Re: [SPAM] Re: Serious feedback and improvement headroom

2014-04-11 Thread Łukasz Czerwiński
I agree with this freak called Janek ;) Actually I can hear there some reverberation of my own ideas ;) That's great that you want to make Lilypond more user-friendly and make the initial learning curve not that steep, but it the same time don't forget our you Ultimate Goal. That's awesome! :) All

Re: [SPAM] Re: Serious feedback and improvement headroom

2014-04-11 Thread David Kastrup
Joram Berger writes: >> Well, it's also in the market for dinosaur tools, namely text-based >> batch processing tools. > > If dinosaur means that they will die out as time passes, I don't > agree. Living fossils, then. The way of the horseshoe crab... > Considering the recent emphasis on web-

Re: [SPAM] Re: Serious feedback and improvement headroom

2014-04-11 Thread Joram Berger
> Well, it's also in the market for dinosaur tools, namely text-based > batch processing tools. If dinosaur means that they will die out as time passes, I don't agree. Considering the recent emphasis on web-techniques, I feel like some people actually start liking text-based approaches due to th

Re: [SPAM] Re: Serious feedback and improvement headroom

2014-04-11 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" writes: > - Original Message - > From: Jan Warchoł > To: David Kastrup ; Mike Solomon ; Kieren MacMillan ; Han-Wen Nienhuys > Cc: LilyPond Development Team > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:23 PM > Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: Serious feedb

Re: [SPAM] Re: Serious feedback and improvement headroom

2014-04-11 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Jan Warchoł To: David Kastrup ; Mike Solomon ; Kieren MacMillan ; Han-Wen Nienhuys Cc: LilyPond Development Team Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: Serious feedback and improvement headroom Look at what happened with Browser Wars

Re: [SPAM] Re: Serious feedback and improvement headroom

2014-04-10 Thread David Kastrup
Jan Warchoł writes: > Or, to look from other perspective: at current development speed, it > will take LilyPond somewhere between 10 and 100 years to reach the > stage where it does most of the things The Right Way (TM) (i.e. that > most of the ordinary scores are engraved 100% publication qualit

Re: [SPAM] Re: Serious feedback and improvement headroom

2014-04-10 Thread Jan Warchoł
Post Scriptum: after rereading my previous email, i see that it sounds as if i believed that implementing the Ultimate Goal (i.e. automatic engraving) and effectively improving "efficiency" were mutually exclusive. I don't think that's the case - in some cases the most effective (= with the bigges

Re: [SPAM] Re: Serious feedback and improvement headroom

2014-04-10 Thread Jan Warchoł
Hi, 2014-04-10 11:51 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup : > Urs Liska writes: > >> Am 09.04.2014 11:53, schrieb Jan Warchoł: >> >>> Concerning compilation speed - this is indeed a serious problem for >>> LilyPond, and i don't know which part of the code is most responsible for >>> this. Unfortunately i exp

Re: [SPAM] Re: Serious feedback and improvement headroom

2014-04-10 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Am 09.04.2014 11:53, schrieb Jan Warchoł: > >> Concerning compilation speed - this is indeed a serious problem for >> LilyPond, and i don't know which part of the code is most responsible for >> this. Unfortunately i expect that changing this would require at least one >> exp

Re: [SPAM] Re: Serious feedback and improvement headroom

2014-04-10 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.04.2014 11:53, schrieb Jan Warchoł: 2014-04-04 12:43 GMT+02:00 Urs Liska : (the handling of accidentals in the input for example: In Amadeus you write the "visible" notes, that is: the meaning of "d f a" depends on the currently active key signature). But some others look interesting, an