Re: Git repository, was Re: doc branching

2006-10-22 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Johannes Schindelin escreveu: Hi, On Mon, 23 Oct 2006, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: I have some more clues now; some of the time stamps in the CVS repo are messed up; eg revision 1.2 of flower/include/GNUmakefile lists 2002 as the year which is clearly wrong. Most definitely this would trigger a

Re: Git repository, was Re: doc branching

2006-10-22 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, On Mon, 23 Oct 2006, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > I have some more clues now; some of the time stamps in the CVS repo are > messed up; eg revision 1.2 of flower/include/GNUmakefile lists 2002 as > the year which is clearly wrong. Most definitely this would trigger a "bug" in cvsps. I say "bug

Re: Git repository, was Re: doc branching

2006-10-22 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Johannes Schindelin escreveu: Hi, On Mon, 23 Oct 2006, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Interested parties can get the darcs repo at http://lilypond.org/~hanwen/gub-git/ Well, I cannot. As I stated earlier, I gave up on darcs. You can simply wget the directory, which will give you a runnable

Re: doc branching

2006-10-22 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Johannes Schindelin escreveu: I am tracking the current lilypond repository with git. I could donate this git repository (it is ca. 60MB at the moment). I prefer git over the other alternatives: it is blazingly fast, *very* portable (I gave up on porting darcs after a fruitless day), and br

Git repository, was Re: doc branching

2006-10-22 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, On Mon, 23 Oct 2006, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > Interested parties can get the darcs repo at > http://lilypond.org/~hanwen/gub-git/ Well, I cannot. As I stated earlier, I gave up on darcs. > however, I seem to have some trouble with importing the CVS repo into > Git. My attempt is at >

Re: doc branching

2006-04-08 Thread Cameron Horsburgh
Graham Percival wrote: > > On 8-Apr-06, at 4:01 AM, Cameron Horsburgh wrote: > >> Graham Percival wrote: >> >>> manual, I'll be doing them all at once, so I won't miss anything. I >>> think we still have features introduced in 2.2 that haven't made it into >>> the manual (I'll be calling for a v

Re: doc branching

2006-04-08 Thread Graham Percival
On 8-Apr-06, at 4:01 AM, Cameron Horsburgh wrote: Graham Percival wrote: manual, I'll be doing them all at once, so I won't miss anything. I think we still have features introduced in 2.2 that haven't made it into the manual (I'll be calling for a volunteer to do this soon). I'll have a

Re: doc branching

2006-04-08 Thread Cameron Horsburgh
Graham Percival wrote: > 4. For the first half of the development cycle, don't include new > features in the manual. New things get listed in NEWS, but only there. > I favor this solution. At first glance, it might suggest that new > features won't get documented well, but it should have the o

Re: doc branching

2006-04-05 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, On Wed, 5 Apr 2006, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > Pedro Kröger wrote: > > Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Hmmm; part of the problem might also stem from using CVS, which > > > doesn't have good cherry-picking for patches. > > > > would it be a solution to use darcs only f

Re: doc branching

2006-04-05 Thread Graham Percival
On 5-Apr-06, at 5:23 AM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Graham Percival wrote: In addition, if Erik's music streams are in place in 2.10, then users who don't want to manually upgrade syntax on old completed files have the option of using the streams (which is the whole point of them, right?) If

Re: doc branching

2006-04-05 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: If we go this route, we could better do it right immediately, and setup a bzr/darcs/monotone/git/etc. based infrastructure rightaway. I mean, for the entire lilypond repository. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software

Re: doc branching

2006-04-05 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Pedro Kröger wrote: Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hmmm; part of the problem might also stem from using CVS, which doesn't have good cherry-picking for patches. would it be a solution to use darcs only for the manual? I know there are some ways of syncing darcs and cvs, so maybe

Re: doc branching

2006-04-05 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Graham Percival wrote: In addition, if Erik's music streams are in place in 2.10, then users who don't want to manually upgrade syntax on old completed files have the option of using the streams (which is the whole point of them, right?) If you look at it that way, wouldn't we be absolutely c

Re: doc branching

2006-04-05 Thread Graham Percival
On 5-Apr-06, at 4:49 AM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Graham Percival wrote: If the hackers are fine with this, I'm certainly happy with this solution. I take it that we're still in the bug-fixing stage? (since 0 recently came out, we have a lot of new interest, finding more bugs, pointing out

Re: doc branching

2006-04-05 Thread Pedro Kröger
Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hmmm; part of the problem might also stem from using CVS, which > doesn't have good cherry-picking for patches. would it be a solution to use darcs only for the manual? I know there are some ways of syncing darcs and cvs, so maybe the doc stays in cv

Re: doc branching

2006-04-05 Thread Pedro Kröger
Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> 5. Provide a unified documentation and mark features with a version >>number, say, > I suppose that this is possible... but IMO this would completely > clutter the manual with unnecessary info. I think that a compromise would work. Instead of ha

Re: doc branching

2006-04-05 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Graham Percival wrote: 2. -> we've been trying to do this for ages, and for the 2.8 it's almost worked (9 months). The real problem is that all hackers should agree on a single period were nothing but bugfixing happens. It might be a good thing to just use the Linux 2.6 model, where we have

Re: doc branching

2006-04-05 Thread Graham Percival
On 5-Apr-06, at 2:51 AM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Graham Percival wrote: 2. Much shorter devel periods (say, four months). New users still get confused and ask questions about things which I've already clarified, 3. Once a month, somebody goes through the tiresome process of sifting thro

Re: doc branching

2006-04-05 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Graham Percival wrote: 2. Much shorter devel periods (say, four months). New users still get confused and ask questions about things which I've already clarified, 3. Once a month, somebody goes through the tiresome process of sifting through differences between the devel and stable manuals

Re: doc branching

2006-04-05 Thread Graham Percival
On 5-Apr-06, at 12:45 AM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: 5. Provide a unified documentation and mark features with a version number, say, This feature appeared in version 2.7.38. Ideally, such things belong into the margin, but... I suppose that this is possible... but IMO this would comp

Re: doc branching

2006-04-05 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> 4. For the first half of the development cycle, don't include new > features in the manual. New things get listed in NEWS, but only there. > I favor this solution. At first glance, it might suggest that new > features won't get documented well, but it should have the opposite > effect:

doc branching

2006-04-05 Thread Graham Percival
Hi all, In the past, there have been periods of half a year (or more) when Mats and I suggest that users should read the development manual instead of the stable manual. Most of the changes I make to the manual apply to the stable branch as well, but due to technical and time considerations,