Re: API for getting various kinds of grobs

2013-03-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> What i would like: specify the reference grob in a property, for > example > > \override LyricText #'align-to = #'Stem > > and then have one callback function that would be smart enough to > find appropriate grob to use and feed it to the method calculating > alignment. >From an API point of

Re: GUB error with unpure-pure-container.cc

2013-03-10 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 06:22:57PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: >> /home/gub/gub/target/darwin-ppc/src/lilypond-git.sv.gnu.org--lilypond.git-release-unstable/lily/unpure-pure-container.cc:140: >> error: initializing argument 2 of 'void >> scm_set_smob_apply(scm_t_bits, sc

API for getting various kinds of grobs

2013-03-10 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, since Mike is very busy i decided to post some of my questions to the list. I'm working on simplifying self_alignment_interface - i hope to unify different methods that are used now into one versatile and more powerful method. Currently virtually all grobs are aligned relative to their parent

Re: GUB error with unpure-pure-container.cc

2013-03-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 06:22:57PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: > /home/gub/gub/target/darwin-ppc/src/lilypond-git.sv.gnu.org--lilypond.git-release-unstable/lily/unpure-pure-container.cc:140: > error: initializing argument 2 of 'void > scm_set_smob_apply(scm_t_bits, scm_unused_struct* (*)(...), unsi

Re: Suggested patch to make midiMaximumVolume take effect without initial dynamic

2013-03-10 Thread James
Hello, On 10 March 2013 21:58, Anders Pilegaard wrote: > On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 3:12 PM, James wrote: > >> >> You'll likely get (more) reviews and comments if you use our normal >> process, see: >> >> >> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/contributor-big-page.html#uploading-a-patch-fo

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >> So, to resume, I agree that a freeze is important. When the freeze >> kicks in, I'd rather that we say something like "no new big projects >> starting on date X will be part of 2.18" so that developers can plan >> out their next few months accordingly. > > +1 Actually,

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 6:32 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > Ok folks, it is this time of the year again: I am trying to make myself > unpopular. > > I want to see 2.18 soon. That means we need to stabilize work that > has already been done and cut down on experiments in the master branch. I agr

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >> I just put out the announcement because I feel we should now stop >> accumulating stuff that will require half a year to reach a stable >> state. We need to focus on dealing with what we have in the queue >> right now rather than heaving new things into master that will

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 10 March 2013 22:05, David Kastrup wrote: > > (snip) > > If a refined interface can defuse these cases as well, it would > certainly seem like a good step to take. Thank you for this wise message. > Well, the question is always the balance between gain and pain. Where > the pain is not an im

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I just put out the announcement because I feel we should now stop > accumulating stuff that will require half a year to reach a stable > state. We need to focus on dealing with what we have in the queue > right now rather than heaving new things into master that will be > beneficial to end user

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >> So, to resume, I agree that a freeze is important. When the freeze >> kicks in, I'd rather that we say something like "no new big projects >> starting on date X will be part of 2.18" so that developers can plan >> out their next few months accordingly. > > +1 Well, "ne

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread David Kastrup
Xavier Scheuer writes: > On 10 March 2013 20:56, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> I think there have been two issues crystallized out from it. >> >> a) \bar "|:" and \bar ":|" are a frequent cause for surprise, and the >>return value one gets for dealing with that surprise, a direct way >>for

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> So, to resume, I agree that a freeze is important. When the freeze > kicks in, I'd rather that we say something like "no new big projects > starting on date X will be part of 2.18" so that developers can plan > out their next few months accordingly. +1 Werner ___

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 10 March 2013 20:56, David Kastrup wrote: > > I think there have been two issues crystallized out from it. > > a) \bar "|:" and \bar ":|" are a frequent cause for surprise, and the >return value one gets for dealing with that surprise, a direct way >for specifying the desired look for t

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread David Kastrup
m...@mikesolomon.org writes: > On 10 mars 2013, at 18:54, David Kastrup wrote: > >> "m...@mikesolomon.org" writes: >> >>> On 10 mars 2013, at 18:32, David Kastrup wrote: >>> >>> Ok folks, it is this time of the year again: I am trying to make >>> myself >>> unpopular. >>> >>> There's a

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 10.03.2013 20:56, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl writes: Am 10.03.2013 18:32, schrieb David Kastrup: Ok folks, it is this time of the year again: I am trying to make myself unpopular. [...] So I want to see 2.18 soon. That means we need to stabilize work that has already been done and

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread David Kastrup
Marc Hohl writes: > Am 10.03.2013 18:32, schrieb David Kastrup: >> Ok folks, it is this time of the year again: I am trying to make myself >> unpopular. >> >> [...] >> >> So I want to see 2.18 soon. That means we need to stabilize work that >> has already been done and cut down on experiments in

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread mike
On 10 mars 2013, at 18:54, David Kastrup wrote: > "m...@mikesolomon.org" writes: > >> On 10 mars 2013, at 18:32, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> Ok folks, it is this time of the year again: I am trying to make >> myself >> unpopular. >> >> There's a time of the year for that? >> >> It a

GUB error with unpure-pure-container.cc

2013-03-10 Thread Phil Holmes
I accidentally mucked up some of my GUB set up, so have been essentially rebuilding from scratch. In doing so, I get this error: /home/gub/gub/target/darwin-ppc/src/lilypond-git.sv.gnu.org--lilypond.git-release-unstable/lily/unpure-pure-container.cc:140: error: initializing argument 2 of 'vo

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 10.03.2013 18:32, schrieb David Kastrup: Ok folks, it is this time of the year again: I am trying to make myself unpopular. [...] So I want to see 2.18 soon. That means we need to stabilize work that has already been done and cut down on experiments in the master branch. Stabilizing means

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread David Kastrup
"m...@mikesolomon.org" writes: > On 10 mars 2013, at 18:32, David Kastrup wrote: > > Ok folks, it is this time of the year again: I am trying to make > myself > unpopular. > > There's a time of the year for that? > > It also means that commits of the "this really does nothing, bu

Re: Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 10 mars 2013, at 18:32, David Kastrup wrote: > > Ok folks, it is this time of the year again: I am trying to make myself > unpopular. There's a time of the year for that? > It also means that commits of the "this really does nothing, but it > prepares the ground for $xxx, and I don't know j

Freezing for 2.18

2013-03-10 Thread David Kastrup
Ok folks, it is this time of the year again: I am trying to make myself unpopular. 2.16 is growing old. Now you might go "Huh?", but here are salient points: a) \override/\revert syntax is increasingly becoming an issue on the mailing list. There are also related commands that are affected.

Re: Suggested patch to make midiMaximumVolume take effect without initial dynamic

2013-03-10 Thread James
Anders On 9 March 2013 19:57, Anders Pilegaard wrote: > Hello all. > > This is getting a bit long, so here's a brief overview of what's in > this mail: > > - I'm proposing a patch ... > Thanks for that. You'll likely get (more) reviews and comments if you use our normal process, see: http://

Re: Alternative pixel-based regtest checker

2013-03-10 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Julien Rioux" To: "LilyPond Devel" Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 12:50 AM Subject: Re: Alternative pixel-based regtest checker On 01/03/2013 2:15 PM, Phil Holmes wrote: 4 files attached. To try this out: create a new directory and place NoTagline.ly in it

Re: Back on board

2013-03-10 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Ian Hulin" To: Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 3:38 PM Subject: Back on board Hi all, This is just to let you know I'm finally back home working from my desktop machine after a long break without access to an Internet connection. I'm just catching up with

Re: Staging broken - fails make doc

2013-03-10 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude
Le 10/03/2013 08:00, David Kastrup disait : David Kastrup writes: Removed that commit from staging. It should be fixed in the translation branch. I mean: it is currently broken in the translation branch and should get fixed in the translation branch before trying the merge again. Now fix

Re: [translations] Re: Merging translation and new \relative

2013-03-10 Thread David Kastrup
Jean-Charles Malahieude writes: > Le 09/03/2013 18:03, David Kastrup disait : >> Jean-Charles Malahieude writes: >> >>> Hi David, >>> >>> What would be more appropriate to have >>> master->translation->staging ? >>> >>> Before applying tracker 3229, between 3229 and 3231, or after 3231? >> >> [.

Re: build: missing explicit dependency?

2013-03-10 Thread Federico Bruni
Il 10/03/2013 01:44, Julien Rioux ha scritto: Yes, CG does lists metapost. But this peckage was not auto-installed as a dependency from other previous packages. I agree that this looks like something that the configure script should have caught. Thanks for reporting it, we should open an issue