Nonce is a common word. I used it in an email on the user list just this
week. Nonce in crypto is used in the sense 'not once', and
compactification. But perhaps people today think it is an old fashioned
word.
OED:
"For the particular occasion; for the time being, temporarily; for once."
I'd
14 août 2022 14:05:33 Jean Abou Samra :
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> Le 14/08/2022 à 13:51, Dan Eble a écrit :
>> On Aug 14, 2022, at 04:03, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
Or maybe \textMark and \textEndMark? I'm not sure.
>>> I prefer `\textMark` over 'ad-hoc' or 'nonce'. As with Jean, I've
>>> never used the word 'n
Le 14/08/2022 à 13:51, Dan Eble a écrit :
On Aug 14, 2022, at 04:03, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
Or maybe \textMark and \textEndMark? I'm not sure.
I prefer `\textMark` over 'ad-hoc' or 'nonce'. As with Jean, I've
never used the word 'nonce' before.
I also prefer \textMark. Then ad-hoc-mark-ev
On 2022-08-14 1:47 am, Wol wrote:
On 14/08/2022 09:03, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
OK. Does it sound better to use "nonce" for the semi-deprecated
feature as you say, or actually for the new feature? Is it clearer
than "ad-hoc"? ("nonce" is a word that I learnt today.)
Or maybe \textMark and \text
On Aug 14, 2022, at 04:03, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
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>> Or maybe \textMark and \textEndMark? I'm not sure.
>
> I prefer `\textMark` over 'ad-hoc' or 'nonce'. As with Jean, I've
> never used the word 'nonce' before.
I also prefer \textMark. Then ad-hoc-mark-event can remain ad-hoc.
FYI, "nonce"
On 14/08/2022 09:03, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
OK. Does it sound better to use "nonce" for the semi-deprecated
feature as you say, or actually for the new feature? Is it clearer
than "ad-hoc"? ("nonce" is a word that I learnt today.)
Or maybe \textMark and \textEndMark? I'm not sure.
I prefer `
>> OK. Does it sound better to use "nonce" for the semi-deprecated
>> feature as you say, or actually for the new feature? Is it clearer
>> than "ad-hoc"? ("nonce" is a word that I learnt today.)
>
> Or maybe \textMark and \textEndMark? I'm not sure.
I prefer `\textMark` over 'ad-hoc' or 'nonce
Le 14/08/2022 à 09:14, Jean Abou Samra a écrit :
Le 14/08/2022 à 03:53, Dan Eble a écrit :
On Aug 13, 2022, at 19:00, Jean Abou Samra wrote:
I now have a patch locally that renames AdHocMarkEvent into
LegacyAdHocMarkEvent
(also ad-hoc-mark-event into legacy-ad-hoc-mark-event),
If I were le
Le 14/08/2022 à 03:53, Dan Eble a écrit :
On Aug 13, 2022, at 19:00, Jean Abou Samra wrote:
I now have a patch locally that renames AdHocMarkEvent into LegacyAdHocMarkEvent
(also ad-hoc-mark-event into legacy-ad-hoc-mark-event),
If I were less familiar with this stuff, I would probably be conf
On Aug 13, 2022, at 19:00, Jean Abou Samra wrote:
>
> I now have a patch locally that renames AdHocMarkEvent into
> LegacyAdHocMarkEvent
> (also ad-hoc-mark-event into legacy-ad-hoc-mark-event),
If I were less familiar with this stuff, I would probably be confused by
leaving "ad-hoc" in these
Le 10/08/2022 à 20:48, Jean Abou Samra a écrit :
Le 10/08/2022 à 20:35, Vincent Gay a écrit :
10 août 2022 20:20:52 Jean Abou Samra :
Another open question is how several marks, of any kind, should be
positioned relative to each other when they are at the same place.
In the example that starte
Le 10/08/2022 à 13:54, Dan Eble a écrit :
In other words, it actually does make sense to have both rehearsal
marks and segno signs at the same position.
Between preparing caesura-related MRs, I will try allowing a rehearsal mark to
occur at the same point as the other types of marks. Maybe
On Aug 10, 2022, at 18:01, Dan Eble wrote:
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> On Aug 10, 2022, at 14:20, Jean Abou Samra wrote:
>>
>> \set Score.rehearsalMark =
>> \mark \default
...
> Remember the reasons that you preferred that \bar send an event rather than
> set a property? Maybe they apply to this too.
Oh, never m
On Aug 10, 2022, at 14:20, Jean Abou Samra wrote:
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> There is also \mark . I don't know if it's really that
> useful. If you need this, you can just as well do
>
> \set Score.rehearsalMark =
> \mark \default
I found that interface inconvenient enough not to imitate it in the coda and
seg
Le 10/08/2022 à 21:42, Jean Abou Samra a écrit :
Le 10/08/2022 à 21:28, David Kastrup a écrit :
Jean Abou Samra writes:
Le 10/08/2022 à 20:35, Vincent Gay a écrit :
10 août 2022 20:20:52 Jean Abou Samra :
Another open question is how several marks, of any kind, should be
positioned re
Le 10/08/2022 à 21:28, David Kastrup a écrit :
Jean Abou Samra writes:
Le 10/08/2022 à 20:35, Vincent Gay a écrit :
10 août 2022 20:20:52 Jean Abou Samra :
Another open question is how several marks, of any kind, should be
positioned relative to each other when they are at the same place
Jean Abou Samra writes:
> Le 10/08/2022 à 20:35, Vincent Gay a écrit :
>> 10 août 2022 20:20:52 Jean Abou Samra :
>>
>>> Another open question is how several marks, of any kind, should be
>>> positioned relative to each other when they are at the same place.
>>> In the example that started this t
Le 10/08/2022 à 20:35, Vincent Gay a écrit :
10 août 2022 20:20:52 Jean Abou Samra :
Another open question is how several marks, of any kind, should be
positioned relative to each other when they are at the same place.
In the example that started this thread, should the "A" mark be above
the se
10 août 2022 20:20:52 Jean Abou Samra :
> Another open question is how several marks, of any kind, should be
> positioned relative to each other when they are at the same place.
> In the example that started this thread, should the "A" mark be above
> the segno mark, or on its right, or on its l
Le 10/08/2022 à 19:30, Vincent Gay a écrit :
Le 10/08/2022 à 05:01, Dan Eble a écrit :
Can you clarify for me what you wanted to achieve?
Finally I can say things differently. In jazz we don't use (or rarely
use) reheasalmarks like in classical music. On the other hand we need
various text sys
Le 10/08/2022 à 05:01, Dan Eble a écrit :
Can you clarify for me what you wanted to achieve?
Finally I can say things differently. In jazz we don't use (or rarely
use) reheasalmarks like in classical music. On the other hand we need
various text systems that can sometimes (often) overlap.
I had
Le 10/08/2022 à 05:01, Dan Eble a écrit :
I read a machine translation of the thread on lilypond-user-fr, and I thought
that probably you did not really want to print a rehearsal mark and a segno
simultaneously.
But yes, Dan, it's really what I need. Your experience is in classical
music, mi
On 2022-08-09 8:01 pm, Dan Eble wrote:
The marks that \repeat segno creates are intended to identify points
of repetition and departure for performance. Having one of those, I
do not understand why one would want to identify the same point with a
second mark for rehearsal.
Surely this is about
Le 10/08/2022 à 13:54, Dan Eble a écrit :
On Aug 10, 2022, at 00:38, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
Just imagine a piece (say, a waltz by Johann Strauss[*]) that has not
a single segno, but a bunch of them. It might confuse an orchestra if
the conductor asks to start 'at the segno' during a rehearsa
On Aug 10, 2022, at 00:38, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
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> Just imagine a piece (say, a waltz by Johann Strauss[*]) that has not
> a single segno, but a bunch of them. It might confuse an orchestra if
> the conductor asks to start 'at the segno' during a rehearsal – from
> experience I can tell you th
>> {
>> c'1
>> \mark \default
>> \repeat segno 2 {
>> c'1
>> }
>> }
> The marks that \repeat segno creates are intended to identify points
> of repetition and departure for performance. Having one of those, I
> do not understand why one would want to identify the same point with
> a
On Aug 3, 2022, at 17:22, Jean Abou Samra wrote:
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> \version "2.23.12"
>
> {
> c'1
> \mark \default
> \repeat segno 2 {
> c'1
> }
> }
>
>
> A power user on -user-fr is frustrated that the above
> doesn't work, as rehearsal-mark-event and segno-mark-event
> are mutually exclusive a
On Aug 3, 2022, at 17:22, Jean Abou Samra wrote:
>
> \version "2.23.12"
>
> {
> c'1
> \mark \default
> \repeat segno 2 {
> c'1
> }
> }
>
> A power user on -user-fr is frustrated that the above
> doesn't work, as rehearsal-mark-event and segno-mark-event
> are mutually exclusive at t
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