Re: Contemporary notation (Re: GSoC projects list)

2017-02-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 06.02.2017 um 20:15 schrieb "Jürgen Reuter": > Hi all, > > personally, I think, it is as always in software development that > addresses a wide audience: the challenge to find an appropriate level > of abstraction. > If you want to support *any* kind of notation, then just use a > painting o

Re: Contemporary notation (Re: GSoC projects list)

2017-02-06 Thread Urs Liska
Am 6. Februar 2017 20:34:36 MEZ schrieb Simon Albrecht : >On 06.02.2017 20:15, "Jürgen Reuter" wrote: >> Another thing, I guess, is making it easy for musicians without >> programming knowledge to smoothly embed their own articulation signs, >> note heads, clefs, and other font symbols into LilyP

Re: Contemporary notation (Re: GSoC projects list)

2017-02-06 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 06.02.2017 20:15, "Jürgen Reuter" wrote: Another thing, I guess, is making it easy for musicians without programming knowledge to smoothly embed their own articulation signs, note heads, clefs, and other font symbols into LilyPond at runtime: Just define a new articulation sign or note head sh

Re: Contemporary notation (Re: GSoC projects list)

2017-02-06 Thread Jürgen Reuter
Hi all, personally, I think, it is as always in software development that addresses a wide audience: the challenge to find an appropriate level of abstraction. If you want to support *any* kind of notation, then just use a painting or CAD software. Obviously, you do not want to

Re: Contemporary notation (Re: GSoC projects list)

2017-02-06 Thread Urs Liska
OK, I think we have to take care that the discussion doesn't get out of hand now but stays closely on topic (the GSoC project). It is clear that *comprehensive* coverage of "contemporary notation" is not a goal that LilyPond should or can aim at, at least for now. What we *can* aim at is a founda

Re: Contemporary notation (Re: GSoC projects list)

2017-02-06 Thread Jeffery Shivers
> What I would > suggest a GSoC project should produce in addition is *one* coherent set > of notation features, like (just wild guesses) "Lachenmann style string > notation" or "a comprehensive set of weirdly drawn line spanners" or > "just intonation" or whatever - I would leave that as open as p

Re: Contemporary notation (Re: GSoC projects list)

2017-02-06 Thread Jeffery Shivers
Sorry, I responded to David before reading your response, but I see that we kind of said the same things. > Indeed this should be discussed thoroughly before actually investing > substantial energy in implementation. But for now I'd defer this to a moment > if there should be a student interested

Re: Contemporary notation (Re: GSoC projects list)

2017-02-06 Thread Jeffery Shivers
> Man, that sounds to me like making explosives available to as many users > as possible. I mean, I recognize that there is a need apparently to be > served, but this rather sounds like a call to expanding that need. Hm, no. There is an absurd amount of weird *needs* from composers nowadays who a

Re: Contemporary notation (Re: GSoC projects list)

2017-02-06 Thread Urs Liska
Am 06.02.2017 um 15:10 schrieb Jeffery Shivers: > I've thought about this a lot, and I agree that OLL would be the > obvious means to implement a *contemporary notation* package with > LilyPond. > > A huge problem we will face with doing this, which will always be a > problem no matter how access

Re: Contemporary notation (Re: GSoC projects list)

2017-02-06 Thread David Kastrup
Jeffery Shivers writes: > I've thought about this a lot, and I agree that OLL would be the > obvious means to implement a *contemporary notation* package with > LilyPond. > > A huge problem we will face with doing this, which will always be a > problem no matter how accessible/robust the library,

Re: Contemporary notation (Re: GSoC projects list)

2017-02-06 Thread Jeffery Shivers
I've thought about this a lot, and I agree that OLL would be the obvious means to implement a *contemporary notation* package with LilyPond. A huge problem we will face with doing this, which will always be a problem no matter how accessible/robust the library, is that there will very often be som