However, this gets *never* notated as such.
I gave the example of augment sixth chords, that seem to never be notated as
diminished sevenths.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augmented_sixth_chord
I assume you meant "dominant sevenths"? (Augmented sixth chords, at
least "Italian" and "German"
Hi all,
So, I've tried to follow this thread, but with 35 messages, this is
becoming difficult...
Could someone make a short summary of what is at stake here? What should
we decide?
Thanks,
Jean
> On 27 Sep 2020, at 22:17, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
>
>>> It is common, for example, for a composer to write D sharp for some
>>> instruments and E flat for others.
>>
>> A composer should write so that it becomes easy for the musician to
>> perform, otherwise they will have to edit the score, w
> On 27 Sep 2020, at 22:01, David Kastrup wrote:
>
> Hans Åberg writes:
>
>>> On 27 Sep 2020, at 19:57, Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote:
>>>
I seem to remember that even in Bach's B minor mass (where E12 was not
yet a thing) there is an enharmonic tie (or at least tonal repetition?)
>> It is common, for example, for a composer to write D sharp for some
>> instruments and E flat for others.
>
> A composer should write so that it becomes easy for the musician to
> perform, otherwise they will have to edit the score, which costs
> time and money. The musicians then listens to
Kevin Barry writes:
>> Both cases were discussed. For an orchestra they are not the same
> pitch, thus formally a slur.
>
> You cannot make this assumption. It is exceptional to distinguish D
> sharp and E flat since most performed orchestral music is equally
> tempered. It is common, for example
Hans Åberg writes:
>> On 27 Sep 2020, at 19:57, Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote:
>>
>>> I seem to remember that even in Bach's B minor mass (where E12 was not
>>> yet a thing) there is an enharmonic tie (or at least tonal repetition?)
>>> in the transition from "Confiteor" to "Et expecto". I mean, th
> On 27 Sep 2020, at 20:59, Kevin Barry wrote:
>
>> Both cases were discussed. For an orchestra they are not the same pitch,
>> thus formally a slur.
>
> You cannot make this assumption. It is exceptional to distinguish D
> sharp and E flat since most performed orchestral music is equally
> t
> Both cases were discussed. For an orchestra they are not the same pitch, thus
> formally a slur.
You cannot make this assumption. It is exceptional to distinguish D
sharp and E flat since most performed orchestral music is equally
tempered. It is common, for example, for a composer to write D s
> On 27 Sep 2020, at 19:57, Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote:
>
>> I seem to remember that even in Bach's B minor mass (where E12 was not
>> yet a thing) there is an enharmonic tie (or at least tonal repetition?)
>> in the transition from "Confiteor" to "Et expecto". I mean, that
>> transition is a to
> On 27 Sep 2020, at 20:20, David Kastrup wrote:
>
> Hans Åberg writes:
>
>>> On 27 Sep 2020, at 19:31, David Kastrup wrote:
>>>
>>> Hans Åberg writes:
>>>
> On 26 Sep 2020, at 18:04, Dan Eble wrote:
>
>> On Sep 26, 2020, at 09:41, Dan Eble wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 26,
Hans Åberg writes:
>> On 27 Sep 2020, at 19:31, David Kastrup wrote:
>>
>> Hans Åberg writes:
>>
On 26 Sep 2020, at 18:04, Dan Eble wrote:
> On Sep 26, 2020, at 09:41, Dan Eble wrote:
>
> On Sep 26, 2020, at 08:55, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
>>
>>
>> Despit
> On 27 Sep 2020, at 19:31, David Kastrup wrote:
>
> Hans Åberg writes:
>
>>> On 26 Sep 2020, at 18:04, Dan Eble wrote:
>>>
On Sep 26, 2020, at 09:41, Dan Eble wrote:
On Sep 26, 2020, at 08:55, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
>
>
> Despite Gould's “incorrect” verdict,
Lukas-Fabian Moser writes:
>> I seem to remember that even in Bach's B minor mass (where E12 was not
>> yet a thing) there is an enharmonic tie (or at least tonal repetition?)
>> in the transition from "Confiteor" to "Et expecto". I mean, that
>> transition is a tonal center nightmare anyway.
>
Jean Abou Samra writes:
> Le 27/09/2020 à 19:37, David Kastrup a écrit :
>
>> (in-chord slurs are not reallya good reference since
>> they currently suck with regard to theirpositioning).
> By the way... if you have information about this, that's very
> welcome in https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lil
I seem to remember that even in Bach's B minor mass (where E12 was not
yet a thing) there is an enharmonic tie (or at least tonal repetition?)
in the transition from "Confiteor" to "Et expecto". I mean, that
transition is a tonal center nightmare anyway.
In bar 138:
Basically that is an exampl
Le 27/09/2020 à 19:37, David Kastrup a écrit :
(in-chord slurs are not reallya good reference since
they currently suck with regard to theirpositioning).
By the way... if you have information about this, that's very
welcome in https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/5616!
Cheers, Jean
Dan Eble writes:
> On Sep 26, 2020, at 13:11, Hans Åberg wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 26 Sep 2020, at 18:50, Dan Eble wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sep 26, 2020, at 12:34, Hans Åberg wrote:
> On 26 Sep 2020, at 18:04, Dan Eble wrote:
>
>> On Sep 26, 2020, at 09:41, Dan Eble wrote:
>>
Hans Åberg writes:
>> On 26 Sep 2020, at 18:04, Dan Eble wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 26, 2020, at 09:41, Dan Eble wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sep 26, 2020, at 08:55, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
Despite Gould's “incorrect” verdict, here is an example from an old UE
edition of Liszt's “Liebestr
Le 26/09/2020 à 10:26, Jonas Hahnfeld a écrit :
Am Freitag, den 25.09.2020, 21:14 +0200 schrieb Jean Abou Samra:
Le 25/09/2020 à 16:39, Jonas Hahnfeld a écrit :
Am Freitag, den 25.09.2020, 16:01 +0200 schrieb Jean Abou Samra:
Le 25/09/2020 à 15:48, Jonas Hahnfeld a écrit :
Anyway, running
Jonas Hahnfeld via Discussions on LilyPond development
writes:
> Am Freitag, den 25.09.2020, 17:11 -0600 schrieb Carl Sorensen:
>> After our two-day break as requested by Jean, I thought I'd look for
>> something definitive about the question raised by Karsten.
>>
>> I haven't found any cases wh
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Le 27/09/2020 à 05:24, Andrew Bernard a écrit :
That can't be a tie because the second note would not have the
accidental, in general.
What do you mean? Currently { cis'1~ cis' } produces a Tie object.
Best,
Jean
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