Re: Automatic beaming in melismas

2012-03-22 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Jean-Charles Malahieude wrote: > Le 22/03/2012 13:00, Janek Warchoł disait : >> >> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Francisco Vila wrote: >>> Melismas are indicated in the score by slurs, so slur >>> equals melisma. >> >> Not always. Sometimes they're also used

Re: Automatic beaming in melismas

2012-03-22 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude
Le 22/03/2012 20:20, Jean-Charles Malahieude disait : Le 22/03/2012 20:08, David Kastrup disait : Jean-Charles Malahieude writes: The main problem in this case, in my opinion, is that you can't even build a shortcut for combining melisma and autobeaming, since beaming is *prefix* and melisma *

Re: Automatic beaming in melismas

2012-03-22 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude
Le 22/03/2012 20:08, David Kastrup disait : Jean-Charles Malahieude writes: The main problem in this case, in my opinion, is that you can't even build a shortcut for combining melisma and autobeaming, since beaming is *prefix* and melisma *postfix*. Beaming is prefix? just tried : mbY =

Re: Automatic beaming in melismas

2012-03-22 Thread David Kastrup
Jean-Charles Malahieude writes: > The main problem in this case, in my opinion, is that you can't even > build a shortcut for combining melisma and autobeaming, since beaming > is *prefix* and melisma *postfix*. Beaming is prefix? -- David Kastrup

Re: Automatic beaming in melismas

2012-03-22 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude
Le 22/03/2012 13:00, Janek Warchoł disait : On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Francisco Vila wrote: 2012/3/22 Janek Warchoł: What i suggest would be quite the opposite: every melisma should be indicated using a melisma command, and *then* user can decide how he wants melismas to look like: sho

Re: Automatic beaming in melismas

2012-03-22 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/3/22 Janek Warchoł : > well, we don't have a \slur and \slurEnd commands.  Aslo, melismas > appear so often that i think the syntax should be standarized. > But i'm not at all against having both full name and shortcut, > similarly to -\staccato and -. Totally agreed. -- Francisco Vila. Bad

Re: Automatic beaming in melismas

2012-03-22 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Francisco Vila wrote: > 2012/3/22 Janek Warchoł : >> What i suggest would be quite the opposite: every melisma should be >> indicated using a melisma command, and *then* user can decide how he >> wants melismas to look like: should every melisma be automatically >

Re: Automatic beaming in melismas

2012-03-22 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/3/22 Janek Warchoł : > The current behavior is bad, because it mixes two different things: > melismas themselves and how they are represented.  If i use either slurs or > manual beams for melismas, i'm hardcoding some redundant (or at least > partially redundant) information into my source fil

Re: Automatic beaming in melismas

2012-03-22 Thread Janek Warchoł
Moving from -user. On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Here's my opinion: > > 1. The default auto-beaming should produce scores which represent > the current best practice in the engraving industry, which is to ignore lyrics > (inside and outside melismas) and beam as if it