Re: Serious feedback and improvement headroom

2014-04-11 Thread Urs Liska
Am 12.04.2014 00:00, schrieb Francisco Vila: 2014-04-11 14:52 GMT+02:00 Jan-Peter Voigt : Yes, but lilypond is a text-based commandline tool that can easily be used with frescobaldi. So I would say, it's a good thing, if there are ways to make communication between lily and frescobaldi easier to

Re: Serious feedback and improvement headroom

2014-04-11 Thread Francisco Vila
2014-04-11 14:52 GMT+02:00 Jan-Peter Voigt : > Yes, but lilypond is a text-based commandline tool that can easily be used > with frescobaldi. So I would say, it's a good thing, if there are ways to > make communication between lily and frescobaldi easier to achieve cool > things. But the graphical

Re: Serious feedback and improvement headroom

2014-04-11 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Paul Morris writes: > On the question about possibilities for some kind of partial compilation, > I'd be curious to hear from Jan about his experience with Schikker's > List[1]. Do I remember correctly that it uses LilyPond to re-engrave only > part of the music, just the part that changed? Yes,

Re: [SPAM] Re: Serious feedback and improvement headroom

2014-04-11 Thread Łukasz Czerwiński
I agree with this freak called Janek ;) Actually I can hear there some reverberation of my own ideas ;) That's great that you want to make Lilypond more user-friendly and make the initial learning curve not that steep, but it the same time don't forget our you Ultimate Goal. That's awesome! :) All

Re: Serious feedback and improvement headroom

2014-04-11 Thread Paul Morris
Hi all, On the question about possibilities for some kind of partial compilation, I'd be curious to hear from Jan about his experience with Schikker's List[1]. Do I remember correctly that it uses LilyPond to re-engrave only part of the music, just the part that changed? Cheers, -Paul [1] htt

Re: Serious feedback and improvement headroom

2014-04-11 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi there, Am 11.04.14 00:36, schrieb Urs Liska: Nevertheless I think that trying to improve usability _now_ _is_ a good thing. Yes it is, _but_ the question of _how_ to achieve the improved usibility is dangerous. We should focus on the unique characteristic of lilypond: It can't do graphical

Re: [SPAM] Re: Serious feedback and improvement headroom

2014-04-11 Thread David Kastrup
Joram Berger writes: >> Well, it's also in the market for dinosaur tools, namely text-based >> batch processing tools. > > If dinosaur means that they will die out as time passes, I don't > agree. Living fossils, then. The way of the horseshoe crab... > Considering the recent emphasis on web-

Re: [SPAM] Re: Serious feedback and improvement headroom

2014-04-11 Thread Joram Berger
> Well, it's also in the market for dinosaur tools, namely text-based > batch processing tools. If dinosaur means that they will die out as time passes, I don't agree. Considering the recent emphasis on web-techniques, I feel like some people actually start liking text-based approaches due to th

Re: [SPAM] Re: Serious feedback and improvement headroom

2014-04-11 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" writes: > - Original Message - > From: Jan Warchoł > To: David Kastrup ; Mike Solomon ; Kieren MacMillan ; Han-Wen Nienhuys > Cc: LilyPond Development Team > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:23 PM > Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: Serious feedback and improvement headroom > >> Look

Re: [SPAM] Re: Serious feedback and improvement headroom

2014-04-11 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Jan Warchoł To: David Kastrup ; Mike Solomon ; Kieren MacMillan ; Han-Wen Nienhuys Cc: LilyPond Development Team Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: Serious feedback and improvement headroom Look at what happened with Browser Wars: in

Re: Serious feedback and improvement headroom

2014-04-11 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Am 11.04.2014 00:51, schrieb David Kastrup: > >> I want to be able to draw up some score of mine in ten years and >> print new versions of it using the version of LilyPond I'll be using >> then. I've done a mediocre job of ensuring that regarding the >> stability of LilyPond'