Re: new bar-lines / issue 1320

2012-06-04 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 05.06.2012 08:29, schrieb Marc Hohl: Hi all, Am 03.06.2012 22:58, schrieb Thomas Morley: Hi, together with Marc Hohl I was working on Issue 1320 for a couple of weeks. Now we have a first working version using a new approach to design BarLines: Only simple BarLines are predefined e.g "|"

Re: new bar-lines / issue 1320

2012-06-04 Thread Marc Hohl
Hi all, Am 03.06.2012 22:58, schrieb Thomas Morley: Hi, together with Marc Hohl I was working on Issue 1320 for a couple of weeks. Now we have a first working version using a new approach to design BarLines: Only simple BarLines are predefined e.g "|" "." ":" etc (plus some exceptions). Some

Re: generalizing offsets to properties

2012-06-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi all, On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 7:50 PM, David Nalesnik wrote: > After working with \shape (which offsets 'control-points), I've been > tinkering with the idea of generalizing offsets to LilyPond's defaults. > I've attached a sketch of a function which attempts to do this, and I show > it in opera

Re: new bar-lines / issue 1320

2012-06-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > My recommendation: just pick something you like and run with it. > Right now this is in the "sour spot" of bikeshedding.  We should > either have a formal discussion (which waits until GLISS), or just > get something done by you picking arbi

Re: GUB error

2012-06-04 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude
Le 03/06/2012 16:28, Phil Holmes disait : I'm trying to build GUB again. This has partly been affected by my attempt to follow the minor build process a while ago, and getting my git stash in an inconsistent state. However, think that's now OK, but I get this: If I look in the lilypond.log file,

generalizing offsets to properties

2012-06-04 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi, After working with \shape (which offsets 'control-points), I've been tinkering with the idea of generalizing offsets to LilyPond's defaults. (Urs Liska brought this up here: http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg71495.html.) I've attached a sketch of a function which attempts

Re: Document <> and improve other simultanous music documentation. (issue 6248080)

2012-06-04 Thread dak
On 2012/06/04 16:00:14, Graham Percival wrote: Exactly. I have no clue why (I never learned grammar), but either of those options are how I'd expect to read it. Or maybe change it to ", but any attempts". That sounds like the best option grammatically, but it lends an absolute flavor to a st

Re: Document <> and improve other simultanous music documentation. (issue 6248080)

2012-06-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 11:39:05AM -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi David (et al.), > > > Well, we have two separate complete sentences, and joined with a comma > > the reader is easily confused into reading "attempts" as a verb, even > > though admittedly it would be singular and thus not a co

Re: Document <> and improve other simultanous music documentation. (issue 6248080)

2012-06-04 Thread dak
On 2012/06/04 15:39:10, kieren_macmillan_sympatico.ca wrote: Hi David (et al.), >> should be a comma here, not a semicolon. > > Well, we have two separate complete sentences, and joined with a comma > the reader is easily confused into reading "attempts" as a verb, even > though admittedly

Re: Document <> and improve other simultanous music documentation. (issue 6248080)

2012-06-04 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David (et al.), >> should be a comma here, not a semicolon. > > Well, we have two separate complete sentences, and joined with a comma > the reader is easily confused into reading "attempts" as a verb, even > though admittedly it would be singular and thus not a complete match to > "the simult

Re: new bar-lines / issue 1320

2012-06-04 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 04.06.2012 17:13, schrieb Graham Percival: On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 05:01:44PM +0200, Marc Hohl wrote: Am 04.06.2012 13:21, schrieb Janek Warchoł: How about ! then? It actually has both | and . in it, and it _is_ a sentence ending punctuation. I missed something; why not keep . for the thic

Re: Document <> and improve other simultanous music documentation. (issue 6248080)

2012-06-04 Thread dak
We'll likely take months to get the documentation connected with this delicate issue into a state where it would empower the gentle reader to make an educated choice himself. http://codereview.appspot.com/6248080/diff/23001/Documentation/notation/simultaneous.itely File Documentation/notation/si

Re: new bar-lines / issue 1320

2012-06-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 05:01:44PM +0200, Marc Hohl wrote: > Am 04.06.2012 13:21, schrieb Janek Warchoł: > >>How about ! then? It actually has both | and . in it, and it _is_ a > >>sentence ending punctuation. I missed something; why not keep . for the thick one? as in the current "|." ? > "="

Re: new bar-lines / issue 1320

2012-06-04 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 04.06.2012 13:21, schrieb Janek Warchoł: On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 10:55 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Werner LEMBERG writes: Uh, oh, please not a letter. I almost always use seriffed fonts, and it looks rather strange. What slightly longer but easy to remember symbolics? || Please no. Let

Re: Document <> and improve other simultanous music documentation. (issue 6248080)

2012-06-04 Thread graham
LGTM, pending a serious discussion of this stuff in GLISS. http://codereview.appspot.com/6248080/diff/23001/Documentation/notation/simultaneous.itely File Documentation/notation/simultaneous.itely (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/6248080/diff/23001/Documentation/notation/simultaneous.itel

Issue 2580: duplicate entry in bar-glyph-alist (issue 6279045)

2012-06-04 Thread graham
LGTM http://codereview.appspot.com/6279045/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: cyclic dependency for slurred notes with articulations

2012-06-04 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
On 4 juin 2012, at 15:22, Graham Percival wrote: > On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 06:58:23AM +0200, m...@mikesolomon.org wrote: >> Question regarding programming errors of this ilk - if a programming error >> shows up only in current master w/ optimizing disabled (meaning it'd never >> show up in a rel

Re: cyclic dependency for slurred notes with articulations

2012-06-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 06:58:23AM +0200, m...@mikesolomon.org wrote: > Question regarding programming errors of this ilk - if a programming error > shows up only in current master w/ optimizing disabled (meaning it'd never > show up in a release where optimizing is enabled), how should we flag i

Re: GUB on recent Ubuntu release

2012-06-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 12:56:58PM +0100, Colin Hall wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 11:15:33AM +0100, Colin Hall wrote: > > > > I'm attempting GUB on 64-bit VM runing Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS > > Build failed on odcctools that sounds normal, see lilypond-devel list of previous failures. (wit

Re: GUB on recent Ubuntu release

2012-06-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 11:15:34AM +0100, Colin Hall wrote: > > I'm attempting GUB on 64-bit VM runing Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS > > Progress so far attached. Advice welcome. sorry, one-handed typing while eating. see gub README for list of requirements. much less than lilypond build requirement

Re: GUB on recent Ubuntu release

2012-06-04 Thread Colin Hall
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 11:15:33AM +0100, Colin Hall wrote: > > I'm attempting GUB on 64-bit VM runing Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS Build failed on odcctools with a claim that they require 32-bit libraries. I'll look into this further when time permits. Cheers, Colin. -- Colin Hall

Patchy email

2012-06-04 Thread lilypond-auto
11:23:19 (UTC) Begin LilyPond compile, previous commit at ce1d0e01ebe3cec6f50902394d5d7226bc516a68 11:23:22 Merged staging, now at:3d3ce70b38cf37274abb8d226c8a41f30b83462a 11:23:22Success:./autogen.sh --noconfigure 11:23:34Success:..

Patchy email

2012-06-04 Thread lilypond-auto
11:23:19 (UTC) Begin LilyPond compile, previous commit at ce1d0e01ebe3cec6f50902394d5d7226bc516a68 11:23:22 Merged staging, now at:3d3ce70b38cf37274abb8d226c8a41f30b83462a 11:23:22Success:./autogen.sh --noconfigure 11:23:34Success:..

Patchy email

2012-06-04 Thread lilypond-auto
11:23:19 (UTC) Begin LilyPond compile, previous commit at ce1d0e01ebe3cec6f50902394d5d7226bc516a68 11:23:22 Merged staging, now at:3d3ce70b38cf37274abb8d226c8a41f30b83462a 11:23:22Success:./autogen.sh --noconfigure 11:23:34Success:..

Re: new bar-lines / issue 1320

2012-06-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 10:55 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > Werner LEMBERG writes: >> Uh, oh, please not a letter.  I almost always use seriffed fonts, and >> it looks rather strange.  What slightly longer but easy to remember >> symbolics? >> >>   || Please no. Let's keep this one-lettered. (other

Re: new bar-lines / issue 1320

2012-06-04 Thread Thomas Morley
2012/6/4 Werner LEMBERG : >>> Uh, oh, please not a letter.  I almost always use seriffed fonts, and >>> it looks rather strange.  What slightly longer but easy to remember >>> symbolics? >>> >>>   | >>> >>>   || >> >> How about ! then?  It actually has both | and . in it, and it _is_ a >> sentence

Re: GUB on recent Ubuntu release

2012-06-04 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Colin Hall" To: "Lilypond Dev" Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 11:15 AM Subject: GUB on recent Ubuntu release I'm attempting GUB on 64-bit VM runing Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS Progress so far attached. Advice welcome. Cheers, Colin -- Colin Hall I tried on

Re: Document <> and improve other simultanous music documentation. (issue 6248080)

2012-06-04 Thread dak
On 2012/06/04 04:10:55, Keith wrote: lgtm http://codereview.appspot.com/6248080/diff/23001/Documentation/notation/simultaneous.itely File Documentation/notation/simultaneous.itely (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/6248080/diff/23001/Documentation/notation/simultaneous.itely#newcode94

Re: new bar-lines / issue 1320

2012-06-04 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Uh, oh, please not a letter. I almost always use seriffed fonts, and >> it looks rather strange. What slightly longer but easy to remember >> symbolics? >> >> | >> >> || > > How about ! then? It actually has both | and . in it, and it _is_ a > sentence ending punctuation. > >> || |: >

Re: new bar-lines / issue 1320

2012-06-04 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >>> Frankly, it always confuses me when i have to code a thick line >>> using "." - it's very unintuitive. What about changing this to >>> some other character? Maybe uppercase i? It looks "thicker" - >>> unless you use a sans-serif font... >> >> +1 >> >> I thought abou

Re: new bar-lines / issue 1320

2012-06-04 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Frankly, it always confuses me when i have to code a thick line >> using "." - it's very unintuitive. What about changing this to >> some other character? Maybe uppercase i? It looks "thicker" - >> unless you use a sans-serif font... > > +1 > > I thought about uppercase I, too. "|I" looks n

Re: new bar-lines / issue 1320

2012-06-04 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 04.06.2012 09:14, schrieb Janek Warchoł: Hi, On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Thomas Morley wrote: together with Marc Hohl I was working on Issue 1320 for a couple of weeks. Now we have a first working version using a new approach to design BarLines: wow! Looks very impressive! Please

Re: new bar-lines / issue 1320

2012-06-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Thomas Morley wrote: > > together with Marc Hohl I was working on Issue 1320 for a couple of weeks. > Now we have a first working version using a new approach to design BarLines: wow! Looks very impressive! > Please note, there was need to change some glyph