Re: [proposal] easy triplets and tuplets - was [talk] easy tuplets

2012-10-08 Thread James
Hello, On 8 October 2012 14:19, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: > On 10/08/2012 01:29 PM, James wrote: >> >> I have the good fortune to play with >> semi-professionals and also teachers who when I queried said [I >> paraphrase], well sure I guess you could technically call them that, >> but 'no on

Re: [proposal] easy triplets and tuplets - was [talk] easy tuplets

2012-10-08 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 10/08/2012 01:29 PM, James wrote: I have the good fortune to play with semi-professionals and also teachers who when I queried said [I paraphrase], well sure I guess you could technically call them that, but 'no one really does' and besides when do you stop calling them their numerically accur

Re: [proposal] easy triplets and tuplets - was [talk] easy tuplets

2012-10-08 Thread David Kastrup
James writes: > I have no problem with having more commands in that while 'musos' > might have their terms, I have the good fortune to play with > semi-professionals and also teachers who when I queried said [I > paraphrase], well sure I guess you could technically call them that, > but 'no one r

Re: [proposal] easy triplets and tuplets - was [talk] easy tuplets

2012-10-08 Thread James
Ian, On 6 October 2012 16:40, Ian Hulin wrote: > On 05/10/12 08:10, James wrote: >> Hello, >> >> On 5 October 2012 00:19, Ian Hulin wrote: >>> This is a proposal to move the triplet/tuplet discussion forward. >>> >>> There will be new commands to supplement (or eventually replace) the >>> curren

Re: [proposal] easy triplets and tuplets - was [talk] easy tuplets

2012-10-06 Thread David Kastrup
Ian Hulin writes: > On 05/10/12 08:47, David Kastrup wrote: >> Ian Hulin writes: >> >>> 1. Should the new \tuplet retain the \times meaning of the fraction, >>> i.e. \tuplet 2/3 {c8 c c} uses 2/3 because that's what you'd use if you >>> were just using durations: c8*2/3 c c , or >>> invert it a

Re: [proposal] easy triplets and tuplets - was [talk] easy tuplets

2012-10-06 Thread Ian Hulin
On 05/10/12 08:47, David Kastrup wrote: > Ian Hulin writes: > >> 1. Should the new \tuplet retain the \times meaning of the fraction, >> i.e. \tuplet 2/3 {c8 c c} uses 2/3 because that's what you'd use if you >> were just using durations: c8*2/3 c c , or >> invert it as \tuplet 3/2 {c8 c c} becau

Re: [proposal] easy triplets and tuplets - was [talk] easy tuplets

2012-10-06 Thread Ian Hulin
On 05/10/12 08:10, James wrote: > Hello, > > On 5 October 2012 00:19, Ian Hulin wrote: >> This is a proposal to move the triplet/tuplet discussion forward. >> >> There will be new commands to supplement (or eventually replace) the >> current \times command. >> >> 1. \tuplet n/m {} >> % does what

Re: [proposal] easy triplets and tuplets - was [talk] easy tuplets

2012-10-06 Thread David Kastrup
Joseph Rushton Wakeling writes: > On 10/05/2012 09:31 AM, Keith OHara wrote: >> It is easier to keep the order straight if you write a 5:4 tuplet >> as \tuplet 5/4 {} > > Is there any reason why you couldn't write \tuplet 5:4 {} ... ? Yes. 5/4 is an item that the parser is readily able to recog

Re: [proposal] easy triplets and tuplets - was [talk] easy tuplets

2012-10-06 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 10/05/2012 09:31 AM, Keith OHara wrote: It is easier to keep the order straight if you write a 5:4 tuplet as \tuplet 5/4 {} Is there any reason why you couldn't write \tuplet 5:4 {} ... ? Keeps exact match between musical and Lilypond syntax and avoids the potential mental block of having

Re: [proposal] easy triplets and tuplets - was [talk] easy tuplets

2012-10-05 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
On 2012-10-05 09:10, James wrote: Hello, On 5 October 2012 00:19, Ian Hulin wrote: This is a proposal to move the triplet/tuplet discussion forward. There will be new commands to supplement (or eventually replace) the current \times command. 1. \tuplet n/m {} % does what \times does, but no

Re: [proposal] easy triplets and tuplets - was [talk] easy tuplets

2012-10-05 Thread David Kastrup
Ian Hulin writes: > 1. Should the new \tuplet retain the \times meaning of the fraction, > i.e. \tuplet 2/3 {c8 c c} uses 2/3 because that's what you'd use if you > were just using durations: c8*2/3 c c , or > invert it as \tuplet 3/2 {c8 c c} because that reflects better the > "three notes in th

Re: [proposal] easy triplets and tuplets - was [talk] easy tuplets

2012-10-05 Thread Keith OHara
Ian Hulin hulin.org.uk> writes: > Questions: > 1. Should the new \tuplet [...] > \tuplet 3/2 {c8 c c} because that reflects better the > "three notes in the time of two" definition of a triplet. It is easier to keep the order straight if you write a 5:4 tuplet as \tuplet 5/4 {} We have to inve

Re: [proposal] easy triplets and tuplets - was [talk] easy tuplets

2012-10-05 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hello James, Ian and list, On 05.10.2012 09:10, James wrote: Hello, On 5 October 2012 00:19, Ian Hulin wrote: This is a proposal to move the triplet/tuplet discussion forward. There will be new commands to supplement (or eventually replace) the current \times command. 1. \tuplet n/m {} % d

Re: [proposal] easy triplets and tuplets - was [talk] easy tuplets

2012-10-05 Thread James
Hello, On 5 October 2012 00:19, Ian Hulin wrote: > This is a proposal to move the triplet/tuplet discussion forward. > > There will be new commands to supplement (or eventually replace) the > current \times command. > > 1. \tuplet n/m {} > % does what \times does, but not so easily confused with