Re: translations

2009-11-26 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 01:06:15AM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: >> Le jeudi 26 novembre 2009 à 23:40 +, Graham Percival a écrit : >> > Dunno. Believe me, I never put anything in the translations. >> >> According to git history, you did :-) > > I modified files to

Re: translations

2009-11-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 01:06:15AM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: > Le jeudi 26 novembre 2009 à 23:40 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > > Make sure that the texi2html is being called with the right > > arguments. I think the relevant command is in make/doc-i8n-*. > > Sure, but after my hacking tex

Re: translations

2009-11-26 Thread John Mandereau
Le jeudi 26 novembre 2009 à 23:40 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > Make sure that the texi2html is being called with the right > arguments. I think the relevant command is in make/doc-i8n-*. Sure, but after my hacking texi2html currently dies at manuals in English. I'm about to remove the code

Re: [frogs] Frog's Lament

2009-11-26 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 11:12:26PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >> We are not talking about explaining concepts to potential contributors >> in private. We are talking about explanations happening on the >> developer list. Those can be skimmed off into documentation, wi

Re: translations

2009-11-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 12:21:35AM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: > Ooops, no, I still get index_xx.html filenames for splitted translated > manuals. In the process on solving this, I'm currently trying to make > extract_texi_filenames work (making systematic trailing spaces removal), Make sure tha

Re: translations

2009-11-26 Thread John Mandereau
Le mercredi 25 novembre 2009 à 22:07 +, Graham Percival a écrit : > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 09:33:50PM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: > > Jan already translate a few sentences in several nodes in French and > > Dutch, and while splitted HTML translated docs used to be written as > > index_xx.html

Re: [frogs] Frog's Lament

2009-11-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 11:12:26PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > We are not talking about explaining concepts to potential contributors > in private. We are talking about explanations happening on the > developer list. Those can be skimmed off into documentation, without > requiring all too much

Re: Difficulties with `make check'

2009-11-26 Thread Michael Welsh Duggan
Valentin Villenave writes: > On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 3:21 AM, Patrick McCarty wrote: >> Well then, I think we should open a new issue.  :-) > > There you go : code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=908 > > (http:// is so passé...) On the other hand, the http:// is what allows my mail reade

Re: [frogs] Frog's Lament

2009-11-26 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > And I would ask new contributors to see the whole story from the > point of view of somebody who spent years and year programming > lilypond, explaining concepts to potential contributors only to > have them disappear without writing any code or doc patches, and > who ha

Re: [frogs] Frog's Lament

2009-11-26 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote: >> Then, I miss some general information of the future goals. Ok, the bugs >> should be >> eliminated, but rumor says that there are efforts to move functionality >> from c++ to scheme. >> Is this true? > > As far as I know, the goal to move fu

Re: [frogs] Frog's Lament

2009-11-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:56:05AM +0100, Marc Hohl wrote: > Well documented code is crucial in such a project for other > developers to jump on the train, so learning by RTF code isn't > fun (as mentioned elsewhere) - for me, it's annoying, it's > frustrating, and it keeps me persistently feeling

Re: Fixing spelling errors in documentation

2009-11-26 Thread Leonardo Herrera
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote: > John, > > It's been brought to my attention that we are using an incorrect spelling > for "ukulele".  We've been using (at least in part of our documentation) > "ukelele". > > I've done a git grep for ukelele, and found the misspelling existi

Re: [frogs] Frog's Lament

2009-11-26 Thread David Kastrup
"Trevor Daniels" writes: > More comments would be an improvement, but I think too > many will destroy the flow of the code when it is being > read by more experienced developers. I would recommend > a brief overview at the top which sets out the purpose, > structure and method of the code. Comm

Re: Numbered musical notation (Jianpu)

2009-11-26 Thread Silas S . Brown
Continuing the thread from June http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2009-06/msg00167.html : The reason why my code behaved badly is that the comment in the TeX "% so -E'd eps is at least that high" has a space before the % sign. That space causes extra space to be put into the jianpu

Re: [frogs] Frog's Lament

2009-11-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Thursday, November 26, 2009 4:31 PM On 11/26/09 2:56 AM, "Marc Hohl" wrote: Well documented code is crucial in such a project for other developers to jump on the train, so learning by RTF code isn't fun (as mentioned elsewhere) - for me, it's annoying, it's frustrating

Re: [frogs] Frog's Lament

2009-11-26 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen writes: > 2) I think that it always takes developers less time to answer > questions than to write the patch that you will produce. I definitely disagree with "always". I am an old-school Unix wizard myself, and there are situations when I am administering, say, an Ubuntu system,

Re: Make define-builtin-markup{,-list}-command #:category #:properties keywords (issue160048)

2009-11-26 Thread dak
On 2009/11/26 09:13:58, nicolas.sceaux wrote: Hi, Maybe this patch, as a first step, should focus on the unification of the syntax of the two macros? Hi Nicolas, patch set 3 already makes make-builtin-markup-command upwards-compatible with make-markup-command in its current form. I have

Re: [frogs] Frog's Lament

2009-11-26 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 11/26/09 2:56 AM, "Marc Hohl" wrote: > Hello all, > > I followed the (partly very emotional) discussions about > (un)documentated code > with great interest, and aside from the fact that I neither have the > technical > arguments nor the knowledge, I mostly agree with David Kastrup. > > A

Re: What's the deal with the module system?

2009-11-26 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: > Neil Puttock writes: > >> 2009/11/24 David Kastrup : >> >>> After applying http://codereview.appspot.com/160048> first, >>> indeed the following diff that throws out all the toplevel scoping >>> constructs and separate definitions of define-markup-command and >>> define-m

Implementing Baroque Lute tablature

2009-11-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
I am considering trying to implement a first attempt at providing a Baroque lute tab facility. This may turn out to be a bite too large for me, but hey, that's the way to learn. The first phase would be to implement a minimal set of facilities which would output something like Baroque tab in the

Re: [frogs] Frog's Lament

2009-11-26 Thread Marc Hohl
Sorry, some Germanism found its way into the mail, sed "s/documentated/documented/g" ;-) Marc Marc Hohl schrieb: Hello all, I followed the (partly very emotional) discussions about (un)documentated code with great interest, and aside from the fact that I neither have the technical argumen

Frog's Lament

2009-11-26 Thread Marc Hohl
Hello all, I followed the (partly very emotional) discussions about (un)documentated code with great interest, and aside from the fact that I neither have the technical arguments nor the knowledge, I mostly agree with David Kastrup. As a frog, I feel supported very well from Carl et al., but

Re: Difficulties with `make check'

2009-11-26 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 3:21 AM, Patrick McCarty wrote: > Well then, I think we should open a new issue.  :-) There you go : code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=908 (http:// is so passé...) Cheers, Valentin ___ lilypond-devel mailing list li

Re: What's the deal with the module system?

2009-11-26 Thread David Kastrup
Neil Puttock writes: > 2009/11/24 David Kastrup : > >> After applying http://codereview.appspot.com/160048> first, >> indeed the following diff that throws out all the toplevel scoping >> constructs and separate definitions of define-markup-command and >> define-markup-list-command passes the reg

Re: Make define-builtin-markup{,-list}-command #:category #:properties keywords (issue160048)

2009-11-26 Thread nicolas . sceaux
Hi, Maybe this patch, as a first step, should focus on the unification of the syntax of the two macros? (define-markup-command (command-name layout props . arguments) arguments-signature #:properties property-bindings #:allow-other-keys #:rest body) on the user side and: (define-builti