Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual

2011-08-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I've now reported the cartouche problem to bug-texinfo. Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual

2011-08-09 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Maximilian Albert" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: "Graham Percival" ; "David Kastrup" ; Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 9:36 PM Subject: Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual Hi all, 2) list all environment variables used

Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual

2011-08-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Aug 08, 2011 at 09:36:34PM +0100, Maximilian Albert wrote: > P.S.: Since Graham mentioned getting rid of environment variables: > only very recently have I started to appreciate the enormous value > they have once you work on systems where things are just slightly > different than what ever

Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual

2011-08-08 Thread Wols Lists
On 08/08/11 21:36, Maximilian Albert wrote: > I don't know anything about the build system, but isn't it possible to > do this automatically? Say, if you rename all lilypond-related > environment variables so that they start with LILY_ then why can't you > say something like 'env | grep LILY_' and

Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual

2011-08-08 Thread Maximilian Albert
Hi all, >> 2) list all environment variables used (both internally and >> externally) in the build system in the CG. >> >> Advantage: at least this knowledge is written down somewhere. >> Disadvantage: the list will not be kept up-to-date.  (don't argue; >> there's absolutely nothing you can say t

Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual

2011-08-08 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: "Jean-Charles Malahieude" ; "David Kastrup" ; Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 11:37 PM Subject: Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual On Sun, Aug 07, 2011 at 11:22:48AM +

Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual

2011-08-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Aug 07, 2011 at 11:22:48AM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: > - Original Message - From: "Jean-Charles Malahieude" > > >(./usage.texi (/home/jcharles/GIT/Mentors/tex/texinfo.tex That looks good. > git grep TEXINPUTS gives: > > make/lilypond-vars.make:TEXINPUTS=$(top-src-dir)/tex/:: >

Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual

2011-08-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Is TEXINPUTS properly set in the documentation build script posted >> recently? > > No. I wasn't aware it existed until about 2 hours ago. :-) kpathsea, the library used by all TeX related programs to locate files within a texmf tree, has an awfully lot of such environment variables. A quick

Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual

2011-08-07 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Werner LEMBERG" To: Cc: ; ; Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 12:59 PM Subject: Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual make/lilypond-vars.make:TEXINPUTS=$(top-src-dir)/tex/:: So we're setting the location of the texinfo.tex file explicitly duri

Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual

2011-08-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> make/lilypond-vars.make:TEXINPUTS=$(top-src-dir)/tex/:: > > So we're setting the location of the texinfo.tex file explicitly > during make. > > Think this makes the issue invalid, but the "feature" is probably > worth documenting with other make stuff - Graham? Is TEXINPUTS properly set in the

Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual

2011-08-07 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Jean-Charles Malahieude" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: "Graham Percival" ; "David Kastrup" ; Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 10:33 AM Subject: Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual Le 07/08/2011 11:19, Phil Holmes dis

Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual

2011-08-07 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude
Le 07/08/2011 11:19, Phil Holmes disait : - Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: "David Kastrup" ; Subject: Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual On Sat, Aug 06, 2011 at 01:22:54PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: Actually, I've

Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual

2011-08-07 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: "David Kastrup" ; Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 8:22 AM Subject: Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual On Sat, Aug 06, 2011 at 01:22:54PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: Actually, I've

Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual

2011-08-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Aug 06, 2011 at 01:22:54PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: > Actually, I've just been looking at this, and your patch almost > solves the problem - *if I change the correct file*. I already have > texinfo installed on my system, and I noticed that when I run it, > part of the output is > > (./W

Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual

2011-08-06 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 11:26 AM Subject: Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual "Phil Holmes" writes: Would the following patch help? \envdef\cartouche{% + \ifvmode\the

Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual

2011-08-06 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: "James Lowe" ; "Werner LEMBERG" ; Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:54 PM Subject: Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 03:12:23PM +0100, Phil Hol

Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual

2011-08-06 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" writes: >> Would the following patch help? >> \envdef\cartouche{% >> + \ifvmode\the\everypar\fi % trigger headers >> \ifhmode\par\fi % can't be in the midst of a paragraph. >> \startsavinginserts >> \lskip=\leftskip \rskip=\rightskip >> > > I edited the texinfo.tex file in

Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual

2011-08-06 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" To: Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual "Phil Holmes" writes: - Original Message - From: "James Lowe" To: "Werner LEMBERG" ; Cc: Sent: Fri

Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual

2011-08-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 03:12:23PM +0100, Phil Holmes wrote: > )Looks like a bug in texinfo. Can you try to isolate this as much > as possible? > )What about using the most recent version of texinfo.tex (attached)? That would replace tex/texinfo.tex > Nothing in the CG I can see. I think the

Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual

2011-08-05 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >> Where would I put the .tex file you supplied? (Unix novice). > > It's located in lilypond's `tex' source code directory. You would > save the original one and use the new one. But please try David's > patch first to check whether it works. I have not actually tried i

Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual

2011-08-05 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Where would I put the .tex file you supplied? (Unix novice). It's located in lilypond's `tex' source code directory. You would save the original one and use the new one. But please try David's patch first to check whether it works. Werner __

Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual

2011-08-05 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" writes: > - Original Message - > From: "James Lowe" > To: "Werner LEMBERG" ; > Cc: > Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 1:42 PM > Subject: RE: Ugliness in the Learning Manual > > > Hello, > > )-Original M

Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual

2011-08-05 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "James Lowe" To: "Werner LEMBERG" ; Cc: Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 1:42 PM Subject: RE: Ugliness in the Learning Manual Hello, )-Original Message- )From: lilypond-devel-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org )[mailto:li

Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual

2011-08-05 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Werner LEMBERG" To: Cc: Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 1:18 PM Subject: Re: Ugliness in the Learning Manual Please see the attached image of page 2 of the LM. Anyone know why this collision occurs and how to fix it? Looks like a bug in tex

RE: Ugliness in the Learning Manual

2011-08-05 Thread James Lowe
the Learning Manual ) ) )> Please see the attached image of page 2 of the LM. Anyone know why )> this collision occurs and how to fix it? ) )Looks like a bug in texinfo. Can you try to isolate this as much as possible? )What about using the most recent version of texinfo.tex (attached)? )

Ugliness in the Learning Manual

2011-08-05 Thread Phil Holmes
Please see the attached image of page 2 of the LM. Anyone know why this collision occurs and how to fix it? -- Phil Holmes Bug Squad <>___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel