Compiling Japanese snippets.pdf fails

2020-09-28 Thread Michael Käppler
Hi all, I'd like to resume my work regarding upgrading texinfo.tex [1] from June. However, one problem leads to another (as usually :-)) and the peacefully failing XeTeX without comprehensible error messages is not exactly helpful für debugging. Anyway, I got the latest texinfo.tex from the Texinf

Re: tie over clef change

2020-09-28 Thread Dan Eble
On Sep 27, 2020, at 16:49, Jean Abou Samra wrote: > > Hi all, > > So, I've tried to follow this thread, but with 35 messages, this is becoming > difficult... > > Could someone make a short summary of what is at stake here? What should we > decide? The thread has veered into musicology, which

Re: tie over clef change

2020-09-28 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
The tonal center collapse is done purely vocally in an a cappella passage and when the instruments come back in, it's in a resurrection key and instrument groups (like brass) that are typical for it. [...] Here is a link to a Herreweghe version. The

Re: tie over clef change

2020-09-28 Thread Benkő Pál
David Kastrup ezt írta (időpont: 2020. szept. 27., V, 22:01): > > Hans Åberg writes: > > >> On 27 Sep 2020, at 19:57, Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote: > >> > >>> I seem to remember that even in Bach's B minor mass (where E12 was not > >>> yet a thing) there is an enharmonic tie (or at least tonal repet

Re: tie over clef change

2020-09-28 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 28 Sep 2020, at 00:26, Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote: > >>> However, this gets *never* notated as such. >>> >> I gave the example of augment sixth chords, that seem to never be notated as >> diminished sevenths. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augmented_sixth_chord > I assume you meant "