Re: compile.itely placement

2009-03-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:49:48PM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: > Graham Percival a écrit : >> I'm not clear about this, either. Actually, if anything >> introduction.itely is going to die entirely (as part of the >> web-gop stuff). >> > All right. I can't work on GOP in the 4 coming weeks: I

systems-per-page

2009-03-13 Thread Joe Neeman
I have a (largish, sorry) code review up for new min-systems-per-page, max- systems-per-page and systems-per-page variables in the paper block: http://codereview.appspot.com/28041 Also, the code is in the dev/jneeman git branch, if anyone wants to test. Joe ___

Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-13 Thread David Kastrup
Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 8:50 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > >> It is a bit disappointing since the info documentation with images is >> essential for really getting moving smoothly with Lilypond, and the >> procedure for producing them is so broken or obfuscate that none,

Re: Debugging/showing internal stuff?

2009-03-13 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Le 13 mars 09 à 18:36, Ian Hulin a écrit : Hi Nicolas, So how do you do interactive debugging if you're trying to write (or modify) Scheme code for Lilypond. I'd be interested to know as an apprentice Frog. you can try that: -foo.ly- #(module-define! (resolve-module '(guile-user)

Re: Debugging/showing internal stuff?

2009-03-13 Thread Ian Hulin
Hi Nicolas, Nicolas Sceaux wrote: Le 10 mars 09 à 10:22, David Kastrup a écrit : As some sort of progress, '#{ \notemode { c e g } #} puts out (let ((parser-clone (ly:parser-clone parser))) (parse-string-result " \\notemode { c e g } " parser-clone)) but since parser is #f, without quot

Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-13 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 8:50 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > It is a bit disappointing since the info documentation with images is > essential for really getting moving smoothly with Lilypond, and the > procedure for producing them is so broken or obfuscate that none, I > repeat none of _any_ lilypond

Re: Debugging/showing internal stuff?

2009-03-13 Thread Carl Sorensen
Nicolas Sceaux free.fr> writes: > > - test.ly - > #(display (current-module)) > #(top-repl) > --- > > ==> > > # > guile> (current-module) > # > guile> > > So after invoking (top-repl), we are not the same module as the one > used in the input file. That's why `parser'

Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-13 Thread David Kastrup
John Mandereau writes: > David Kastrup a écrit : >> I don't think that is standard usage. install-info would be the norm >> when available. >> > Will fix this, but see below my request. > > make install bombs out, anyway: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/tm

Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-13 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > > It might be nice if some developers made it into a habit to try > > building from a freshly checked out tree from time to time without > > reverting to their secret knowledge. > > Is it really necessary to get nasty? Like I said in another

Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-13 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, John Mandereau wrote: > > It might be nice if some developers made it into a habit to try > > building from a freshly checked out tree from time to time without > > reverting to their secret knowledge. > > I spent a lot of time testing compilation and installation of In

Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-13 Thread John Mandereau
David Kastrup a écrit : I don't think that is standard usage. install-info would be the norm when available. Will fix this, but see below my request. make install bombs out, anyway: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/tmp/lilypond/stepmake/bin/install.py", line 78, in s

Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-13 Thread David Kastrup
Cameron Horsburgh writes: > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:50:23PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> make && sudo make install > >> >> does not work. > > These work fine for me. They don't make much in the way of > documentation (which is a good thing, AFAIAC), but these two commands > install

Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-13 Thread Cameron Horsburgh
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:50:23PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > > make && sudo make install > > does not work. These work fine for me. They don't make much in the way of documentation (which is a good thing, AFAIAC), but these two commands install lilypond for me perfectly well from whatev

Re: [GUB3] How should Guile and Flex be built?

2009-03-13 Thread John Mandereau
Jan Nieuwenhuizen a écrit : Op donderdag 12-03-2009 om 10:43 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef John Mandereau: I compiled Python 2.6.1 and installed it in my home, setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /home/lilydev. So, does that help? Not at all: I set PLATFORMS=linux-64 to avoid choking on od

Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-13 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op vrijdag 13-03-2009 om 09:50 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef John Mandereau: Hi John, > ..and input/lsr too. I added toplevel info and intall-info target. Great. > This is already what is done, except that the relative symlink from > prefix/share/info was wrong ;-) Ah, oh. I see that we now

Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-13 Thread David Kastrup
"Carl D. Sorensen" writes: > On 3/13/09 4:51 AM, "David Kastrup" wrote: >> >> It might be nice if some developers made it into a habit to try >> building from a freshly checked out tree from time to time without >> reverting to their secret knowledge. > > Is it really necessary to get nasty? I

Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-13 Thread David Kastrup
John Mandereau writes: > David Kastrup a écrit : >> John Mandereau writes: >> >>> ..and input/lsr too. I added toplevel info and intall-info target. >>> >> No, you didn't. > Oops, I meant info-install. I don't think that is standard usage. install-info would be the norm when available

Re: compile.itely placement

2009-03-13 Thread John Mandereau
Graham Percival a écrit : I'm not clear about this, either. Actually, if anything introduction.itely is going to die entirely (as part of the web-gop stuff). All right. I can't work on GOP in the 4 coming weeks: I must work on translaed documentation compilation by translating node names in

Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-13 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 3/13/09 4:51 AM, "David Kastrup" wrote: > > It might be nice if some developers made it into a habit to try building > from a freshly checked out tree from time to time without reverting to > their secret knowledge. Is it really necessary to get nasty? Carl > > -- > David Kastrup > >

Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-13 Thread John Mandereau
David Kastrup a écrit : John Mandereau writes: ..and input/lsr too. I added toplevel info and intall-info target. No, you didn't. Oops, I meant info-install. At least a freshly fetched lilypond copy has only (according to bash programmable completion) the targets install-help2m

Re: compile.itely placement

2009-03-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 10:56:40AM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: > Trevor Daniels a écrit : >> Re your recent commits: >> >> shouldn't compile.itely and introduction.itely be in /devel rather >> than /user? > I don't understand why you suggest to place introduction.itely in devel/. I'm not clear

Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-13 Thread David Kastrup
John Mandereau writes: > Jan Nieuwenhuizen a écrit : >> Good points, everything should be fixed. Improvements could be >> >> * add toplevel info and install-info targets that redirect to >> Documentation/user >> > ..and input/lsr too. I added toplevel info and intall-info target. No, you

Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-13 Thread Cameron Horsburgh
0;241;0cOn Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 09:48:41AM +0100, John Mandereau wrote: > > "make web-install" is the recommended one by Application Usage, section > Building documentation. I just added "make info-install", as suggested > by Jan. Ah, this is good. For some reason I don't quite understand I l

Re: compile.itely placement

2009-03-13 Thread John Mandereau
Trevor Daniels a écrit : Re your recent commits: shouldn't compile.itely and introduction.itely be in /devel rather than /user? I don't understand why you suggest to place introduction.itely in devel/. As for compile.itely, it's easier to put it in user/, because compilation of Texinfo docs i

compile.itely placement

2009-03-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
John Re your recent commits: shouldn't compile.itely and introduction.itely be in /devel rather than /user? Trevor ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-13 Thread John Mandereau
John Mandereau a écrit : *WWW* targets must be called with out=www; these targets are purposely undocumented and not listed in "make help" because they are reserved for internal use or hacking. BTW we probably should enclose all WWW targets in ifeq($(out),www) blocks. Any thoughts on this before

Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-13 Thread John Mandereau
Jan Nieuwenhuizen a écrit : Good points, everything should be fixed. Improvements could be * add toplevel info and install-info targets that redirect to Documentation/user ..and input/lsr too. I added toplevel info and intall-info target. * make info with images automagically (

Re: Why is it _still_ so freaking hard to get info with images?

2009-03-13 Thread John Mandereau
2009/3/9 David Kastrup : make prefix=/usr/local/lilypond install-info-WWW make --no-builtin-rules -C Documentation/user install-info make[1]: Entering directory `/lisa/lilypond/Documentation/user' export LILYPOND_DATADIR= export PYTHONPATH=/lisa/lilypond/python/out:../../python/auxiliar:/lisa/li

Re: Clarifying and requests for documentation

2009-03-13 Thread John Mandereau
Hello Yoshiki, Sawada a écrit : Do you mean that you will make node names and section titles translated only by manual (that is, they are translated in the source files, but not by the po file)? Yes, that's it. If it is correct, I want new commands as following rather than it: @rinternalsn