Re: Suggestion: Keep original breaks

2013-12-03 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 11/27/2013 04:32 PM, Urs Liska wrote: Am 27.11.2013 16:25, schrieb Carl Sorensen: On 11/27/13 8:04 AM, "David Kastrup" wrote: Urs Liska writes: [...] originalBreak = #(define-music-function (parser location)() ( #{ \tag #'keep-original-breaks \break #} )) [...] If the general case we

Re: Suggestion: Keep original breaks

2013-11-27 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Am 27.11.2013 15:52, schrieb David Kastrup: >> Urs Liska writes: >> >>> Am 27.11.2013 14:54, schrieb David Kastrup: Urs Liska writes: > What I actually want is to add that behaviour as an option to > Frescobaldi's Layout Control Mode. So what? >>> I kn

Re: Suggestion: Keep original breaks

2013-11-27 Thread Urs Liska
Am 27.11.2013 15:52, schrieb David Kastrup: Urs Liska writes: Am 27.11.2013 14:54, schrieb David Kastrup: Urs Liska writes: What I actually want is to add that behaviour as an option to Frescobaldi's Layout Control Mode. So what? I know you don't care about usability features involving g

Re: Suggestion: Keep original breaks

2013-11-27 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 11/27/13 8:45 AM, "Urs Liska" wrote: >Am 27.11.2013 16:36, schrieb Carl Sorensen: >> On 11/27/13 8:32 AM, "Urs Liska" wrote: >> >>> For me this sounds good. >>> Requiring to write \include "original-breaks.ly" is significantly >>>better >>> than requiring to define the commands. >>> But it

Re: Suggestion: Keep original breaks

2013-11-27 Thread Urs Liska
Am 27.11.2013 16:52, schrieb David Kastrup: Urs Liska writes: Am 27.11.2013 16:36, schrieb Carl Sorensen: On 11/27/13 8:32 AM, "Urs Liska" wrote: For me this sounds good. Requiring to write \include "original-breaks.ly" is significantly better than requiring to define the commands. But it

Re: Suggestion: Keep original breaks

2013-11-27 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Am 27.11.2013 16:36, schrieb Carl Sorensen: >> On 11/27/13 8:32 AM, "Urs Liska" wrote: >> >>> For me this sounds good. >>> Requiring to write \include "original-breaks.ly" is significantly better >>> than requiring to define the commands. >>> But it would still need a separat

Re: Suggestion: Keep original breaks

2013-11-27 Thread Urs Liska
Am 27.11.2013 16:36, schrieb Carl Sorensen: On 11/27/13 8:32 AM, "Urs Liska" wrote: For me this sounds good. Requiring to write \include "original-breaks.ly" is significantly better than requiring to define the commands. But it would still need a separate switch, presumably through the command

Re: Suggestion: Keep original breaks

2013-11-27 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 11/27/13 8:32 AM, "Urs Liska" wrote: > >For me this sounds good. >Requiring to write \include "original-breaks.ly" is significantly better >than requiring to define the commands. >But it would still need a separate switch, presumably through the >command line. This is true, but it would be po

Re: Suggestion: Keep original breaks

2013-11-27 Thread Urs Liska
Am 27.11.2013 16:25, schrieb Carl Sorensen: On 11/27/13 8:04 AM, "David Kastrup" wrote: Urs Liska writes: But also in this case I would come back and suggest including functions like originalBreak = #(define-music-function (parser location)() ( #{ \tag #'keep-original-breaks \break #}

Re: Suggestion: Keep original breaks

2013-11-27 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 11/27/13 8:04 AM, "David Kastrup" wrote: >Urs Liska writes: > >> >> >> But also in this case I would come back and suggest including functions >>like >> >> originalBreak = >> #(define-music-function (parser location)() >> ( #{ \tag #'keep-original-breaks \break #} )) >> >> in LilyPond so th

Re: Suggestion: Keep original breaks

2013-11-27 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Am 27.11.2013 15:01, schrieb David Kastrup: >> David Kastrup writes: >> >>> I see nothing wrong with giving a command line option for setting >>> tags. That sounds useful, and it would most certainly encompass your >>> use case. It would also fit into LilyPond's current too

Re: Suggestion: Keep original breaks

2013-11-27 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Am 27.11.2013 14:54, schrieb David Kastrup: >> Urs Liska writes: >> >>> What I actually want is to add that behaviour as an option to >>> Frescobaldi's Layout Control Mode. >> So what? > > I know you don't care about usability features involving graphical > tools such as Fres

Re: Suggestion: Keep original breaks

2013-11-27 Thread Urs Liska
Am 27.11.2013 15:01, schrieb David Kastrup: David Kastrup writes: I see nothing wrong with giving a command line option for setting tags. That sounds useful, and it would most certainly encompass your use case. It would also fit into LilyPond's current tool set, and consequently into the doc

Re: Suggestion: Keep original breaks

2013-11-27 Thread Urs Liska
Am 27.11.2013 14:54, schrieb David Kastrup: Urs Liska writes: What I actually want is to add that behaviour as an option to Frescobaldi's Layout Control Mode. So what? I know you don't care about usability features involving graphical tools such as Frescobaldi, Denemo or whatever. But ther

Re: Suggestion: Keep original breaks

2013-11-27 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: > I see nothing wrong with giving a command line option for setting > tags. That sounds useful, and it would most certainly encompass your > use case. It would also fit into LilyPond's current tool set, and > consequently into the documentation. The way one would do that

Re: Suggestion: Keep original breaks

2013-11-27 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > I'm not talking about pushing something into LilyPond just for my > personal convenience but about adding a usability feature for a wider > audience. Breaks, and only breaks, that have a special command that can be disabled from the command line, and that can in practice only

Re: Suggestion: Keep original breaks

2013-11-27 Thread Urs Liska
Am 27.11.2013 12:25, schrieb David Kastrup: Urs Liska writes: Of course I can achieve the same with tags. But there will be many instances where I don't "need them anyway" because I don't really care about the state of the original score except for this simplification while inputting/proofing

Re: Suggestion: Keep original breaks

2013-11-27 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Of course I can achieve the same with tags. But there will be many > instances where I don't "need them anyway" because I don't really > care about the state of the original score except for this > simplification while inputting/proofing. So what? Why hard code one particul

Re: Suggestion: Keep original breaks

2013-11-27 Thread Urs Liska
Am 27.11.2013 11:48, schrieb David Kastrup: Urs Liska writes: I would like to suggest an enhancement in the handling of line breaks that is useful for copying scores from existing models. Currently LilyPond can decide about breaks herself or we can manually force or prevent breaks. But when co

Re: Suggestion: Keep original breaks

2013-11-27 Thread Urs Liska
Am 27.11.2013 11:55, schrieb Trevor Daniels: Urs Liska wrote Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:30 AM I would like to suggest an enhancement in the handling of line breaks that is useful for copying scores from existing models. I suggest a command line option -dkeep-original-breaks for this switc

Re: Suggestion: Keep original breaks

2013-11-27 Thread Trevor Daniels
Urs Liska wrote Wednesday, November 27, 2013 10:30 AM > I would like to suggest an enhancement in the handling of line breaks > that is useful for copying scores from existing models. > > I suggest a command line option -dkeep-original-breaks for this switch. > That way the user can add that op

Re: Suggestion: Keep original breaks

2013-11-27 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > I would like to suggest an enhancement in the handling of line breaks > that is useful for copying scores from existing models. > Currently LilyPond can decide about breaks herself or we can manually > force or prevent breaks. > But when copying from or proof-reading against a

Suggestion: Keep original breaks

2013-11-27 Thread Urs Liska
Hi all, I would like to suggest an enhancement in the handling of line breaks that is useful for copying scores from existing models. Currently LilyPond can decide about breaks herself or we can manually force or prevent breaks. But when copying from or proof-reading against an existing score i