Re: Prefer luatex for documentation,Re: Prefer luatex for documentation

2022-11-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Indeed, I didn't find a Perl library that would support locales > without them being present on the system. However, all of > > https://perldoc.perl.org/Unicode::Collate (Perl) > https://github.com/jtauber/pyuca (Python) > https://docs.rs/unicode-collation/0.0.1/unicode_collation/ (Rust) > >

Re: Prefer luatex for documentation, Re: Prefer luatex for documentation

2022-11-21 Thread Kevin Barry
On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 12:03:34PM +0100, Luca Fascione wrote: > I must say I don't understand this discussion. I agree with most of what Luca said. I'm sure whatever the maintenance burden is, Werner is likely to bear it himself. Supporting newer versions of tools may even help (cf. texi2html an

Re: Prefer luatex for documentation, Re: Prefer luatex for documentation

2022-11-21 Thread Luca Fascione
I must say I don't understand this discussion. If we as the developers of Lilypond recommend users move onto lilypond-next, shouldn't we also keep current with versions of software around us? After all, we upgrade platforms, compilers, python interpreters, guile interpreters and all that, what exa

Re: Prefer luatex for documentation,Re: Prefer luatex for documentation

2022-11-20 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> There are a bunch of LaTeX packages that only work with a specific >> TeX engine, and which need special input code for that. For >> example, `fontspec` (with its excellent OpenType support) only >> works with XeTeX and luatex. Or think of 'lyluatex', which >> obviously needs luatex. > > Ye

Re: Prefer luatex for documentation,Re: Prefer luatex for documentation

2022-11-20 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> There are a bunch of LaTeX packages that only work with a specific >> TeX engine, and which need special input code for that. For >> example, `fontspec` (with its excellent OpenType support) only >> works with XeTeX and luatex. Or think of 'lyluatex', which >> obviously needs luatex. > > Ye

Re: Prefer luatex for documentation,Re: Prefer luatex for documentation,Re: Prefer luatex for documentation,Re: Prefer luatex for documentation

2022-11-20 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> in LaTeX, there are *really* differences depending on the engine. > > Oh, really? Color me surprised. Are there tools other than build > systems that read those environment variables? And users set them > globally, in spite of the incompatibilities that exist between the > TeX engines? There

Re: Prefer luatex for documentation,Re: Prefer luatex for documentation

2022-11-20 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 20/11/2022 à 15:40, Werner LEMBERG a écrit : I'm too tired to defend superior typographical output again and again since it is obviously only me who sees a benefit in it. It's not that I don't see any benefit at all in superior typographical output. However, the benefits are tiny in my vie

Re: Prefer luatex for documentation,Re: Prefer luatex for documentation

2022-11-20 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> On the other hand, most contributors (except those who want to > fine-tune the typography, i.e. basically you, Werner) will want the > doc build to be as fast as possible, so I'm not fond of using it by > default. OK. I will adapt my patch accordingly and remove luatex from the `configure` scr