Re: LilyPond 2.1.22 released

2004-02-16 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: I want the syntax to reflect what Lily is doing inside. If you can figure out a way to unify both types of properties internally, I will unify the syntax. Ideally, the user shouldn't need to know anything about the structur

Re: LilyPond 2.1.22 released

2004-02-16 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > > I want the syntax to reflect what Lily is doing inside. If you can > > figure out a way to unify both types of properties internally, I will > > unify the syntax. > > Ideally, the user shouldn't need to know anything about the structure > of

Re: LilyPond 2.1.22 released

2004-02-16 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: I want the syntax to reflect what Lily is doing inside. If you can figure out a way to unify both types of properties internally, I will unify the syntax. Ideally, the user shouldn't need to know anything about the structure of the implementation. If we need the separation,

Re: LilyPond 2.1.22 released

2004-02-15 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Yes - that's exactly the view I want to go away, because I think it > > breeds confusion over what Lily is doing, and as a result, it makes > > it harder to understand how to influence the formatting process. > > Really? Why do you think that confusion could arise?

Re: LilyPond 2.1.22 released

2004-02-15 Thread Heikki Johannes Junes
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 16:00:10 +0100 (CET) Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From a user's point of view, a property is a property. > > > > Yes - that's exactly the view I want to go away, because I think it > > breeds confusion over what Lily is doing, and as a result, it makes > > it

Re: LilyPond 2.1.22 released

2004-02-15 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > From a user's point of view, a property is a property. > > Yes - that's exactly the view I want to go away, because I think it > breeds confusion over what Lily is doing, and as a result, it makes > it harder to understand how to influence the formatting process. Really? Why do you think that

Re: LilyPond 2.1.22 released

2004-02-15 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > You still don't understand me. I wonder why we need a different > syntax for changing translation and layout properties. > From a user's > point of view, a property is a property. Yes - that's exactly the view I want to go away, because I think it breeds confusion o

Re: LilyPond 2.1.22 released

2004-02-15 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> \set and \unset involve translation properties > (eg. Score.measurePosition), while \override and \revert involve > layout properties (eg. #'thickness, #'direction). If this doesn't > clarify things, then you should read the LilyPond documentation, > chapter Technical Manual. You still don't u

Re: LilyPond 2.1.22 released

2004-02-14 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Read the release notes more carefully. Essentially, I have removed > > the old-style \set. Now, \unset is the proper inverse of \set . > > I've read that -- excuse my ignorance, but I still don't get it. > Assuming the new keywords, what is the actual difference?

Re: LilyPond 2.1.22 released

2004-02-14 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Read the release notes more carefully. Essentially, I have removed > the old-style \set. Now, \unset is the proper inverse of \set . I've read that -- excuse my ignorance, but I still don't get it. Assuming the new keywords, what is the actual difference? What can you do with \override what \s

Re: LilyPond 2.1.22 released

2004-02-14 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > What's the difference between \set and \override, except syntax? > > > > that they do entirely different things. > > Really? Please give an example where \set and \override do different > things. Read the release notes more carefully. Essentially, I have remov

Re: LilyPond 2.1.22 released

2004-02-14 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > What's the difference between \set and \override, except syntax? > > that they do entirely different things. Really? Please give an example where \set and \override do different things. Werner ___ Lilypond-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: LilyPond 2.1.22 released

2004-02-14 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > \property A.B \override #C = #D (removed) > > \property A.B \revert #C \revert A.B #C > > What's the difference between \set and \override, except syntax? Why that they do entirely different things. I think that another keyword clarifi

Re: LilyPond 2.1.22 released

2004-02-14 Thread Juergen Reuter
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > >* The syntax for setting properties has been simplified: the > > following table lists the differences: > > > >(old) (new) > > > > \property A.B = #C\set A.B = #C > >

Re: LilyPond 2.1.22 released

2004-02-14 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> \property A.B = #C\set A.B = #C > \property A.B \unset \unset A.B > \property A.B \set #C = #D\override A.B #C = #D > \property A.B \override #C = #D (removed) > \property A.B \revert #C \revert A.B

Re: LilyPond 2.1.22 released

2004-02-14 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>* The syntax for setting properties has been simplified: the > following table lists the differences: > >(old) (new) > > \property A.B = #C\set A.B = #C > \property A.B \unset \unset A.B >