staff and one mensural staff above each other? What's the > problem with LilyPond? Maybe I'm misunderstanding you here, because you > can > have a tab staff and a mensural staff in a staff group in LilyPond. > I understand I can mix stave typ

Re: major feature request (tablature)

2008-12-05 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Samstag, 6. Dezember 2008 00:38:21 schrieb Danalute: > Tablature is the one I would address. > \tabstaff is not acceptible as it stands; several issues have been recently > noted on the Lute mailling list, [...] > I began to implement support for me

major feature request (tablature)

2008-12-05 Thread Danalute
I know this was brought up some years ago, and shotdown as basically going against the grain, but I think it can be done, done well, and integrated with benefit to all. No problem with engraved music, but it isnt all that is needed. The orchestra pit is far from the only place where music has a