Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:21:28 +0100 "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eyolf, you wrote > > >>> I have pushed a new reordering for 2.1 "Vocal music"; please tell > >>> me what you think about it. > >> > >> I don't like it. > > > > Is Trevor beginning to sound like Graham...? :) > > Ma

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Eyolf, you wrote I have pushed a new reordering for 2.1 "Vocal music"; please tell me what you think about it. I don't like it. Is Trevor beginning to sound like Graham...? :) Mao, yes; I thought Valentin would be missing him by now ;) Trevor __

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin, Let's review the background first. The basic problem is that pretty much all the material in the sections from the current 2.1.2 to 2.1.5 is really common to all lyrics and vocals, but there is too much of it to cram it all into a single section. So we have to compromise, and one

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-13 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/10/13 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > That's because you've put all the different style stuff > where it doesn't belong, in "Common notation". "Common > notation" should contain _only_ things which are used > in _all_ the styles. "Common" here means "belonging > equally to all", not i

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-13 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 13.10.2008 (09:06), Trevor Daniels wrote: > Valentin, you wrote Sunday, October 12, 2008 12:38 PM > >> 2008/10/3 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >>> This is good. I'm very happy with this. >> >> Greetings Trevor, >> >> I have pushed a new reordering for 2.1 "Vocal music"; please tell me

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin, you wrote Sunday, October 12, 2008 12:38 PM 2008/10/3 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: This is good. I'm very happy with this. Greetings Trevor, I have pushed a new reordering for 2.1 "Vocal music"; please tell me what you think about it. I don't like it. http://git.savan

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-12 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/10/3 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > This is good. I'm very happy with this. Greetings Trevor, I have pushed a new reordering for 2.1 "Vocal music"; please tell me what you think about it. http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=commitdiff;h=3876f0ba8573e18a063a5b96324b

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin, you wrote Friday, October 03, 2008 8:42 AM 2008/10/2 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I wish we could have a "common notation" section that would deal with the voice as an instrument (for instance, the parlato notehead example is quite good; we could also add the http://lsr.dsi.u

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-03 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/10/2 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I have to agree with you that Common notation for vocals > is too long, and would be better split into at least two > sections. Taking your idea a little further, what do you > think about > > 2.1.1 Common notation for entering lyrics > Refere

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin, you wrote Thursday, October 02, 2008 5:43 PM 2008/10/2 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: OK. Below is one possible layout which seems to work. Most of the stuff is under "Common", as all the lyrics-specific notation is common. The differences arise in how the lyrics are organi

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-02 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/10/2 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It is to treat the different vocal styles such > as Simple songs, part writing, chants, etc, as > the equivalent of the different instruments in > the other NR 2 sections. So this style layout > would be something like: > > 2.1 Vocal music > 2.1.1 C

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-02 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/10/2 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2.1 Vocal music > 2.1.1 Common notation for vocals > 2.1.2 Setting simple songs > 2.1.3 Part writing > 2.1.4 Setting chants > 2.1.5 etc > > Then under Common notation for vocals > there would be > > References for vocals > > > and under each vocal

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin, you wrote Thursday, October 02, 2008 7:41 AM 2008/10/2 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I agree it does not belong within any section, yet at present it appears within 2.1.1 Entering lyrics. As the only references we have so far identified are one to the Learning Manual and one

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-01 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/10/2 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I agree it does not belong within any section, yet > at present it appears within 2.1.1 Entering lyrics. > As the only references we have so far identified > are one to the Learning Manual and one to templates, > both of which are suitable as introdu

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin, you wrote Wednesday, October 01, 2008 7:40 PM 2008/10/1 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: There will not be many References for vocal music, as pretty well all of it is going to be in this section, but there should be one to @rlearning{Songs}, which gives a gentle introduction t

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-01 Thread John Mandereau
Le mercredi 01 octobre 2008 à 20:40 +0200, Valentin Villenave a écrit : > 2008/10/1 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I've not pushed this, as I know nothing of translations, but I'm happy to do > > so if John says it's OK. LGTM, but you needn't bother updating Documentation/de/user/vocal.it

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-01 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/10/1 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Thanks for this. I'm happy with the reorganisation in general. As there is > only one vocal "instrument" the standard layout for NR 2 does not apply > here, so dropping the Common notation ... section is fine. On second thought, I think maybe it m

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
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Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-10-01 Thread Till Rettig
John Mandereau schrieb: On 2008/09/30 23:34 +0200, Francisco Vila wrote: 2008/9/30 Valentin Villenave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 2008/9/30 Francisco Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: As headword, woult it serve a fragment of Janequin's Le Chant des Oyseaux? It is onomatopoeic and funny look

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-09-30 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/9/30 John Mandereau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > This headword idea is very cool, but just make sure the original score > edition is in the public domain. The Mutopia item is PD and done by Till Retig after Alphonse Leduc, Paris, 1908. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org __

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-09-30 Thread John Mandereau
On 2008/09/30 23:34 +0200, Francisco Vila wrote: > 2008/9/30 Valentin Villenave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > 2008/9/30 Francisco Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> As headword, woult it serve a fragment of Janequin's Le Chant des > >> Oyseaux? It is onomatopoeic and funny looking. Or, it would be better >

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-09-30 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/9/30 Valentin Villenave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2008/9/30 Francisco Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> As headword, woult it serve a fragment of Janequin's Le Chant des >> Oyseaux? It is onomatopoeic and funny looking. Or, it would be better >> some one-voice piece? > > Great! Awesome! Super! (can't

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-09-30 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/9/30 Francisco Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > As headword, woult it serve a fragment of Janequin's Le Chant des > Oyseaux? It is onomatopoeic and funny looking. Or, it would be better > some one-voice piece? Great! Awesome! Super! (can't think of anything else, sorry :-) Cheers, Valentin

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-09-30 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude
Le 30.09.2008 22:01, Francisco Vila disait : 2008/9/30 Francisco Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Wow! you are fast. LGTM As headword, woult it serve a fragment of Janequin's Le Chant des Oyseaux? It is onomatopoeic and funny looking. Or, it would be better some one-voice piece? If needed, I made

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-09-30 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/9/30 Francisco Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Wow! you are fast. LGTM As headword, woult it serve a fragment of Janequin's Le Chant des Oyseaux? It is onomatopoeic and funny looking. Or, it would be better some one-voice piece? -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.org ___

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-09-30 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/9/30 Valentin Villenave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2008/9/30 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> It's all yours! Forget the opera - have some light relief! > > Thanks -- although working on "vocal music" is not as exotic as I'd like :-) > > OK, here's a first patch. John, Francisco, please hav

Re: Fw: Vocal music

2008-09-30 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/9/30 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It's all yours! Forget the opera - have some light relief! Thanks -- although working on "vocal music" is not as exotic as I'd like :-) OK, here's a first patch. John, Francisco, please have a look before pushing; as explained in the commit's descr

Fw: Vocal music

2008-09-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Valentin It's all yours! Forget the opera - have some light relief! Trevor - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Kulp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Valentin Villenave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Francisco Vila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, Se